1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:06,873 --> 00:00:08,541 -[footsteps] -[producer] Come on in. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:08,608 --> 00:00:10,243 -Here he comes. -[man] Cool. 5 00:00:14,381 --> 00:00:15,515 [producer] You good, Mario? 6 00:00:15,582 --> 00:00:16,983 -[man 2] Good. -[producer] All right? 7 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:18,318 -You good? -Yeah. 8 00:00:21,921 --> 00:00:24,657 [producer] Okay, Ant, do you know the story of the Dream Team 9 00:00:24,724 --> 00:00:25,992 and the first select team? 10 00:00:26,059 --> 00:00:27,227 -Mm-mm. -No? 11 00:00:27,293 --> 00:00:29,496 Supposedly there was one game the Dream Team lost. 12 00:00:29,562 --> 00:00:31,598 Who was on it? Michael Jordan? 13 00:00:31,664 --> 00:00:33,666 -[producer] Jordan, Bird, Magic. -Magic. 14 00:00:33,733 --> 00:00:34,934 Oh, my God. 15 00:00:35,001 --> 00:00:36,569 -David Robinson. -And they lost? 16 00:00:36,636 --> 00:00:39,906 -Barkley. Karl Malone. -Karl Malone, yeah. 17 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:41,841 -Stockton. -Stockton. 18 00:00:42,475 --> 00:00:43,676 Yeah. 19 00:00:44,377 --> 00:00:45,412 It happens. 20 00:00:45,812 --> 00:00:47,514 Yeah, it happens. 21 00:00:47,580 --> 00:00:48,815 [chuckles] 22 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:51,217 -[helicopter blades whirring] -[siren wailing] 23 00:00:51,284 --> 00:00:53,620 [dramatic music playing] 24 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:58,525 [reporter] There was some big NBA news during the week. 25 00:00:58,591 --> 00:01:01,194 The International Basketball Federation voted to allow 26 00:01:01,261 --> 00:01:03,129 professional basketball players to compete 27 00:01:03,196 --> 00:01:05,865 in future Olympic Games and World Championships. 28 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:14,641 That means that NBA players will be eligible to compete 29 00:01:14,707 --> 00:01:16,276 in Barcelona, Spain. 30 00:01:20,413 --> 00:01:21,714 [reporter 2] This is a necessity 31 00:01:21,781 --> 00:01:23,349 to bring basketball to its peak, 32 00:01:24,117 --> 00:01:26,786 and will boost, ultimately, basketball 33 00:01:26,853 --> 00:01:28,288 as a sport worldwide. 34 00:01:31,891 --> 00:01:33,793 [people cheering] 35 00:01:33,860 --> 00:01:35,829 [Costas] America's collegians have a rich history 36 00:01:35,895 --> 00:01:37,197 in world competition, 37 00:01:37,263 --> 00:01:38,765 and with professionals now in the picture, 38 00:01:38,832 --> 00:01:41,201 it looks like the start of a promising new era. 39 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:43,670 [dramatic music continues] 40 00:01:44,370 --> 00:01:46,473 [muffled yelling] 41 00:01:46,539 --> 00:01:47,607 [whistle blows] 42 00:01:48,374 --> 00:01:51,711 [man] It kept building and building and building. 43 00:01:53,546 --> 00:01:55,315 They're gonna win by 60. 44 00:01:55,381 --> 00:01:56,783 [crowd roars] 45 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:59,119 [crowd fades out] 46 00:01:59,185 --> 00:02:01,554 [man 2] They've been called the greatest basketball team 47 00:02:01,621 --> 00:02:03,690 ever created, 48 00:02:03,756 --> 00:02:06,025 but if you think the Dream Team was unbeatable, 49 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:08,795 have I got a story for you. 50 00:02:09,662 --> 00:02:12,265 [players chattering in video] 51 00:02:14,634 --> 00:02:15,835 [man 2] There they are. 52 00:02:17,203 --> 00:02:18,304 Michael. 53 00:02:18,872 --> 00:02:19,939 Patrick Ewing. 54 00:02:20,006 --> 00:02:21,141 Magic. 55 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:24,944 And me. 56 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:30,016 That was June 24th, 1992. 57 00:02:30,850 --> 00:02:32,385 That was the day 58 00:02:32,452 --> 00:02:33,853 we beat the Dream Team. 59 00:02:34,254 --> 00:02:35,655 [dramatic music continues] 60 00:02:35,722 --> 00:02:37,290 [sound of ball dribbling] 61 00:02:37,357 --> 00:02:40,426 [sneakers squeaking on court] 62 00:02:45,098 --> 00:02:47,267 [dramatic music builds] 63 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:48,568 [music softens] 64 00:02:50,603 --> 00:02:51,638 [dramatic chord plays] 65 00:02:51,704 --> 00:02:52,906 [music fades] 66 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:55,975 [intriguing music playing] 67 00:03:00,813 --> 00:03:03,750 [Hill] It's July 7th, 2024. 68 00:03:05,251 --> 00:03:08,254 And I'm in Las Vegas for USA Basketball training camp. 69 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:15,395 A few years ago, 70 00:03:15,461 --> 00:03:18,631 I was named managing director for the US Men's National Team. 71 00:03:18,698 --> 00:03:20,300 [player] Gold on three. One, two, three. 72 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:22,569 -[all] Gold. -Next group. Next group. 73 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:26,306 [player 2] Book! Knock down, Book! Knock down, Book! 74 00:03:26,372 --> 00:03:28,675 [Hill] Now it's my job to recruit, select, 75 00:03:28,741 --> 00:03:31,411 and develop our team for the Olympics. 76 00:03:31,477 --> 00:03:32,612 [player 3] Change! Change! 77 00:03:32,679 --> 00:03:34,614 [overlapping chatter] 78 00:03:34,681 --> 00:03:36,249 Stack, Book! Stack! 79 00:03:36,316 --> 00:03:37,850 [Hill] Thirty-three years ago... 80 00:03:37,917 --> 00:03:39,152 -[whistle blows] -Come on now. 81 00:03:39,652 --> 00:03:42,021 [Hill] ...when I was just 19 years old... 82 00:03:42,088 --> 00:03:43,823 [player yells] 83 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:46,292 [Hill] ...me and a group of other college All-Americans 84 00:03:46,359 --> 00:03:48,161 were recruited to practice against 85 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:50,230 the one and only Dream Team. 86 00:03:50,296 --> 00:03:51,931 [announcer] This group may well be 87 00:03:51,998 --> 00:03:55,435 the greatest team ever assembled 88 00:03:55,501 --> 00:03:58,104 in the history of team sports. 89 00:03:59,739 --> 00:04:02,508 [Hill] That year was the first time NBA players 90 00:04:02,575 --> 00:04:04,811 were allowed to play in the Olympics. 91 00:04:05,345 --> 00:04:07,180 [Ahmad Rashad] Let me ask both of y'all this. 92 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:08,615 With all these stars on the team, 93 00:04:08,681 --> 00:04:10,883 if it comes down to the last shot, 94 00:04:10,950 --> 00:04:12,085 who's gonna take the shot? 95 00:04:12,151 --> 00:04:13,286 -Me. -Me. 96 00:04:14,454 --> 00:04:16,656 -[both chuckle] -[Rashad laughing] 97 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:19,225 [Hill] And it was our job to get them ready. 98 00:04:21,728 --> 00:04:22,795 I'm not sure why, 99 00:04:22,862 --> 00:04:24,931 but they called us the select team. 100 00:04:25,698 --> 00:04:29,836 I guess we were "selected" to get our asses kicked. 101 00:04:29,902 --> 00:04:32,538 The thing was, we had other ideas. 102 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:40,346 Before we get started, you guys, you know, without a doubt, 103 00:04:40,413 --> 00:04:43,283 play such a huge role in our preparation. 104 00:04:43,349 --> 00:04:46,586 But at the end of the day, it comes down to just hooping. 105 00:04:46,653 --> 00:04:48,221 You guys have all seen these guys, 106 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:50,056 you guys have all played against them. 107 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:52,659 And so, you know, there's no fear there. 108 00:04:52,725 --> 00:04:55,261 And as Steve Kerr said yesterday, like, 109 00:04:55,328 --> 00:04:57,196 we want you to kick their ass. 110 00:04:57,263 --> 00:04:58,364 All right? 111 00:04:58,431 --> 00:05:00,266 -[indistinct chatter] -[Hill] All right. 112 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:02,969 -Select on three. 1, 2, 3. -[all] Select. 113 00:05:03,036 --> 00:05:06,072 [Beethoven's Eroica Symphony playing] 114 00:05:10,476 --> 00:05:11,978 [players chattering] 115 00:05:15,181 --> 00:05:16,949 [indistinct chatter] 116 00:05:20,453 --> 00:05:21,521 [music ends] 117 00:05:21,587 --> 00:05:23,189 [Hill] As I watched the young select team 118 00:05:23,256 --> 00:05:24,824 scrimmage our Olympic team, 119 00:05:25,825 --> 00:05:28,061 memories of my game against the Dream Team 120 00:05:28,127 --> 00:05:29,595 come flooding back. 121 00:05:30,930 --> 00:05:32,532 Now three decades later, 122 00:05:33,132 --> 00:05:35,268 that game has become infamous. 123 00:05:35,768 --> 00:05:39,005 The stories, the trash talk, the controversy. 124 00:05:39,806 --> 00:05:42,175 I feel like now's the time to tell it all, 125 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:45,678 tell people what really happened that day 126 00:05:45,745 --> 00:05:47,213 in the summer of '92. 127 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:49,582 [dramatic string music playing] 128 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:50,917 [Hill] By the mid-1980s, 129 00:05:50,983 --> 00:05:53,986 the idea of a Dream Team was already in the air. 130 00:05:54,053 --> 00:05:56,823 [announcer] The US has its ninth gold medal. 131 00:05:56,889 --> 00:05:58,324 [Hill] Remember, the United States 132 00:05:58,391 --> 00:06:00,326 was still sending college players 133 00:06:00,393 --> 00:06:01,461 to compete in the Olympics. 134 00:06:01,527 --> 00:06:03,196 [announcer 2] Nice block by Sabonis. 135 00:06:03,262 --> 00:06:06,065 [Hill] But then, 1988 happened. 136 00:06:06,132 --> 00:06:09,035 [announcer 3] And here's the frosting for the USSR. 137 00:06:09,102 --> 00:06:13,639 -They win it, 82-76. -[crowd cheering] 138 00:06:13,706 --> 00:06:17,443 United States goes home with a semifinal loss 139 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:21,147 to the bigger, more experienced USSR team. 140 00:06:21,914 --> 00:06:24,884 [Hill] That summer, the USA didn't win the gold. 141 00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:26,386 Not even silver. 142 00:06:26,452 --> 00:06:28,321 We got the freakin' bronze. 143 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:31,758 And before you knew it, the announcement was made. 144 00:06:31,824 --> 00:06:34,060 [news anchor] There was some big NBA news during the week. 145 00:06:34,127 --> 00:06:36,462 FIBA, the International Basketball Federation, 146 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:39,265 voted Friday to allow professional basketball players 147 00:06:39,332 --> 00:06:41,167 to compete in future Olympic Games 148 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:42,402 and World Championships. 149 00:06:43,202 --> 00:06:45,471 [Costas] Join us now as we name the Dream Team, 150 00:06:45,538 --> 00:06:48,574 the United States team for Barcelona in '92. 151 00:06:50,443 --> 00:06:52,779 Over the next hour, we'll unveil the ten players 152 00:06:52,845 --> 00:06:55,848 who will represent America in the 1992 Olympics. 153 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:59,018 [Hill] The team they picked was a who's who of the NBA, 154 00:06:59,085 --> 00:07:04,490 headlined by Magic, Bird, Barkley, and Jordan. 155 00:07:05,057 --> 00:07:07,960 Oh yeah, and they took one college player. 156 00:07:08,928 --> 00:07:10,196 You might remember him. 157 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:12,732 [announcer] There's the pass to Laettner. 158 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:14,500 -Puts it up. -[buzzer sounds] 159 00:07:14,567 --> 00:07:15,668 [cheering] 160 00:07:15,735 --> 00:07:17,737 [Hill] The Dream Team needed a strong leader 161 00:07:17,804 --> 00:07:20,273 and found one in head coach Chuck Daly, 162 00:07:20,339 --> 00:07:23,643 the legendary coach of the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons. 163 00:07:25,144 --> 00:07:26,279 And from the start, 164 00:07:26,345 --> 00:07:29,916 the expectations placed on Chuck were massive. 165 00:07:29,982 --> 00:07:31,617 [Costas] Chuck, the United States has lost 166 00:07:31,684 --> 00:07:33,820 in the last five major international competitions: 167 00:07:33,886 --> 00:07:36,222 '88 Olympics, '90 World Championships, 168 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:37,623 '91 Goodwill Games, 169 00:07:37,690 --> 00:07:39,258 last two Pan Am Games. 170 00:07:39,325 --> 00:07:41,928 It's pretty clear you've got to not only bring back the gold, 171 00:07:41,994 --> 00:07:43,796 but do it in emphatic fashion. 172 00:07:45,498 --> 00:07:49,368 [announcer] Vlade Divac, Zdovc, Drazen Petrovic. 173 00:07:49,435 --> 00:07:51,604 [speaking foreign language] 174 00:07:51,671 --> 00:07:53,172 [Hill] The style of play and rules 175 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:56,509 of international basketball are different from the NBA, 176 00:07:56,576 --> 00:07:59,512 so Chuck wanted his guys to practice against players 177 00:07:59,579 --> 00:08:01,981 who matched what they'd face in the Olympics. 178 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:04,817 Like they say, iron sharpens iron, 179 00:08:04,884 --> 00:08:08,054 but to me, it felt like we were sacrificial lambs 180 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,622 being led to slaughter. 181 00:08:10,389 --> 00:08:11,324 [music concludes] 182 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:13,159 [sea birds calling] 183 00:08:13,226 --> 00:08:15,061 [Hill] The Dream Team was starting training camp 184 00:08:15,127 --> 00:08:17,196 in beautiful La Jolla, California. 185 00:08:17,263 --> 00:08:18,931 So in June of '92, 186 00:08:18,998 --> 00:08:22,301 me and seven other of the best college players in the country 187 00:08:22,368 --> 00:08:24,704 packed our bags and headed out to Cali. 188 00:08:24,770 --> 00:08:26,172 [intense music playing] 189 00:08:27,006 --> 00:08:28,875 [Hill] It was Chris Webber from Michigan. 190 00:08:28,941 --> 00:08:30,977 -[announcer] Webber again! -[announcer 2] Yes! 191 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:36,883 [Hill] My teammate Bobby Hurley from Duke. 192 00:08:36,949 --> 00:08:39,352 [announcer 3] Steal, Hurley. 193 00:08:39,418 --> 00:08:40,753 [crowd cheers] 194 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:42,889 [announcer 3] They will break your heart. 195 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:46,492 [announcer 4] A 26-4 run for the Wildcats. 196 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,528 [Hill] Jamal Mashburn from Kentucky. 197 00:08:48,594 --> 00:08:50,863 [announcer 4] Mashburn with a layup. 198 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:54,800 This is a withering display of basketball talent. 199 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:57,069 [Hill] Big Rodney Rogers from Wake Forest. 200 00:08:57,136 --> 00:08:58,804 [announcer 5] ...right underneath. 201 00:08:58,871 --> 00:09:01,407 The big man right there, Rogers pops it from inside. 202 00:09:01,474 --> 00:09:04,443 [crowd cheering] 203 00:09:06,112 --> 00:09:08,214 [Hill] Eric Montross from Carolina. 204 00:09:08,281 --> 00:09:10,016 [announcer 6] Montross pummels and scores, 205 00:09:10,082 --> 00:09:12,218 and he'll shoot one. 206 00:09:12,285 --> 00:09:14,387 [Hill] Allan Houston from Tennessee. 207 00:09:14,921 --> 00:09:16,489 [announcer 7] Houston on the drive, 208 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:18,858 stops, throws it up, got it! 209 00:09:18,925 --> 00:09:21,060 [crowd cheering] 210 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:23,029 [Hill] Penny Hardaway from Memphis. 211 00:09:23,095 --> 00:09:25,631 [announcer 8] Anfernee Hardaway going in with the cradle 212 00:09:25,698 --> 00:09:28,034 and the layup over the defender. 213 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:29,769 There is evidence of the brilliance 214 00:09:29,835 --> 00:09:31,170 of Anfernee Hardaway. 215 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:33,673 [announcer 9] Duke can take the lead, and Hill does it. 216 00:09:33,739 --> 00:09:35,241 [Hill] And yours truly. 217 00:09:39,345 --> 00:09:42,114 [producer] Okay, Grant, you say you beat the Dream Team, 218 00:09:42,181 --> 00:09:43,916 but did that really happen? 219 00:09:44,717 --> 00:09:46,552 The thing that's interesting is like, 220 00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:47,887 no one's really believed us. 221 00:09:47,954 --> 00:09:50,022 Like, you-- it's like one of those things that... 222 00:09:50,089 --> 00:09:52,992 It's something that happens, and then you tell people, 223 00:09:53,059 --> 00:09:56,262 and people are looking at you like, "Yeah, right." You know? 224 00:09:56,329 --> 00:09:58,931 And over 30 years later, um, 225 00:09:58,998 --> 00:10:00,433 I think it's... 226 00:10:00,499 --> 00:10:03,603 I'm-I'm-I'm more in awe now, 227 00:10:03,669 --> 00:10:05,571 I think, than I was at the time. 228 00:10:05,638 --> 00:10:08,207 [gentle woodwind music playing] 229 00:10:10,209 --> 00:10:13,946 [producer] Okay, Chris, take us back to 1992. 230 00:10:14,013 --> 00:10:15,147 [whistles softly] 231 00:10:15,214 --> 00:10:17,617 I just... Wow. 232 00:10:18,217 --> 00:10:20,119 [chuckles] 1992. 233 00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:24,256 [The Thieving Magpie by Rossini playing] 234 00:10:24,824 --> 00:10:27,326 We individually flew from our different colleges 235 00:10:27,393 --> 00:10:28,828 or wherever we were located 236 00:10:28,894 --> 00:10:30,296 into La Jolla, San Diego. 237 00:10:30,930 --> 00:10:33,065 I just remember getting off the plane. 238 00:10:33,132 --> 00:10:35,968 I saw a sign with my name, and I walked to the car, 239 00:10:36,035 --> 00:10:38,704 and Larry Bird's sitting in there. 240 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:40,539 And I'm like... 241 00:10:41,173 --> 00:10:42,441 "Hell nah." 242 00:10:42,508 --> 00:10:43,776 [announcer] Right corner, Bird. 243 00:10:43,843 --> 00:10:45,578 Backs in, posted up, Bird. 244 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:47,213 Takes the jumper and hits it. 245 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:49,582 In high school, we always used to watch this video of him 246 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:50,816 playing against Atlanta. 247 00:10:50,883 --> 00:10:52,585 [announcer] Got it again, a three-pointer. 248 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:53,953 [Webber] My teammates, 249 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:55,755 we always used to watch it and be like, 250 00:10:55,821 --> 00:10:58,290 "You can never do what these teammates in Atlanta do." 251 00:10:58,357 --> 00:10:59,825 [announcer] They want him to keep scoring. 252 00:10:59,892 --> 00:11:01,894 [Webber] They're giving each other fives with Larry Bird, 253 00:11:01,961 --> 00:11:04,330 looking at spots on the floor. That's Larry Legend. 254 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:05,598 [announcer] There's Bird. 255 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:08,100 Bird, 14 seconds, he got fouled. 256 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:09,535 He hit the shot! 257 00:11:09,602 --> 00:11:11,270 Bird has 60 points. 258 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:12,838 [Webber] Larry Bird was a bad man. 259 00:11:12,905 --> 00:11:14,740 [announcer] Look at the Boston players mob him. 260 00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:16,742 I walked to the car and I'm like, "Damn, 261 00:11:16,809 --> 00:11:18,010 nice to meet you, brother." 262 00:11:18,077 --> 00:11:19,845 He's like, "Hey, nice to meet you." 263 00:11:19,912 --> 00:11:21,247 You know, and it was just quiet. 264 00:11:21,313 --> 00:11:23,149 I'm starstruck. 265 00:11:23,215 --> 00:11:25,317 [The Thieving Magpie continues] 266 00:11:25,384 --> 00:11:27,753 [car engine humming] 267 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:30,189 [Webber] And then we get out, and he's like... 268 00:11:30,256 --> 00:11:31,791 "Yeah, you better get some sleep 269 00:11:31,857 --> 00:11:33,793 'cause we gon' bust your ass tomorrow." 270 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:36,228 And in my mind, I'm conflicted. 271 00:11:36,295 --> 00:11:38,898 I'm like, "Yeah, he's talking-- he's talking shit to me." 272 00:11:38,964 --> 00:11:41,901 And then, you know, I'm like, "Quit being starstruck. 273 00:11:41,967 --> 00:11:43,436 Come on, now." And I was like, 274 00:11:43,502 --> 00:11:45,104 "Man, your back already messed up. 275 00:11:45,171 --> 00:11:46,472 You get some sleep." 276 00:11:47,073 --> 00:11:48,974 And I just tiptoe off. Like, oh. 277 00:11:49,041 --> 00:11:51,544 Call my pops like, "Dad." [chuckles] 278 00:11:51,610 --> 00:11:54,180 "I was just talking junk to Larry Bird, man." [laughs] 279 00:11:54,246 --> 00:11:56,882 "It's going great." [laughs] 280 00:11:58,617 --> 00:12:01,253 -Any problems at the airport? -No. 281 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,725 [Mashburn] We were staying at a Marriott 282 00:12:05,791 --> 00:12:07,727 in La Jolla, San Diego. Big Marriott. 283 00:12:07,793 --> 00:12:08,994 [receptionist] Hi, Mr. Jordan. 284 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:10,696 [Mashburn] I remember pulling in, 285 00:12:10,763 --> 00:12:12,264 getting out of the van, 286 00:12:12,331 --> 00:12:15,968 and they escorted me to a check-in desk. 287 00:12:17,336 --> 00:12:18,904 [Mashburn] They gave us our keys. 288 00:12:21,107 --> 00:12:22,608 And I remember me and Chris Webber 289 00:12:22,675 --> 00:12:24,710 walking down a hallway, 290 00:12:24,777 --> 00:12:26,645 and this figure, tall... 291 00:12:26,712 --> 00:12:29,648 I'm like, "Chris, that's Larry Bird coming toward us." 292 00:12:29,715 --> 00:12:32,251 And first impression was, 293 00:12:32,818 --> 00:12:36,355 damn, I didn't really realize how tall Larry Bird is. 294 00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:39,225 [playful orchestral music playing] 295 00:12:39,859 --> 00:12:43,129 [Mashburn] And Larry Bird approaches us, and Larry goes, 296 00:12:43,195 --> 00:12:44,830 "Are you guys the college-- 297 00:12:44,897 --> 00:12:46,232 part of that college select team?" 298 00:12:46,298 --> 00:12:48,734 And we say, "Yeah, Mr. Bird." 299 00:12:48,801 --> 00:12:50,402 He goes, "Oh. 300 00:12:50,836 --> 00:12:53,038 Get some fucking rest. It's gonna be a long week." 301 00:12:53,472 --> 00:12:54,707 And walked off. 302 00:12:57,209 --> 00:13:00,045 It was almost like a pretty girl insulting you, 303 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:01,614 but you take it as a compliment. 304 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:02,915 [chuckles] You know? 305 00:13:03,482 --> 00:13:06,652 Larry was the type that would talk to you going down the hall 306 00:13:06,719 --> 00:13:08,921 as if he just didn't get in the car with you and ride. 307 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:10,356 You know? That's how they were, 308 00:13:10,422 --> 00:13:12,191 and it was cool 'cause that's how we were. 309 00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:14,193 I mean, those are the moments that made it 310 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:15,795 that much more special. 311 00:13:15,861 --> 00:13:17,163 [pensive string music playing] 312 00:13:18,030 --> 00:13:19,732 [Hill] Man, it was crazy. 313 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,867 We were 19 and 20-year-olds hanging out 314 00:13:21,934 --> 00:13:23,702 in Southern California, 315 00:13:23,769 --> 00:13:26,405 getting ready to play against our idols. 316 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:28,941 Shit, we were on cloud nine. 317 00:13:30,376 --> 00:13:32,478 [Houston] I think the cool part was, like, 318 00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:34,847 just trying to really enjoy the moment. 319 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:37,583 [indistinct chatter] 320 00:13:40,352 --> 00:13:43,756 You knew you were about to do something that was historic. 321 00:13:43,823 --> 00:13:45,958 You gotta understand the basketball fan I was. 322 00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:48,994 My wall was plastered with all of these guys. 323 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:52,698 This was a chance to be around all my heroes. 324 00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:54,233 [man] How you doing, sir? 325 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:55,768 -Fine, how are you? -Good. 326 00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:57,369 [Hardaway] When I first got to the hotel, 327 00:13:57,436 --> 00:14:00,206 I was like talking to myself saying, "Act like you belong. 328 00:14:00,272 --> 00:14:02,408 Don't be in shock and don't be a fanboy. 329 00:14:02,474 --> 00:14:05,077 Don't just go crazy." 'Cause I saw Michael, 330 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:08,280 you know, I saw the Admiral, I saw all these guys... 331 00:14:08,347 --> 00:14:10,416 I'm like, "Wow, man, this is phenomenal 332 00:14:10,482 --> 00:14:12,151 that I'm gonna even be in the same presence 333 00:14:12,218 --> 00:14:15,020 as these-- these legends." 334 00:14:15,087 --> 00:14:16,822 [announcer] Charles looks like he's determined 335 00:14:16,889 --> 00:14:18,657 to take over this game. 336 00:14:18,724 --> 00:14:21,360 [Webber] You have to remember the state of basketball. 337 00:14:21,427 --> 00:14:23,229 At this time, there weren't trades in the league 338 00:14:23,295 --> 00:14:24,496 like there are now, 339 00:14:24,563 --> 00:14:27,366 and so you would never see Magic play with a Celtic. 340 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:28,834 Are you kidding me? 341 00:14:28,901 --> 00:14:31,203 That's the same as, like, superhero movies now, 342 00:14:31,270 --> 00:14:33,405 how kids take for granted that Batman and Superman 343 00:14:33,472 --> 00:14:34,473 are in the same movie. 344 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:38,077 [dramatic string music playing] 345 00:14:38,143 --> 00:14:39,245 [Webber] And Jordan... 346 00:14:39,311 --> 00:14:41,013 I don't think I can explain to the world 347 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,082 how big Michael Jordan was. 348 00:14:43,148 --> 00:14:46,318 [announcer] Oh! A spectacular move 349 00:14:46,385 --> 00:14:48,187 by Michael Jordan! 350 00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:49,655 [Webber] Those songs from... 351 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:51,023 ♪ Sometimes I feel he is-- ♪ 352 00:14:51,090 --> 00:14:52,524 Like, that is that. The shoes. 353 00:14:52,591 --> 00:14:55,361 And before he was this cultural icon, he was our icon, 354 00:14:55,427 --> 00:14:58,664 wearing the double chains and the rock the cradle, 355 00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:00,366 rocking, dunking the basketball. 356 00:15:00,432 --> 00:15:02,334 Like, seeing him on the court. 357 00:15:02,401 --> 00:15:04,770 [crowd cheering] 358 00:15:04,837 --> 00:15:06,705 There was no Instagram behind the scenes 359 00:15:06,772 --> 00:15:08,274 with a player in the locker room. 360 00:15:08,340 --> 00:15:10,276 We were privy to something at the time 361 00:15:10,342 --> 00:15:11,877 that no one in the world was. 362 00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:15,381 So we're just kind of taking it all in, 363 00:15:15,447 --> 00:15:17,917 like, man, can you believe this? Like, we're here. 364 00:15:17,983 --> 00:15:21,053 I remember going over to the gym 365 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,822 and putting on our USA Basketball gear, 366 00:15:23,889 --> 00:15:25,357 and they gave us swag, 367 00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:27,259 which wasn't really called swag back then, 368 00:15:27,326 --> 00:15:29,194 but, "Oh man, this is cool. 369 00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:31,730 Like, I got this, you know, USA Basketball stuff. 370 00:15:31,797 --> 00:15:33,432 Like, no one has this." 371 00:15:34,566 --> 00:15:36,869 [Hurley] We had one practice, I think, the day before 372 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,270 we scrimmaged the Dream Team. 373 00:15:38,337 --> 00:15:41,240 So, able to get up and down a little bit with our team. 374 00:15:41,307 --> 00:15:42,975 We were kind of familiar with each other 375 00:15:43,042 --> 00:15:45,377 just through the high school ranks 376 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:47,146 and all the games we might have played 377 00:15:47,212 --> 00:15:48,881 against each other in college. 378 00:15:49,648 --> 00:15:51,684 [announcer] ...a dominant inside player, Chris Webber. 379 00:15:51,750 --> 00:15:53,085 [Webber] I was 19 years old, 380 00:15:53,152 --> 00:15:55,254 in between my freshman and sophomore year. 381 00:15:55,321 --> 00:15:58,657 I had just gone to the NCAA finals, 382 00:15:58,724 --> 00:16:01,560 playing against Hurley and Grant Hill, 383 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:04,163 and so I was coming off of the highest of highs 384 00:16:04,229 --> 00:16:05,664 and the lowest of lows. 385 00:16:05,731 --> 00:16:07,833 [announcer] The Duke of Destiny has won it. 386 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:09,501 For the first time in two decades, 387 00:16:09,568 --> 00:16:12,037 college basketball has a repeat champion. 388 00:16:12,104 --> 00:16:14,173 [Webber] And I just wanted more basketball, 389 00:16:14,239 --> 00:16:16,542 because I lost my last college game. 390 00:16:18,444 --> 00:16:22,348 C-Webb is a funny, authentic, 391 00:16:22,414 --> 00:16:24,316 cool off the court... 392 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:27,286 on the court, man-child. 393 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:30,322 Some of the greatest hands that I've ever seen. 394 00:16:30,856 --> 00:16:34,159 To have a guy, 6'10", be able to run and jump like him 395 00:16:34,226 --> 00:16:36,829 and rebound, and also be able to catch the ball 396 00:16:36,895 --> 00:16:39,298 -with those soft hands... -[announcer] Webber underneath. 397 00:16:39,365 --> 00:16:41,266 [Mashburn] ...made him invaluable. 398 00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:43,335 [dramatic orchestral music playing] 399 00:16:43,402 --> 00:16:45,137 [players chattering] 400 00:16:46,038 --> 00:16:47,773 [Houston] Grant and I had known each other, 401 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,908 been friends way before, and, um, 402 00:16:49,975 --> 00:16:51,610 so athletic, 403 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:53,379 the skill and talent and athletic, 404 00:16:53,445 --> 00:16:54,480 like this combination. 405 00:16:54,546 --> 00:16:56,815 And he just kind of could do things. 406 00:16:56,882 --> 00:16:59,218 [announcer 1] Oh! Can you believe he got that high? 407 00:16:59,284 --> 00:17:00,552 [announcer 2] Incredible! 408 00:17:00,619 --> 00:17:04,957 He just like-- Man, God just sprinkled something on him. 409 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:10,162 Bobby Hurley, I mean, we had played two years together. 410 00:17:10,229 --> 00:17:12,664 He was as good as any point guard, 411 00:17:12,731 --> 00:17:15,834 shooting the ball, dribble penetration, defending. 412 00:17:15,901 --> 00:17:17,669 But, you know, Bobby's from Jersey City, 413 00:17:17,736 --> 00:17:20,773 and so Bobby was fearless, 414 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:22,307 and as a little guy, 415 00:17:22,374 --> 00:17:23,842 never backed down. 416 00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:25,911 [crowd cheering] 417 00:17:25,978 --> 00:17:28,647 Penny was, like, so good, so gifted, 418 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:31,216 so, uh, so graceful out there, 419 00:17:31,283 --> 00:17:33,252 just so athletic, 420 00:17:33,318 --> 00:17:34,720 great vision. 421 00:17:35,988 --> 00:17:37,489 [announcer 1] Hardaway scores. 422 00:17:37,556 --> 00:17:38,957 [announcer 2] Great concentration. 423 00:17:39,024 --> 00:17:40,292 He was the total package. 424 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,328 We felt like myself and Bobby could handle any guards. 425 00:17:43,395 --> 00:17:45,864 We felt like Rodney Rogers was an unbelievable weapon, 426 00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:48,167 and Allan Houston could shoot it as good as anyone. 427 00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:51,103 Eric Montross, our defensive big, 428 00:17:51,170 --> 00:17:52,404 wasn't scared to mix it up. 429 00:17:52,471 --> 00:17:55,307 And Jamal Mashburn was as smooth as they came. 430 00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:58,310 Whoever put that team together did a phenomenal job 431 00:17:58,377 --> 00:17:59,812 putting us together because 432 00:17:59,878 --> 00:18:00,913 we could play. 433 00:18:02,081 --> 00:18:03,982 [dramatic music playing] 434 00:18:04,049 --> 00:18:05,818 [sneakers squeaking on court] 435 00:18:16,361 --> 00:18:18,931 [man] In the Olympics, at that time, 436 00:18:18,997 --> 00:18:20,566 remember, we're making a transition 437 00:18:20,632 --> 00:18:22,734 from college to pro, 438 00:18:22,801 --> 00:18:25,637 so everyone felt that the select team should be 439 00:18:25,704 --> 00:18:28,807 a collection of the best college players. 440 00:18:29,374 --> 00:18:32,444 These were guys who were going to be lottery picks 441 00:18:32,511 --> 00:18:35,481 in either the next draft or the draft after that. 442 00:18:36,148 --> 00:18:37,749 [indistinct chatter] 443 00:18:37,816 --> 00:18:39,485 [Krzyzewski] And remember, 444 00:18:39,551 --> 00:18:42,588 if there weren't pro players playing at that time, 445 00:18:42,654 --> 00:18:46,425 that select team would have been our Olympic team. 446 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,294 [whistle blows] 447 00:18:50,062 --> 00:18:51,730 I was disappointed that the pros went. 448 00:18:52,498 --> 00:18:55,033 Taking Michael Jordan and all those guys, 449 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:59,037 I can see why people want to see them rather than college kids. 450 00:18:59,104 --> 00:19:02,207 But for the guys that played on that college select team, 451 00:19:02,274 --> 00:19:04,776 that was our dream to play in the Olympics. 452 00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:09,848 I was upset, uh, because I wanted a gold medal. 453 00:19:09,915 --> 00:19:11,483 [coach] All right, now the only other one, 454 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:12,951 let's just say here... 455 00:19:13,018 --> 00:19:15,521 [Hill] So there was this internal conflict, you know, 456 00:19:15,587 --> 00:19:17,122 because on one hand, 457 00:19:17,189 --> 00:19:19,791 there was a real sort of excitement. 458 00:19:19,858 --> 00:19:22,828 "Oh man, you got Magic and Bird and Barkley," 459 00:19:22,895 --> 00:19:24,496 and, you know, all these guys. 460 00:19:24,563 --> 00:19:28,200 But then, on the flip side, you're thinking, you know, 461 00:19:28,267 --> 00:19:31,336 "Man, like, these guys, you know, took our opportunity." 462 00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:34,206 ...your head, where it's gotta be back here or over here. 463 00:19:34,273 --> 00:19:36,475 [Mashburn] We understood the business part of it, 464 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:37,910 but we were still a little bit... 465 00:19:37,976 --> 00:19:40,646 had a bit of a chip on our shoulders, especially me. 466 00:19:40,712 --> 00:19:43,282 [players yelling, chattering] 467 00:19:47,553 --> 00:19:51,390 [Rogers speaking] 468 00:19:52,257 --> 00:19:55,394 We got to go out here, play as hard as we can. 469 00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:57,629 We ain't coming out here just to say, 470 00:19:57,696 --> 00:19:59,565 "We played against the Dream Team." 471 00:20:02,501 --> 00:20:04,703 [tense music playing] 472 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:08,574 [Krzyzewski] The guys on the Dream Team 473 00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:11,310 understood the history of our game. 474 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:15,047 The game was the most important thing, 475 00:20:15,113 --> 00:20:19,451 and now they had a chance to do it on a world stage. 476 00:20:19,518 --> 00:20:22,254 [players chattering] 477 00:20:22,321 --> 00:20:24,056 [Jordan] Anytime you represent your country, 478 00:20:24,122 --> 00:20:26,158 you know, that's a prideful thing. 479 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,827 I think everybody knew history was being made 480 00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:32,164 and that this was probably the only time ever 481 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,932 that you see these type of players 482 00:20:33,999 --> 00:20:35,400 all together at once. 483 00:20:35,467 --> 00:20:38,003 Eleven Hall of Famers. That's unheard of. 484 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:40,405 [Johnson] You gon' have to sit down before you hurt somebody. 485 00:20:40,472 --> 00:20:42,774 Hear what the captain says? Captain says sit down, 486 00:20:42,841 --> 00:20:44,476 or this boat is gonna sink. 487 00:20:44,543 --> 00:20:47,045 That's right. Have a seat 'cause you're gonna fall, 488 00:20:47,112 --> 00:20:49,414 and then it's gonna be all that's gonna happen. 489 00:20:49,848 --> 00:20:51,216 [Barkley] The first day... 490 00:20:52,117 --> 00:20:53,518 we went to practice... 491 00:20:54,152 --> 00:20:57,356 there was like hundreds of people standing there. 492 00:20:57,422 --> 00:21:00,392 That was the first time that we realized 493 00:21:00,459 --> 00:21:02,294 how enormous this thing was. 494 00:21:02,361 --> 00:21:03,362 [cheering] 495 00:21:03,428 --> 00:21:05,097 [Jordan] You saw nothing but cameras, 496 00:21:05,163 --> 00:21:07,232 documentation of everything that we did 497 00:21:07,299 --> 00:21:09,034 because of the rarity 498 00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:10,869 of something like that ever happening again. 499 00:21:10,936 --> 00:21:14,373 [fan with camera] So I come to see the team every day. 500 00:21:14,439 --> 00:21:15,807 [Hurley] I got a taste of it. 501 00:21:15,874 --> 00:21:17,542 Our bus arrived, we got off, 502 00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:20,279 we were entering the gym, the Dream Team bus arrived, 503 00:21:20,345 --> 00:21:22,281 and there were people going nuts. 504 00:21:22,347 --> 00:21:23,682 [mellow music playing] 505 00:21:23,749 --> 00:21:25,350 [crowd cheering] 506 00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:27,619 [Bird] We knew they'll be talking about this forever, 507 00:21:27,686 --> 00:21:29,821 just the way that people perceived us 508 00:21:29,888 --> 00:21:31,223 as being superheroes. 509 00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:35,060 [crowd cheering] 510 00:21:36,528 --> 00:21:38,664 [Bird] But once we started practicing, it got serious 511 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:40,565 because we was there on a mission. 512 00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:42,701 [loud cheering] 513 00:21:47,973 --> 00:21:50,208 [dramatic orchestral music playing] 514 00:21:51,743 --> 00:21:53,612 April, May, June... 515 00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:56,281 [Johnson] That was my first opportunity 516 00:21:56,348 --> 00:21:57,849 to play in the Olympics, 517 00:21:58,417 --> 00:21:59,851 represent my country. 518 00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:01,687 International three-point lines... 519 00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:06,224 And to prove that we could play together, 520 00:22:06,291 --> 00:22:07,793 that we would play together, 521 00:22:07,859 --> 00:22:09,728 and that we would dominate. 522 00:22:10,729 --> 00:22:12,764 [Barkley in 1992] When I sit down at dinner last night, 523 00:22:12,831 --> 00:22:14,566 I just looked around the room 524 00:22:14,633 --> 00:22:16,268 and it was the most incredible thing. 525 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,337 I'm sitting here beside John Stockton, we're talking. 526 00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:21,907 You just look around and you see Magic, Michael, Larry, 527 00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:25,177 Karl, Patrick, David, I mean, Scott. 528 00:22:25,243 --> 00:22:26,912 It was like... I said, "Oh my God. 529 00:22:26,978 --> 00:22:29,181 This is frightening how good this team is." 530 00:22:29,247 --> 00:22:32,150 It's unbelievable. It really is, isn't it? 531 00:22:32,217 --> 00:22:34,052 [laughter] 532 00:22:37,289 --> 00:22:38,757 [man] Chuck Daly was the head coach 533 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,359 because he was winning championships 534 00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:42,094 with the Detroit Pistons. 535 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,162 Could other people have coached that team 536 00:22:44,229 --> 00:22:46,264 and won a gold medal? Without a doubt. 537 00:22:46,331 --> 00:22:50,702 But I don't know that anybody would have gotten the buy-in 538 00:22:50,769 --> 00:22:52,838 with the players as Chuck did it. 539 00:22:53,472 --> 00:22:55,774 [Hill] Chuck had a presence about him. 540 00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,910 He was stylish, even in his sweats. 541 00:22:58,977 --> 00:23:01,380 He had his shirt up, like-- you know, he just had a style. 542 00:23:01,446 --> 00:23:02,948 His hair was right. 543 00:23:03,014 --> 00:23:06,051 Uh, but it was also kind of a mafia boss. 544 00:23:06,118 --> 00:23:09,788 You could see the guys had respect for him. 545 00:23:09,855 --> 00:23:12,791 [lush mandolin concerto playing] 546 00:23:13,925 --> 00:23:15,527 [Webber] I knew everything about Chuck Daly. 547 00:23:15,594 --> 00:23:17,062 You gotta understand, I'm from Detroit 548 00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:18,864 where the Pistons won back-to-back champions. 549 00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:19,998 These were my guys. 550 00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:21,666 So I knew where Chuck Daly bought his suits. 551 00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:22,868 Next time down, 552 00:23:22,934 --> 00:23:25,170 Mahorn, you take Worthy. You take Woolridge. 553 00:23:25,771 --> 00:23:27,739 [Webber] Talk to any player that played for him, 554 00:23:27,806 --> 00:23:30,809 all they do is just rave about what a great man he was. 555 00:23:30,876 --> 00:23:33,845 And so what I think is that there's no other man 556 00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:35,781 that could have coached the Dream Team 557 00:23:35,847 --> 00:23:38,650 because there's no other man that each player respected 558 00:23:38,717 --> 00:23:41,653 like they did Coach Daly because of what he'd proven, 559 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,121 because of his humility, 560 00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:44,756 because of him holding you accountable, 561 00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:46,124 and because he was a cool dude. 562 00:23:46,691 --> 00:23:49,194 Well, I think Chuck is-- has the attitude 563 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:50,862 that he won't let us relax. 564 00:23:50,929 --> 00:23:53,432 We don't want to relax. We don't wanna be overconfident. 565 00:23:53,498 --> 00:23:55,734 We are confident, but we don't want to be overconfident. 566 00:23:56,668 --> 00:23:59,004 [Krzyzewski] I never expected to be an assistant. 567 00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:03,041 Chuck even told me and PJ at our first meeting as coaches, 568 00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:06,411 we had notebooks, and he said, "What are you guys doing?" 569 00:24:06,478 --> 00:24:08,447 I said, "No, we're going to take everything." 570 00:24:08,513 --> 00:24:10,649 And he and Lenny would laugh at me and PJ 571 00:24:10,715 --> 00:24:12,317 because we're these young guys 572 00:24:12,384 --> 00:24:14,653 trying to do a whole bunch of stuff, 573 00:24:14,719 --> 00:24:16,354 and they were the old pros, and just, 574 00:24:16,421 --> 00:24:18,523 "Slow down there, hotshot." 575 00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:20,292 [Carlesimo in 1992] What Chuck is trying to do 576 00:24:20,358 --> 00:24:21,827 is obviously we want to be prepared, 577 00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:24,429 but what we really want to do is not clutter things up either. 578 00:24:24,496 --> 00:24:26,765 We have to allow these guys to showcase their talents. 579 00:24:26,832 --> 00:24:29,267 [in 2024] I remember the first meeting when players came in, 580 00:24:29,334 --> 00:24:30,602 and Chuck spoke to them, 581 00:24:30,669 --> 00:24:34,005 and he just said, "Hey, guys, we're supposed to win. 582 00:24:34,072 --> 00:24:36,308 Everybody thinks we're going to win. 583 00:24:36,374 --> 00:24:37,542 That's expected. 584 00:24:37,609 --> 00:24:39,644 It's not going to be considered a great achievement 585 00:24:39,711 --> 00:24:41,213 if we win the gold medal, 586 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,648 but this is an opportunity for you 587 00:24:43,715 --> 00:24:45,417 to represent the United States 588 00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:48,653 and show people how basketball is supposed to be played." 589 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,755 [somber string music playing] 590 00:24:51,857 --> 00:24:53,191 [Krzyzewski] At the end of the day, 591 00:24:53,258 --> 00:24:56,161 there's a lot of pressure on that head coach. 592 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:58,029 You not only have to win, 593 00:24:58,563 --> 00:25:01,333 you have to win, like, 594 00:25:01,399 --> 00:25:03,401 in-in a grand style. 595 00:25:03,468 --> 00:25:06,137 [reporter speaking] 596 00:25:06,204 --> 00:25:09,674 No, not nervous. You don't know quite what to expect. 597 00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:12,444 [Carlesimo] The expectation is to bring back the gold medal, 598 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,813 and if you do anything other than that, 599 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,649 it's a tremendous failure, if you will. 600 00:25:17,716 --> 00:25:20,051 And if you win, people just shrug their shoulders and say, 601 00:25:20,118 --> 00:25:21,253 "You were supposed to win." 602 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,955 Off the coast of Spain, there are several islands. 603 00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:27,092 There's one, Mallorca, and one, Menorca. 604 00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:30,896 Mallorca is a very swinging place. 605 00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:35,534 Menorca has a lot of caves and a very high suicide rate, 606 00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:39,404 and banishment or exile is a possibility 607 00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:42,340 if you don't come back with the gold. 608 00:25:42,407 --> 00:25:44,342 [Carlesimo] Even though we felt we were gonna win, 609 00:25:44,409 --> 00:25:47,012 whoever is the ultimate guy responsible 610 00:25:47,078 --> 00:25:48,847 is going to feel somewhat nervous. 611 00:25:48,914 --> 00:25:50,549 I mean, that's just the way it is. 612 00:25:50,615 --> 00:25:53,351 [man] I thought that Chuck was excitable. 613 00:25:53,418 --> 00:25:54,486 He was nervous. 614 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,855 I thought he also was a worrywart. 615 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,324 You can prepare and then you're ready, 616 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,893 but he would prepare and then start all over again. 617 00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:04,029 [inaudible dialogue] 618 00:26:04,763 --> 00:26:09,034 Worldwide, people talked about the Dream Team, okay? 619 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,770 He did not want to lose. 620 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:13,972 [inaudible dialogue] 621 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,674 [Wilkens] When you're the head coach, 622 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:19,144 everything comes down on you. 623 00:26:23,882 --> 00:26:25,617 [music fades] 624 00:26:25,684 --> 00:26:27,252 [man] All righty. 625 00:26:29,754 --> 00:26:31,823 All right, fellas, I'm ready for you. 626 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:33,858 I played select team a couple of years ago. 627 00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:34,993 I think it's a mental thing. 628 00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:36,861 It's funny because it's like, I feel like 629 00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:39,064 every USA team plays a select team, 630 00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:41,166 and that first day they hit you in the mouth 631 00:26:41,232 --> 00:26:42,267 because they're like... 632 00:26:42,334 --> 00:26:44,569 They have-- They've got all the confidence. 633 00:26:44,636 --> 00:26:47,038 And they're just like, man, we're going to play hard. 634 00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:48,206 And I think that competition 635 00:26:48,273 --> 00:26:49,941 brings out the best in everybody. 636 00:26:50,342 --> 00:26:52,544 [dramatic choral music playing] 637 00:26:54,579 --> 00:26:58,483 You can't expect Grant to front somebody in this post, 638 00:26:58,984 --> 00:27:00,285 and then it goes over there, 639 00:27:00,352 --> 00:27:01,853 and front somebody over there too... 640 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:06,224 [Mashburn] That first day, before that initial scrimmage, 641 00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:08,426 they took us to another practice facility. 642 00:27:08,927 --> 00:27:11,596 We didn't realize what we were doing 643 00:27:11,663 --> 00:27:13,798 or how we fit into the equation. 644 00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:15,700 [reporter] Did you envision ever getting a chance 645 00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:17,836 to play against these guys this early in your career? 646 00:27:17,902 --> 00:27:20,038 No, not really, and it's something 647 00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:23,008 that when I look at them on TV, see Magic when I was young 648 00:27:23,074 --> 00:27:25,310 and trying to do his thing on the playground. 649 00:27:25,377 --> 00:27:27,278 It'll be something special to go up against him 650 00:27:27,345 --> 00:27:28,513 and show him what I got. 651 00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:30,181 I found out today I might be picking up 652 00:27:30,248 --> 00:27:31,583 Magic a little bit full-court, 653 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:34,519 so, you know, things are just happening for me 654 00:27:34,586 --> 00:27:36,321 that really makes me happy. 655 00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:38,256 [choral music continues] 656 00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:40,992 ...dribble. Let's just say I've got it, you dribble, 657 00:27:41,059 --> 00:27:43,762 Jamal moves over, still there. 658 00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:45,697 All right, now, Grant takes... 659 00:27:45,764 --> 00:27:47,866 [Hill] Roy Williams as our coach. 660 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,802 He was at Kansas then. 661 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:53,571 [Williams speaks indistinctly] 662 00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:55,907 [Williams in 2024] I knew all of those guys. 663 00:27:55,974 --> 00:27:58,143 In this group, Anfernee would be one. 664 00:27:58,209 --> 00:28:00,745 Most of those guys I tried to recruit. [laughs] 665 00:28:00,812 --> 00:28:02,213 Didn't get any of them, but... 666 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,883 Cross 'em passing, and take that away temporarily. 667 00:28:04,949 --> 00:28:09,054 [Hill] And George Raveling was an assistant coach. 668 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,022 At that time, he was at USC. 669 00:28:12,323 --> 00:28:13,625 [Raveling] What our team will do 670 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,727 is try to mirror what the Europeans, 671 00:28:15,794 --> 00:28:19,097 Australians, and Canadians, and so forth are going to do 672 00:28:19,164 --> 00:28:22,734 to try to recreate those type of offensive 673 00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:26,071 and defensive situations that might present problems 674 00:28:26,137 --> 00:28:27,706 for the US Olympic Team. 675 00:28:28,807 --> 00:28:29,741 [grunting] 676 00:28:29,808 --> 00:28:30,942 Barkley, Malone, 677 00:28:31,009 --> 00:28:32,777 a lot of those people taught confidence, 678 00:28:32,844 --> 00:28:34,612 and I listen to that, and I'm going in there 679 00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:35,847 with a lot of confidence. 680 00:28:35,914 --> 00:28:38,149 I'm not going to be intimidated, uh, in any way, 681 00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:39,451 no matter how much they dog me. 682 00:28:39,517 --> 00:28:40,552 [whistle blows] 683 00:28:40,618 --> 00:28:42,754 [Williams speaks indistinctly] 684 00:28:42,821 --> 00:28:44,489 [Mashburn] At some point, they took us 685 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:46,491 where the Dream Team was practicing. 686 00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:48,593 [dramatic music playing] 687 00:28:49,527 --> 00:28:51,029 [Hill] The gym was cleared out. 688 00:28:51,096 --> 00:28:53,331 No reporters, no news crews. 689 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:57,035 Chuck Daly only allowed one camera in. 690 00:28:57,102 --> 00:29:01,239 And to this day, only one tape of the practice exists. 691 00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:04,876 Now it was go time. 692 00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:09,314 I didn't think I could get more nervous 693 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:11,015 than when I walked in the gym. 694 00:29:11,082 --> 00:29:13,618 [Hill] I didn't know what the select team meant, 695 00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:15,720 what the practice was going to look like. 696 00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:19,290 I didn't know if we would be there to, 697 00:29:19,357 --> 00:29:20,792 you know, rebound for them. 698 00:29:20,859 --> 00:29:23,995 [chuckles] If we'd be there to maybe run some sets 699 00:29:24,062 --> 00:29:25,363 on a half court. 700 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:27,499 I don't think I thought we would scrimmage them. 701 00:29:27,565 --> 00:29:31,169 And I remember we go up to the top, 702 00:29:31,236 --> 00:29:34,973 like, this balcony, to look over the practice session... 703 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,808 [dramatic music continues] 704 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:38,109 [Houston] ...the most competitive 705 00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:40,345 practice session you'll ever see. 706 00:29:40,411 --> 00:29:42,480 [sneakers squeaking on court] 707 00:29:43,181 --> 00:29:46,651 [Hurley] It was just like precision basketball. 708 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,588 They were just so sharp. 709 00:29:50,655 --> 00:29:52,490 They looked like they had been together playing 710 00:29:52,557 --> 00:29:53,758 for like ten years. 711 00:29:54,425 --> 00:29:57,495 My anxiety just was elevated in that moment. 712 00:29:57,562 --> 00:29:59,864 [mellow instrumental music playing] 713 00:30:00,498 --> 00:30:03,268 [producer] So, Christian, do you remember at that point 714 00:30:03,334 --> 00:30:06,171 being excited to play against your Duke teammates, 715 00:30:06,237 --> 00:30:07,572 Grant and Bobby? 716 00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:11,609 I don't think it was like high on my radar at all, 717 00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:14,412 because so much was going on at that time. 718 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:18,049 I was trying to graduate from college. 719 00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:20,919 I was making appearances on David Letterman 720 00:30:20,985 --> 00:30:24,055 and Arsenio Hall, and I was winning awards, 721 00:30:24,122 --> 00:30:27,458 and getting on the Dream Team myself. 722 00:30:27,525 --> 00:30:30,195 So it's kind of like, I saw the college kids walk in 723 00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:33,364 and I'm like, "Oh, yeah, we're gonna play against them." 724 00:30:37,302 --> 00:30:39,571 I see Bobby's little white face up there, 725 00:30:39,637 --> 00:30:41,406 and I see Grant's high-top fade. 726 00:30:41,472 --> 00:30:43,141 And I see Eric Montross behind him, 727 00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:44,742 and I'm kind of waving to them like, 728 00:30:44,809 --> 00:30:47,545 "Hey, I'm playing with the Dream Team!" You know? 729 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:49,147 And no one's waving to me, 730 00:30:49,214 --> 00:30:51,015 'cause they don't even care about me, you know? 731 00:30:51,082 --> 00:30:54,786 But they're all looking at their, you know, 732 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,120 people they look up to. 733 00:30:56,187 --> 00:30:58,623 And I'm kind of like, "I should be with you guys." 734 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,091 [chuckles] "But I'm down here." 735 00:31:00,158 --> 00:31:01,793 [up-tempo string music playing] 736 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,661 [Laettner] And the next time down the court, 737 00:31:03,728 --> 00:31:06,965 Barkley drives baseline, and Karl Malone jumps up, 738 00:31:07,031 --> 00:31:09,267 and Charles Barkley just dunked on him so hard. 739 00:31:09,334 --> 00:31:11,769 -[indistinct yelling] -[cameraman chuckles] 740 00:31:11,836 --> 00:31:13,571 And then their faces all changed, like, 741 00:31:13,638 --> 00:31:15,640 "Ooh, now we got to go play against those guys." 742 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:17,175 [string music continues] 743 00:31:19,077 --> 00:31:21,212 [Webber] Just imagine a bunch of big gladiators 744 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,716 with all these swords and just dead lions all on the ground. 745 00:31:24,782 --> 00:31:27,151 And, you know, they're doing flips and laughing 746 00:31:27,218 --> 00:31:28,686 and all of this, and you're up top, 747 00:31:28,753 --> 00:31:30,021 and you know you're next. 748 00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:32,991 [laughs] You know? It's not... It's not that fun. 749 00:31:34,325 --> 00:31:36,327 I've said it many times, you know, 750 00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:38,696 we were the crash test dummies. 751 00:31:38,763 --> 00:31:40,265 We were the ones to get in the car, 752 00:31:40,331 --> 00:31:41,633 put on the seat belt, 753 00:31:41,699 --> 00:31:44,102 and see how hard we could handle the pressure 754 00:31:44,168 --> 00:31:47,005 of running into the wall of a Michael Jordan and others. 755 00:31:47,071 --> 00:31:47,972 [music ends] 756 00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:50,642 [Mashburn] But with that being said, 757 00:31:50,708 --> 00:31:52,043 when you look at pros, 758 00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:54,846 and you just sit there and say, "Well, I want to be a pro. 759 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:58,516 How do I kind of see internally how I perform?" 760 00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:00,285 So it's kind of one of those things where, 761 00:32:00,351 --> 00:32:01,552 yeah, you're nervous, excited, 762 00:32:01,619 --> 00:32:03,321 but you also wanted to prove yourself. 763 00:32:03,388 --> 00:32:05,523 [tense string music playing] 764 00:32:07,292 --> 00:32:08,927 [Webber] So walking down the stairs, like, 765 00:32:08,993 --> 00:32:11,963 I would have been embarrassed to be nervous in front of them. 766 00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:14,299 [footsteps echoing] 767 00:32:14,365 --> 00:32:16,134 [Webber] When I think about the Dream Team 768 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,369 playing in the Olympics and what they did with the world, 769 00:32:18,436 --> 00:32:20,772 you had teams hugging them before they played. 770 00:32:20,838 --> 00:32:24,242 Like, that's-- that's wonderful, but I can't do that. 771 00:32:24,309 --> 00:32:26,210 That's not-- That's not who we are. 772 00:32:27,645 --> 00:32:29,647 [music intensifies] 773 00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:31,683 [Mashburn] It was kind of like, uh, 774 00:32:31,749 --> 00:32:34,118 you know, you're going to be in a practice squad, 775 00:32:34,185 --> 00:32:37,088 and you're talking to college All-Americans 776 00:32:37,155 --> 00:32:38,690 and potential pros. 777 00:32:38,756 --> 00:32:41,159 All eight of us on that team... 778 00:32:41,225 --> 00:32:43,094 we're not practice players. 779 00:32:43,161 --> 00:32:44,862 [intense string music continues] 780 00:32:46,364 --> 00:32:49,033 [Hardaway] We were honored, humbled by the opportunity. 781 00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,936 We were humbled as far as respecting who they were. 782 00:32:52,003 --> 00:32:54,172 But we also wanted to show these guys that we could play. 783 00:32:54,238 --> 00:32:57,575 And we were dumb enough to know that we could win. [laughs] 784 00:32:57,642 --> 00:32:59,310 [string music continues] 785 00:33:01,512 --> 00:33:03,548 [Mashburn] Once I stepped across those lines... 786 00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,985 we equals until you show me something different. 787 00:33:11,823 --> 00:33:14,292 [Webber] I just remember talking to the guys and saying, 788 00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:16,194 "This is our moment. This is our dream. 789 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:18,863 We're playing against... our heroes." 790 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:20,465 Like, it was every single person. 791 00:33:20,531 --> 00:33:21,966 It was Hurley against Stockton. 792 00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:23,835 It was everyone that they said, you know... 793 00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:25,937 Grant checking Jordan. It was every... 794 00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:27,205 You know, Penny against Magic. 795 00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:28,806 It was every-- Me against Barkley. 796 00:33:28,873 --> 00:33:30,708 It was everyone's dream matchup. 797 00:33:31,709 --> 00:33:33,011 That's what I mean about us being 798 00:33:33,077 --> 00:33:35,780 the perfect crash test dummies. We wanted the smoke. 799 00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:38,483 That's what the kids say today. We wanted the smoke. 800 00:33:39,917 --> 00:33:41,786 [somber instrumental music playing] 801 00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:43,154 [Carlesimo] This was the first time 802 00:33:43,221 --> 00:33:44,322 the Dream Team was together. 803 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:46,057 They knew we were gonna be playing against 804 00:33:46,124 --> 00:33:47,692 these very talented college guys 805 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:48,926 in our first scrimmage. 806 00:33:48,993 --> 00:33:50,428 But, I mean, let's be honest, 807 00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:52,730 there's no way you could put together a college team 808 00:33:52,797 --> 00:33:55,533 that would even think about competing with our group. 809 00:33:56,634 --> 00:33:58,269 I guarantee you there was some debate 810 00:33:58,336 --> 00:34:00,271 before this thing started of like, you know, 811 00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:01,939 is this going to be a waste of time 812 00:34:02,006 --> 00:34:03,374 playing against these guys? 813 00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:07,412 [Krzyzewski] The select team, they had a shot 814 00:34:07,478 --> 00:34:11,416 to show everyone, "Hey, I can do this," 815 00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:14,886 where I don't think the Dream Team 816 00:34:14,952 --> 00:34:17,221 looked at it as competitively. 817 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:21,426 [Johnson] We're looking down there at the college players. 818 00:34:21,492 --> 00:34:23,694 And, you know, we're just messing around, 819 00:34:23,761 --> 00:34:25,530 thinking, "Okay, this is the Dream Team. 820 00:34:25,596 --> 00:34:27,465 We gonna blow them guys out." 821 00:34:29,467 --> 00:34:32,603 [Hill] So before we started, we shoot a free throw. 822 00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:35,640 And then they come down and run a set against us. 823 00:34:35,706 --> 00:34:38,743 Things that they walked through just 10, 20 minutes before. 824 00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:41,546 So it might be an up and down and then stop. 825 00:34:42,613 --> 00:34:43,748 [whistle blows] 826 00:34:45,316 --> 00:34:47,952 But as a player, you want to play. 827 00:34:49,554 --> 00:34:51,722 [coach] Go right there. Go. 828 00:34:52,123 --> 00:34:53,124 [whistle blows] 829 00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:57,295 So then when Chuck Daly actually blew the whistle, 830 00:34:57,361 --> 00:34:58,930 it's time to scrimmage, I think everybody, 831 00:34:58,996 --> 00:35:00,498 at least on our side, eyes lit up. 832 00:35:01,132 --> 00:35:02,700 [Houston] Now we get called on the court, 833 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:03,901 and they're all lathered up. 834 00:35:03,968 --> 00:35:05,636 You know, they're all loose and ready. 835 00:35:05,703 --> 00:35:08,039 And it was just like, all right, here we go. 836 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,675 It's just like the best pickup game 837 00:35:10,741 --> 00:35:12,310 you're ever gonna play in in your life. 838 00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:15,313 [Mashburn] We had finally got up and close 839 00:35:15,379 --> 00:35:17,682 to what you were watching on TV. 840 00:35:18,216 --> 00:35:19,550 And it looks different. 841 00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:21,752 They look bigger. 842 00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:23,955 They look faster. 843 00:35:24,655 --> 00:35:26,157 And they look confident. 844 00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:29,494 But we were definitely excited. 845 00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:33,064 Roy Williams said, you know, "Grant, you got Jordan." 846 00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:35,500 And it was like, man, this is a little different than 847 00:35:35,566 --> 00:35:37,502 who I've been guarding back in Durham. 848 00:35:38,402 --> 00:35:40,805 [Williams] I said, "You, you, you, you, and you, let's start. 849 00:35:40,872 --> 00:35:43,407 And you got Jordan, and you got Scottie, and you got..." 850 00:35:43,474 --> 00:35:44,976 And the guys are looking at me like-- 851 00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:47,778 And I said, "Yeah, that's a good sound, isn't it?" 852 00:35:48,279 --> 00:35:51,149 And I said, "Okay, our goal is to help that team 853 00:35:51,215 --> 00:35:52,817 win the gold medal. That's our goal. 854 00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:55,620 But while we're here, let's play our tails off." 855 00:35:55,686 --> 00:35:57,788 [players chattering] 856 00:35:58,456 --> 00:36:01,926 I think... sports 857 00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,362 and being an athlete, 858 00:36:04,428 --> 00:36:06,564 it-it conditions you 859 00:36:07,365 --> 00:36:09,300 to always think you can win. 860 00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:12,370 [heroic instrumental music playing] 861 00:36:21,779 --> 00:36:24,282 [producer] So tell me, what happens next? 862 00:36:24,348 --> 00:36:26,551 Well, what happened next was we jumped out on 'em. 863 00:36:27,451 --> 00:36:28,452 They were shocked. 864 00:36:30,721 --> 00:36:31,789 [players exclaiming] 865 00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:33,925 We were dunking. We were screaming. 866 00:36:33,991 --> 00:36:36,127 We were throwing lobs. We were making shots. 867 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,062 All of a sudden, they was like, "Hold on. 868 00:36:38,129 --> 00:36:39,697 These guys came to play." 869 00:36:39,764 --> 00:36:41,365 [heroic music continues] 870 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,136 [Bird] It was a short game. I think it was 20-minute game. 871 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,805 We were playing pretty well, but they were playing great. 872 00:36:50,274 --> 00:36:52,043 I remember Penny more than anybody, 873 00:36:52,109 --> 00:36:53,744 'cause he looked like he was 12 years old, 874 00:36:53,811 --> 00:36:55,313 and he was kicking our butts, so... 875 00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:02,587 I think our athleticism surprised them. 876 00:37:04,555 --> 00:37:06,390 [Bird] We was trying to do too much. 877 00:37:06,457 --> 00:37:08,593 Making some bad passes, some turnovers. 878 00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:10,861 And that was my biggest fear. 879 00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:14,599 [Houston] It took us a minute to figure out, 880 00:37:14,665 --> 00:37:16,334 can I get by this guy? 881 00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:20,037 You saw Bobby Hurley started to see, 882 00:37:20,104 --> 00:37:23,741 "Oh, I can get into this crease, and I can find people." 883 00:37:25,643 --> 00:37:28,012 They can't keep Bobby in front of them. 884 00:37:29,113 --> 00:37:31,382 [Mashburn] Bobby Hurley was a nightmare for those guys, 885 00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:32,817 because he was small and quick. 886 00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:35,152 [Hurley] I was in a great frame of mind 887 00:37:35,219 --> 00:37:37,922 because I'd worked as hard as I ever worked 888 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:40,091 to get ready to go play against them. 889 00:37:40,157 --> 00:37:43,194 So once you do that, you have a belief in yourself. 890 00:37:44,462 --> 00:37:46,864 [Krzyzewski] Bobby gave the Dream Team an opportunity 891 00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:48,666 to play against that international guard 892 00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:50,268 who had no fear. 893 00:37:50,334 --> 00:37:52,036 [heroic music continues] 894 00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:57,708 [music builds, fades out] 895 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:00,678 [pensive music playing] 896 00:38:02,213 --> 00:38:03,914 [Hurley] It was like Christmas for me, 897 00:38:03,981 --> 00:38:05,383 because as a point guard, 898 00:38:05,449 --> 00:38:08,286 my options are Allan Houston, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, 899 00:38:08,352 --> 00:38:09,920 Chris Webber, Jamal Mashburn. 900 00:38:09,987 --> 00:38:12,657 It was like, wow, these are great options. 901 00:38:14,325 --> 00:38:16,160 [Hill] Grant and Penny get out and transition, 902 00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:18,129 got some blocks, got some steals. 903 00:38:19,163 --> 00:38:21,165 [players chattering indistinctly] 904 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,969 [Hill] Allan Houston hits a couple of threes. 905 00:38:29,707 --> 00:38:34,445 Webber has some incredibly athletic plays on the interior. 906 00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:39,317 Chris Webber was a man, you know? I mean... 907 00:38:39,383 --> 00:38:40,484 I always thought, "Boy, 908 00:38:40,551 --> 00:38:41,886 if that guy's coming to this league, 909 00:38:41,952 --> 00:38:43,087 I gotta get out of here." 910 00:38:43,154 --> 00:38:45,256 [pensive music continues] 911 00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:48,726 Anytime I got it, I wanted to tear the hinges off the rim, 912 00:38:48,793 --> 00:38:52,330 because these are the pillars of the big fellas in the league. 913 00:38:52,396 --> 00:38:55,266 I wanted to break a backboard so bad. 914 00:39:00,404 --> 00:39:01,872 [music ends with a flourish] 915 00:39:02,773 --> 00:39:06,210 [Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 playing] 916 00:39:08,145 --> 00:39:11,382 [Hill] Everybody's contributing. Everybody's doing something. 917 00:39:11,449 --> 00:39:13,351 And we're kind of feeding off each other 918 00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:16,187 and gaining confidence as we go. 919 00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:21,992 And you can tell that they're... not in sync. 920 00:39:23,327 --> 00:39:26,430 [Pippen] Everybody was trying to be very unselfish. 921 00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,632 We didn't know how to play with each other. 922 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,036 We didn't want to step on anybody's toes 923 00:39:32,103 --> 00:39:33,237 or hurt any egos. 924 00:39:45,716 --> 00:39:47,985 That college team was great. Although they were young 925 00:39:48,052 --> 00:39:50,621 and, uh, talking some junk. 926 00:39:51,288 --> 00:39:53,057 There was almost a sense of being stunned. 927 00:39:53,124 --> 00:39:55,025 [Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 continues] 928 00:39:59,530 --> 00:40:01,899 [Hill] And their body language... 929 00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:03,601 a little bit of getting upset. 930 00:40:06,337 --> 00:40:07,304 [whistle blows] 931 00:40:07,972 --> 00:40:10,040 -[whistle blows] -[Webber] They were pissed. 932 00:40:10,674 --> 00:40:12,109 [indistinct chatter] 933 00:40:13,677 --> 00:40:16,046 Those type of players don't get to where they've gotten 934 00:40:16,113 --> 00:40:20,584 in basketball without taking enormous pride in winning. 935 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,955 I sensed some frustration 936 00:40:25,022 --> 00:40:27,024 because they were running out of time. 937 00:40:27,091 --> 00:40:28,592 [indistinct yelling] 938 00:40:32,396 --> 00:40:33,964 [Houston] We knew at some point 939 00:40:34,031 --> 00:40:35,966 they were going to figure it out. 940 00:40:36,567 --> 00:40:39,870 But we felt like we had, like, a window to at least try 941 00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:41,572 to cause some confusion. 942 00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:43,908 [dramatic orchestral music playing] 943 00:40:43,974 --> 00:40:46,777 We had these young guys who thought their chance of ever 944 00:40:46,844 --> 00:40:49,547 playing in the Olympics had been taken away from them. 945 00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:51,115 They weren't intimidated. 946 00:40:51,182 --> 00:40:52,783 They were going to make us work. 947 00:40:52,850 --> 00:40:56,854 And for sure, there was a curiosity-- 948 00:40:56,921 --> 00:40:58,589 "How is Chuck going to react?" 949 00:40:58,656 --> 00:41:02,526 I think us as assistants right there, then, 950 00:41:02,593 --> 00:41:05,029 clearly it was, "Hey, Chuck, call a timeout." 951 00:41:05,095 --> 00:41:07,765 [dramatic music continues] 952 00:41:18,242 --> 00:41:20,177 We were like, "Hey, man, we're winning against 953 00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:22,646 the best team ever assembled. Let's keep it going." 954 00:41:22,713 --> 00:41:24,215 [dramatic music continues] 955 00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:27,351 [players grunting] 956 00:41:27,852 --> 00:41:30,688 They didn't take us seriously, and then when it came time 957 00:41:30,754 --> 00:41:32,823 for them to really get serious, it was too late. 958 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:34,525 The horse is already out the barn. 959 00:41:34,592 --> 00:41:36,694 [dramatic music continues] 960 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:39,029 [Wilkens] Even when you're a pro, 961 00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:40,898 you can't wait till the last minute 962 00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:43,901 and then think, all of a sudden, "I can turn it on." 963 00:41:43,968 --> 00:41:46,604 'Cause no, you'll get surprised. 964 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,441 [orchestral music builds] 965 00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:53,878 At the end, Chuck said, "Okay, that's enough." 966 00:41:55,946 --> 00:41:56,881 [whistle blows] 967 00:41:56,947 --> 00:41:59,083 [orchestral music continues] 968 00:42:01,018 --> 00:42:03,654 All I know is when the clock stopped, 969 00:42:03,721 --> 00:42:04,722 we were up. 970 00:42:08,926 --> 00:42:11,328 [music builds] 971 00:42:11,395 --> 00:42:13,497 [music fades] 972 00:42:16,734 --> 00:42:18,802 [Hurley] We kept it anywhere from like 6 to 12, 973 00:42:18,869 --> 00:42:21,272 I think, through most of that scrimmage. 974 00:42:21,338 --> 00:42:23,374 And then when it ended, uh, 975 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,943 I know-- I think we won by about 8 points. 976 00:42:28,512 --> 00:42:31,615 [Houston] It was almost like a silence, like a dead period. 977 00:42:31,682 --> 00:42:33,417 You could tell people were like, what do we do? 978 00:42:34,051 --> 00:42:36,554 [Erik Satie's Gnossienne No. 3 plays] 979 00:42:39,924 --> 00:42:41,926 [Hill] There was an uneasiness on their part. 980 00:42:41,992 --> 00:42:43,961 You could feel it. You could sense it. 981 00:42:44,028 --> 00:42:47,131 I think there was kind of a shock on everyone's part. 982 00:42:47,197 --> 00:42:49,066 I think everyone that was in the building 983 00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:50,501 was just kind of like... 984 00:42:51,335 --> 00:42:54,438 what-what's going on, or what just happened? 985 00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:59,009 [Carlesimo] You can talk all you want to players. 986 00:42:59,076 --> 00:43:01,245 And that team was 987 00:43:01,312 --> 00:43:03,747 the best basketball team ever put together. 988 00:43:03,814 --> 00:43:07,952 But even that team found out 989 00:43:08,018 --> 00:43:11,956 that if you're not highly motivated, 990 00:43:12,022 --> 00:43:13,891 if you take something for granted, 991 00:43:13,958 --> 00:43:17,094 if you don't prepare as best you can, 992 00:43:17,161 --> 00:43:20,531 that, uh, it can come back and bite you. 993 00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:21,532 You can't control it. 994 00:43:24,401 --> 00:43:26,470 [Webber] Nothing felt as good as that moment. 995 00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:30,074 And I was just looking like... yeah, yeah. 996 00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:31,842 We just reminded them that, you know, 997 00:43:31,909 --> 00:43:35,045 there's a billion-to-one long shot in every game. 998 00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:36,413 But we were that one. 999 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,915 [chuckles] 1000 00:43:38,682 --> 00:43:41,051 [dramatic orchestral music playing] 1001 00:43:41,118 --> 00:43:44,221 [cameraman] All those people wait for the team to come out. 1002 00:43:45,389 --> 00:43:47,024 See 'em waving there-- 1003 00:43:47,091 --> 00:43:48,959 [Hurley] Once we finished our scrimmage, 1004 00:43:49,026 --> 00:43:51,362 there had to be, like, 1,000 people just out there 1005 00:43:51,428 --> 00:43:53,831 trying to have a chance to see the new Dream Team 1006 00:43:53,897 --> 00:43:55,566 and talk to those guys. 1007 00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:56,700 It was overwhelming. 1008 00:44:02,406 --> 00:44:05,576 I remember when the scrimmage was over, seeing the score. 1009 00:44:06,510 --> 00:44:07,945 I didn't know the media was coming in. 1010 00:44:08,012 --> 00:44:09,546 I didn't-- This was all new to us. 1011 00:44:09,613 --> 00:44:12,049 But then you look up, and the score is down. 1012 00:44:14,885 --> 00:44:16,820 [Carlesimo] Chuck looked around the room 1013 00:44:16,887 --> 00:44:20,658 knowing this is gonna be the lead story in USA Today 1014 00:44:20,724 --> 00:44:22,359 and The New York Times. 1015 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,664 So all that was in Chuck's mind. 1016 00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:28,799 [camera shutters clicking] 1017 00:44:31,001 --> 00:44:34,138 [Mashburn] There was a lot riding on the Dream Team, 1018 00:44:34,204 --> 00:44:37,107 more than I think people really care to share. 1019 00:44:37,174 --> 00:44:41,045 So if you had a college select team... beat 'em, 1020 00:44:41,111 --> 00:44:43,914 you can imagine what the conversation would've been. 1021 00:44:44,782 --> 00:44:46,350 And Chuck said, "Get the score off there. 1022 00:44:46,417 --> 00:44:47,851 Cut it off." 1023 00:44:48,385 --> 00:44:51,455 I mean, he was not pleased in one little bit. 1024 00:44:51,522 --> 00:44:52,589 [Hardaway] He didn't want anybody 1025 00:44:52,656 --> 00:44:53,791 to take a picture of that score. 1026 00:44:53,857 --> 00:44:56,860 If anybody has that score on a picture, I need it. 1027 00:44:56,927 --> 00:44:58,228 [laughs] 1028 00:44:58,295 --> 00:45:00,631 I think it was smart to take off the score. 1029 00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,734 No visible, tangible evidence. 1030 00:45:03,801 --> 00:45:05,969 -[people chattering] -The press came in. 1031 00:45:06,036 --> 00:45:08,472 I mean, it was just an incredible number of people 1032 00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:09,873 there covering it. 1033 00:45:12,276 --> 00:45:14,178 [camera shutters clicking] 1034 00:45:18,048 --> 00:45:19,783 [Hurley] The media rolled in there. 1035 00:45:19,850 --> 00:45:21,085 We were told not to talk about it. 1036 00:45:21,151 --> 00:45:23,120 But we weren't gonna talk about it anyway. 1037 00:45:25,923 --> 00:45:28,692 [Hill] The media is gravitating to all the guys. 1038 00:45:32,129 --> 00:45:32,996 And we're there. 1039 00:45:33,063 --> 00:45:35,065 Nobody's coming to us. [chuckles] 1040 00:45:35,899 --> 00:45:37,968 Some of these players we just got through playing against 1041 00:45:38,035 --> 00:45:39,369 probably should be on this team. 1042 00:45:39,436 --> 00:45:41,405 -But they'll get their chance. -[reporters chuckle] 1043 00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:44,908 [Mullin] We got to scrimmage against a developmental team, 1044 00:45:44,975 --> 00:45:46,577 which is a really good bunch of players... 1045 00:45:46,643 --> 00:45:50,614 Nobody really said anything about losing the game. 1046 00:45:50,681 --> 00:45:53,350 It's intriguing in that the collegiate kids 1047 00:45:53,417 --> 00:45:54,485 are playing very well. 1048 00:45:54,551 --> 00:45:56,720 This is a terrific group we're playing against. 1049 00:45:56,787 --> 00:45:59,590 And I think we're somewhere between the mentality 1050 00:45:59,656 --> 00:46:02,793 of an All-Star Game and trying to come together as a team. 1051 00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:06,797 But-but the scoreboard thing really kind of, like, hmm. 1052 00:46:08,065 --> 00:46:10,267 Chuck Daly, they didn't want anybody to know 1053 00:46:10,334 --> 00:46:13,070 that the Dream Team could be imperfect. 1054 00:46:13,137 --> 00:46:15,239 [pensive music playing] 1055 00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:19,476 We're sitting there like, man, yeah, that happened. 1056 00:46:22,346 --> 00:46:23,747 [cameraman] Here they come. 1057 00:46:23,814 --> 00:46:25,716 [Houston] And there was a little chatter. 1058 00:46:25,783 --> 00:46:28,285 I do remember a couple of guys like C-Webb, 1059 00:46:28,352 --> 00:46:31,655 letting Barkley, Karl Malone, Bird, and them know, 1060 00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:32,790 "We got y'all." 1061 00:46:32,856 --> 00:46:34,024 [chuckles] 1062 00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:36,326 [crowd cheering] 1063 00:46:36,393 --> 00:46:38,495 [pensive music continues] 1064 00:46:41,131 --> 00:46:43,100 [cheering] 1065 00:46:45,102 --> 00:46:47,237 [overlapping chatter] 1066 00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:53,043 [laughter] 1067 00:46:55,779 --> 00:46:57,381 [Houston laughs] 1068 00:46:57,447 --> 00:46:59,383 You have a stretch where 1069 00:46:59,449 --> 00:47:00,884 you're just playing with confidence. 1070 00:47:00,951 --> 00:47:03,620 And then, when anybody has confidence, 1071 00:47:03,687 --> 00:47:05,055 you don't know what could happen. 1072 00:47:05,122 --> 00:47:07,157 [pensive music continues] 1073 00:47:07,691 --> 00:47:09,526 [Mashburn] We were pretty high on ourselves. 1074 00:47:09,593 --> 00:47:12,396 We felt like we were pros at that particular time. 1075 00:47:12,462 --> 00:47:14,498 And I remember going back to the hotel, 1076 00:47:14,565 --> 00:47:16,200 and I think me and Rodney Rogers 1077 00:47:16,266 --> 00:47:17,668 were sitting outside. 1078 00:47:17,734 --> 00:47:19,603 Bobby Hurley was there as well. 1079 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:22,940 That day after we won, Barkley yelled something at us. 1080 00:47:23,006 --> 00:47:25,809 You know, "You'll be back tomorrow." 1081 00:47:25,876 --> 00:47:28,245 You know, there might have been some chatter, 1082 00:47:28,312 --> 00:47:30,180 but certainly not from me. 1083 00:47:30,814 --> 00:47:32,649 Afterwards, I went to play golf. 1084 00:47:32,716 --> 00:47:34,651 [faint birdsong] 1085 00:47:35,586 --> 00:47:37,588 [Williams] And it was me and Michael, David Robinson, 1086 00:47:37,654 --> 00:47:39,623 Charles Barkley, and John Stockton. 1087 00:47:40,624 --> 00:47:41,992 Charles Barkley says, "Hey, Coach, 1088 00:47:42,059 --> 00:47:44,528 your boys ran their mouth too much today." 1089 00:47:45,095 --> 00:47:46,330 I said, "They were being kids, 1090 00:47:46,396 --> 00:47:48,065 but it was a great day for them, Charles. 1091 00:47:48,131 --> 00:47:49,766 Think about the thrill that they had." 1092 00:47:50,734 --> 00:47:51,969 And he said, "Well, we'll get 'em." 1093 00:47:52,035 --> 00:47:53,437 And I said, "I know. I told them, 1094 00:47:53,503 --> 00:47:55,172 you know, 'Don't talk too soon.'" 1095 00:47:56,473 --> 00:47:57,541 [music fades] 1096 00:47:57,608 --> 00:48:00,677 What really hurt was they were talking trash. 1097 00:48:00,744 --> 00:48:02,746 I mean, talking trash. 1098 00:48:04,414 --> 00:48:06,350 We were so hot. 1099 00:48:06,416 --> 00:48:08,118 We said to ourselves, 1100 00:48:08,185 --> 00:48:10,187 we don't ever want that to happen again. 1101 00:48:11,822 --> 00:48:13,924 [dramatic string music playing] 1102 00:48:17,427 --> 00:48:19,529 [producer] Okay, so the next day comes. 1103 00:48:20,864 --> 00:48:23,400 Before the game started, did you even sense, like, 1104 00:48:23,467 --> 00:48:25,002 this is a little different vibe? 1105 00:48:25,068 --> 00:48:26,436 I don't remember that day at all. 1106 00:48:26,503 --> 00:48:28,071 -You don't? -No, I'm joking. [laughs] 1107 00:48:28,138 --> 00:48:29,473 [dramatic music continues] 1108 00:48:29,539 --> 00:48:31,708 [Hill] So when we came back the next day, 1109 00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:34,978 we're riding high. 1110 00:48:35,045 --> 00:48:37,547 It wasn't like, "Hey, man, they're going to respond," 1111 00:48:37,614 --> 00:48:40,417 or, you know. It was like, man-- we're like, come on. 1112 00:48:40,484 --> 00:48:42,986 It's day two. I can't wait for day two. 1113 00:48:45,689 --> 00:48:47,024 [Krzyzewski] For the Dream Team, 1114 00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:49,293 there wasn't, like, this team meeting 1115 00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:51,595 and saying, "You know, we gotta beat the select team." 1116 00:48:51,662 --> 00:48:52,663 But they had talked. 1117 00:48:52,729 --> 00:48:54,097 They're men. 1118 00:48:54,164 --> 00:48:57,000 These are accomplished professionals. 1119 00:48:57,668 --> 00:48:59,970 So they said, "Well, we need to take care of business 1120 00:49:00,037 --> 00:49:01,138 better than we did." 1121 00:49:03,073 --> 00:49:04,775 And that's all Chuck wanted. 1122 00:49:04,841 --> 00:49:07,377 [music builds, fades out] 1123 00:49:07,444 --> 00:49:09,379 He wanted them to take care of business. 1124 00:49:09,446 --> 00:49:12,149 [Daly] White team outside, five on five. 1125 00:49:12,215 --> 00:49:14,851 Go about one set, five, transition... 1126 00:49:14,918 --> 00:49:16,353 [Houston] It's the Dream Team. 1127 00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:18,255 You saw it when we walked in the gym. 1128 00:49:18,322 --> 00:49:20,791 They were, you know, going intense. 1129 00:49:20,857 --> 00:49:22,926 -[players grunting] -[whistle blows] 1130 00:49:22,993 --> 00:49:26,430 I-I just remember, you know, we were like... 1131 00:49:26,496 --> 00:49:28,098 meat getting salted and seasoned. 1132 00:49:28,165 --> 00:49:29,399 [laughs] 1133 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:31,401 [players chattering] 1134 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:34,271 [Mashburn] I remember Rodney Rogers just joking 1135 00:49:34,338 --> 00:49:36,239 and said something to Larry Bird like, 1136 00:49:36,306 --> 00:49:39,109 "You haven't hit a jump shot since 1988." 1137 00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:43,113 It was kind of a joke like "you're an old man" type deal. 1138 00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:47,784 And I distinctively remember... Magic kinda looking. 1139 00:49:48,185 --> 00:49:50,687 It's like, he wasn't offended, but it was like... 1140 00:49:50,754 --> 00:49:51,955 he's logging it. 1141 00:49:52,789 --> 00:49:54,992 And then we was all mixed. 1142 00:49:55,058 --> 00:49:56,293 Being in that circle, 1143 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,163 and, um, even the jump ball circle felt different. 1144 00:50:00,230 --> 00:50:03,567 It's just... mm, this don't feel like day one. 1145 00:50:03,633 --> 00:50:07,704 [opening chords of Beethoven's Symphony No. 5 plays] 1146 00:50:08,605 --> 00:50:10,207 [Mashburn] And when it was time to go, 1147 00:50:10,273 --> 00:50:11,975 Magic made it an emphasis 1148 00:50:12,042 --> 00:50:13,643 to get the ball to Larry Bird. 1149 00:50:13,710 --> 00:50:15,746 And Larry Bird proceeds 1150 00:50:15,812 --> 00:50:18,215 to tell Rodney Rogers, 1151 00:50:18,281 --> 00:50:20,684 "One dribble, high off glass." 1152 00:50:21,685 --> 00:50:24,021 He proceeded to do exactly that. 1153 00:50:24,087 --> 00:50:26,523 And Rodney couldn't do anything about it. 1154 00:50:28,258 --> 00:50:30,193 [Bird] I knew Magic was gon' pass me the ball. 1155 00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:31,995 I had a 6'6" kid guarding me. 1156 00:50:32,396 --> 00:50:33,463 That don't work. 1157 00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:35,332 [Mashburn] Next play down... 1158 00:50:35,399 --> 00:50:38,335 [chuckles] Magic goes back to Larry Bird again. 1159 00:50:38,402 --> 00:50:39,469 And I promise you, 1160 00:50:39,536 --> 00:50:41,104 probably about eight trips down the court, 1161 00:50:41,171 --> 00:50:43,974 I saw Larry Bird do exactly 1162 00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:46,810 what he said he was going to do. 1163 00:50:46,877 --> 00:50:48,912 Even though Larry's back was hurting, 1164 00:50:48,979 --> 00:50:51,848 that boy could still shoot that basketball. 1165 00:50:51,915 --> 00:50:54,551 And the net... didn't move. 1166 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,353 And he'd sit there and shoot 1167 00:50:56,420 --> 00:50:58,255 and talk to you at the same time. 1168 00:50:58,321 --> 00:51:00,824 [players chattering] 1169 00:51:02,259 --> 00:51:05,195 [Rogers speaking] 1170 00:51:08,632 --> 00:51:11,468 [Webber] I saw Larry Bird say to Rodney Rogers... 1171 00:51:11,535 --> 00:51:12,803 He went like this, 1172 00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:16,373 all of a sudden, Rodney Rogers flies by in slow motion, 1173 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,776 and he's like, "Welcome to the parachute club." 1174 00:51:19,843 --> 00:51:20,677 Whoosh! 1175 00:51:20,744 --> 00:51:23,613 [sneakers squeaking] 1176 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,284 [Beethoven's Symphony No. 5 continues playing] 1177 00:51:27,951 --> 00:51:31,388 [players yelling indistinctly] 1178 00:51:35,492 --> 00:51:36,960 [music fades] 1179 00:51:37,027 --> 00:51:38,361 It was a bloodbath in there. 1180 00:51:38,428 --> 00:51:40,163 [Symphony No. 5 resumes] 1181 00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:43,033 [Hurley] They were just so dominant, in every facet. 1182 00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,469 Size, throw the ball in the post, 1183 00:51:45,535 --> 00:51:48,738 you know, block shots, dunks, threes, everything. 1184 00:51:48,805 --> 00:51:49,773 [Webber] They were mad. 1185 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,241 [whistle blows] 1186 00:51:51,308 --> 00:51:52,776 It was a hurt-your-feelings day. 1187 00:51:54,111 --> 00:51:55,879 [players chattering] 1188 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,151 [Webber] I've never seen defense in my life like I did that day. 1189 00:52:01,751 --> 00:52:04,054 [Johnson] I'm looking at Michael and Scottie, 1190 00:52:04,121 --> 00:52:05,021 and they're like, 1191 00:52:05,088 --> 00:52:07,157 "We wanna put it on these guys." 1192 00:52:07,224 --> 00:52:09,826 I've always said Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen together, 1193 00:52:09,893 --> 00:52:12,329 two of the best defenders I've ever seen. 1194 00:52:13,096 --> 00:52:14,698 It was a thing of beauty. 1195 00:52:15,465 --> 00:52:16,800 [Hurley] When they threw a perimeter 1196 00:52:16,867 --> 00:52:19,269 of Michael, Scottie, and Clyde Drexler, 1197 00:52:19,336 --> 00:52:21,705 there was so much athleticism on the floor. 1198 00:52:22,305 --> 00:52:24,574 I couldn't go by them off the dribble. 1199 00:52:24,641 --> 00:52:26,276 I couldn't really do anything. 1200 00:52:26,743 --> 00:52:29,112 [Laettner] I can't even tell you how quick the Dream Team 1201 00:52:29,179 --> 00:52:30,480 went from defense to offense. 1202 00:52:30,547 --> 00:52:32,949 When they decided to play good defense, 1203 00:52:33,016 --> 00:52:35,652 and then they got a steal or a turnover, bam, they're gone. 1204 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,188 They're scoring within a second down there. 1205 00:52:38,255 --> 00:52:40,290 [players chattering] 1206 00:52:43,059 --> 00:52:46,463 The day before, Allan Houston went off like 20-something. 1207 00:52:46,530 --> 00:52:51,168 And I remember Jordan said something to the effect of, 1208 00:52:51,234 --> 00:52:52,936 "You ain't gonna get a shot off today. 1209 00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:55,138 You're not going to get it above your shoulders." 1210 00:52:55,205 --> 00:52:58,608 Like, literally, you're not gonna get it above here. 1211 00:52:59,576 --> 00:53:03,680 That day, Allan Houston did not get it above his shoulders. 1212 00:53:03,747 --> 00:53:06,082 [players chattering] 1213 00:53:08,351 --> 00:53:12,422 And that's when I realized how good Michael Jordan was. 1214 00:53:12,489 --> 00:53:15,659 [Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" choral music playing] 1215 00:53:19,029 --> 00:53:21,097 [Mashburn] With all those Hall of Fame players, 1216 00:53:21,164 --> 00:53:23,133 if you didn't know anything about basketball, 1217 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,635 you can tell who the best player on the court was. 1218 00:53:25,702 --> 00:53:27,003 He never liked to lose. 1219 00:53:27,070 --> 00:53:28,772 Michael always got that look, 1220 00:53:28,838 --> 00:53:29,839 like... 1221 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:31,474 "What the fuck going on?" 1222 00:53:31,975 --> 00:53:34,311 And when you see that look, 1223 00:53:34,377 --> 00:53:37,314 just... give him the damn ball and get out the way. 1224 00:53:38,348 --> 00:53:41,685 [Mashburn] After that, I second-guessed 1225 00:53:41,751 --> 00:53:42,819 if I was going to be 1226 00:53:42,886 --> 00:53:44,688 a professional basketball player. 1227 00:53:46,122 --> 00:53:49,125 [Hill] It was like we had superpowers the first day, 1228 00:53:49,192 --> 00:53:51,928 and then, all of a sudden, 1229 00:53:51,995 --> 00:53:55,865 there's a big rock of kryptonite in the middle of the court. 1230 00:53:55,932 --> 00:53:57,667 Like, it was-- it was like night and day. 1231 00:53:57,734 --> 00:54:00,303 ["Ode to Joy" continues playing] 1232 00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:04,174 [Rogers speaking] 1233 00:54:04,808 --> 00:54:06,710 And I was like, "Good God." 1234 00:54:11,348 --> 00:54:13,483 [chuckles] 1235 00:54:16,219 --> 00:54:18,555 [Wilkens] All of a sudden, Chuck got nervous, 1236 00:54:18,622 --> 00:54:20,924 and he didn't want anybody to get hurt. 1237 00:54:21,524 --> 00:54:23,326 So he called a stop to it. 1238 00:54:23,393 --> 00:54:25,629 ["Ode to Joy" continues] 1239 00:54:25,695 --> 00:54:29,366 [Wilkens] But Chuck could see the point was made. 1240 00:54:29,432 --> 00:54:31,968 Message sent and received. 1241 00:54:32,035 --> 00:54:33,303 [laughs] 1242 00:54:34,304 --> 00:54:36,306 [music concludes] 1243 00:54:36,373 --> 00:54:38,842 [mellow ambient music playing] 1244 00:54:47,917 --> 00:54:49,986 [Hill] From that point on, 1245 00:54:50,053 --> 00:54:52,155 everything was happy memories. 1246 00:54:52,756 --> 00:54:54,924 The Dream Team went to the Olympics... 1247 00:54:54,991 --> 00:54:56,192 [crowd cheering] 1248 00:54:56,259 --> 00:54:57,727 [announcer] Magic rock! 1249 00:54:57,794 --> 00:54:59,763 [Hill] Destroyed every team in their path... 1250 00:54:59,829 --> 00:55:03,767 [announcer] The US with a 46-1 run. 1251 00:55:04,934 --> 00:55:06,903 [Hill] Won the gold medal... 1252 00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:10,907 [announcer] The US has won the gold here in Barcelona. 1253 00:55:11,508 --> 00:55:13,109 [Hill] And reclaimed America's place 1254 00:55:13,176 --> 00:55:15,111 atop the basketball world. 1255 00:55:18,348 --> 00:55:19,983 [music fades] 1256 00:55:20,050 --> 00:55:21,251 [Hill] Best part of all, 1257 00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:23,453 me and my college teammates go down 1258 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,323 as the only team to ever beat the Dream Team. 1259 00:55:26,389 --> 00:55:28,825 A perfect ending to a perfect story. 1260 00:55:31,428 --> 00:55:35,999 Unfortunately, that's not how our story ends. 1261 00:55:36,066 --> 00:55:38,635 [somber music playing] 1262 00:55:39,569 --> 00:55:41,171 [Hill] You see, 20 years later... 1263 00:55:41,237 --> 00:55:43,239 Well, I figured eventually there'd be a movie 1264 00:55:43,306 --> 00:55:44,641 made about the Dream Team. 1265 00:55:44,708 --> 00:55:46,376 [Hill] ...they released a documentary 1266 00:55:46,443 --> 00:55:47,510 on the Dream Team. 1267 00:55:50,647 --> 00:55:52,716 That's when everything changed. 1268 00:55:56,753 --> 00:55:58,888 [Krzyzewski in 2012] He threw the game. 1269 00:55:58,955 --> 00:56:01,324 You know, Chuck threw the game. 1270 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,895 If you look how much Jordan played 1271 00:56:05,962 --> 00:56:07,997 and how he subbed guys in, 1272 00:56:08,531 --> 00:56:10,967 he set it up for us to lose. 1273 00:56:11,034 --> 00:56:14,437 Not picking up, not making any adjustments. 1274 00:56:14,504 --> 00:56:16,106 He knew what he was doing. 1275 00:56:16,172 --> 00:56:19,075 And then from then on, he had a way of just saying, 1276 00:56:19,142 --> 00:56:21,144 "You know, you could lose." 1277 00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:23,980 [Hurley in 2012] It was legit. 1278 00:56:24,514 --> 00:56:26,149 It felt tremendous, 1279 00:56:26,216 --> 00:56:27,917 you know, what we were doing that day. 1280 00:56:27,984 --> 00:56:31,087 You know, they couldn't stop it. [chuckles] 1281 00:56:31,154 --> 00:56:34,190 You know, there are kids who believe in Santa Claus, too, 1282 00:56:34,257 --> 00:56:37,293 and... and the Easter Bunny. 1283 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,897 And now that they've grown up, I hate to burst their bubble, 1284 00:56:40,964 --> 00:56:43,366 but, uh, it was a game thrown. 1285 00:56:44,401 --> 00:56:47,871 [Hill] At that moment, all I could say was... 1286 00:56:47,937 --> 00:56:49,239 "Damn, Coach." 1287 00:56:52,308 --> 00:56:54,677 [producer] Yeah, that's good. Just tilt up just a hair. 1288 00:56:55,378 --> 00:56:58,615 -[indistinct chatter] -[chuckles] 1289 00:56:58,681 --> 00:57:02,685 You know, what's interesting is that Grant and Bobby Hurley 1290 00:57:02,752 --> 00:57:06,289 and that team that beat the Dream Team in '92, 1291 00:57:06,356 --> 00:57:07,824 it's such a well-known story. 1292 00:57:07,891 --> 00:57:11,594 [producer] Yeah. Coach K claims that Chuck Daly threw the game. 1293 00:57:11,661 --> 00:57:15,198 -[laughs] -Uh, do you believe that? 1294 00:57:15,265 --> 00:57:17,100 No, I don't believe it. 1295 00:57:17,167 --> 00:57:18,802 [laughter] 1296 00:57:18,868 --> 00:57:21,905 [Erik Satie's Gnossienne No. 3 plays] 1297 00:57:26,242 --> 00:57:28,378 [Krzyzewski] The guys on the select team say, 1298 00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:30,146 "We beat 'em in the scrimmage." 1299 00:57:30,213 --> 00:57:32,682 God bless 'em, they can say that for 1300 00:57:32,749 --> 00:57:35,485 the rest of their lives, and that's a cool thing. 1301 00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:39,622 I think the person who won at that time was Chuck Daly. 1302 00:57:42,091 --> 00:57:43,993 The very first thing about Chuck Daly was 1303 00:57:44,060 --> 00:57:46,796 he was the perfect guy to coach that team 1304 00:57:46,863 --> 00:57:48,665 or any US team. 1305 00:57:49,499 --> 00:57:52,235 Chuck was not only a brilliant tactician, 1306 00:57:52,302 --> 00:57:53,503 he understood people. 1307 00:57:53,570 --> 00:57:54,771 [Daly] First part was good. 1308 00:57:54,838 --> 00:57:56,739 -Karl. -[Malone] Yes, sir. 1309 00:57:56,806 --> 00:57:59,409 [Krzyzewski] And he understood stars. 1310 00:58:00,243 --> 00:58:04,113 He knew that a number of things would have to go wrong 1311 00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:06,850 for us to lose during the Olympics. 1312 00:58:06,916 --> 00:58:09,185 But still, there was pressure on him. 1313 00:58:09,252 --> 00:58:10,854 -All right, go ahead. -[clapping] 1314 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,089 [Krzyzewski] Because anything can happen. 1315 00:58:13,156 --> 00:58:15,158 There are periods of time 1316 00:58:15,225 --> 00:58:19,729 where the best talent doesn't beat lesser talent. 1317 00:58:19,796 --> 00:58:24,834 And what I think happened that day with the select team 1318 00:58:24,901 --> 00:58:27,403 is that he looked at that as an opportunity. 1319 00:58:28,404 --> 00:58:30,173 It was his opportunity 1320 00:58:30,707 --> 00:58:32,909 to introduce defeat, 1321 00:58:32,976 --> 00:58:36,813 like how you might feel if you lost. 1322 00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:40,283 "That's my opportunity. It might never happen again. 1323 00:58:41,251 --> 00:58:42,752 Michael, sit down. 1324 00:58:42,819 --> 00:58:44,554 You-- You're okay." 1325 00:58:50,026 --> 00:58:53,363 I knew then what he was doing. 1326 00:58:53,429 --> 00:58:55,865 And I thought it was brilliant, you know, 1327 00:58:55,932 --> 00:58:57,567 to be quite frank with you. 1328 00:59:00,937 --> 00:59:02,739 [Laettner] Chuck might have. He might have. 1329 00:59:02,805 --> 00:59:07,210 To let the 11 pros on the Dream Team feel that, 1330 00:59:07,277 --> 00:59:09,012 "Hey, if we don't take it seriously, 1331 00:59:09,078 --> 00:59:10,980 and if we don't turn ourselves on 1332 00:59:11,047 --> 00:59:12,248 and play the right way, 1333 00:59:12,315 --> 00:59:13,583 anyone can beat us." 1334 00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:15,652 [dramatic string music playing] 1335 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,622 [Carlesimo] Mike K and I have argued about this for years 1336 00:59:19,689 --> 00:59:22,392 because Mike still believes, I-I think, 1337 00:59:22,458 --> 00:59:24,761 that Chuck orchestrated the whole thing. 1338 00:59:25,261 --> 00:59:30,300 But I think that that occurred as the scrimmage developed. 1339 00:59:30,366 --> 00:59:31,501 At some point, he said, 1340 00:59:31,568 --> 00:59:33,303 "All right, whatever happens happens. 1341 00:59:33,369 --> 00:59:34,671 I'm not gonna stop it." 1342 00:59:34,737 --> 00:59:36,506 [players chattering] 1343 00:59:38,474 --> 00:59:41,177 He just let it kinda pick up 1344 00:59:41,244 --> 00:59:43,680 and-and let the game go with natural flow. 1345 00:59:43,746 --> 00:59:45,081 There was no time-out saying, 1346 00:59:45,148 --> 00:59:47,016 "What the hell are you guys doing? 1347 00:59:47,083 --> 00:59:48,184 You know, turn it on, 1348 00:59:48,251 --> 00:59:50,520 or these college kids are gonna beat ya." 1349 00:59:54,090 --> 00:59:56,759 Here's my Dream Team book that I have, you know, 1350 00:59:56,826 --> 00:59:59,095 sitting in my house all the time. 1351 00:59:59,162 --> 01:00:04,534 And maybe there's some pictures of stuff we just talked about. 1352 01:00:05,168 --> 01:00:07,370 That's a picture from the scrimmage 1353 01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,272 with the college kids that we're talking about. 1354 01:00:09,339 --> 01:00:10,340 And if you look closely, 1355 01:00:10,406 --> 01:00:12,709 Magic and Michael are sitting over there. 1356 01:00:12,775 --> 01:00:14,143 [chuckles] They're not playing. 1357 01:00:14,210 --> 01:00:17,313 And I don't even know if they're even sweaty 1358 01:00:17,380 --> 01:00:19,215 because maybe they haven't played at all. 1359 01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:26,923 [pensive string music playing] 1360 01:00:28,324 --> 01:00:30,360 [Hill] So, you know, I know... 1361 01:00:32,328 --> 01:00:36,366 Coach K said that Chuck threw the game, 1362 01:00:36,766 --> 01:00:38,101 which I still... 1363 01:00:39,268 --> 01:00:40,970 I still have a hard time with that. 1364 01:00:41,037 --> 01:00:42,939 I hear all the conspiracy theories, 1365 01:00:43,006 --> 01:00:45,808 and I'm telling you, all of that is convenient. 1366 01:00:45,875 --> 01:00:48,344 The coach made the team lose on purpose 1367 01:00:48,411 --> 01:00:50,213 so we could win a scrimmage? 1368 01:00:50,279 --> 01:00:51,581 Bullshit. 1369 01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:54,484 [scoffs] Um, just call it what it is. 1370 01:00:55,151 --> 01:00:57,720 [Webber] You can't use coaches as an excuse to lose. 1371 01:00:57,787 --> 01:00:58,988 This is hoopin'. 1372 01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:00,723 [Houston] This is the Dream Team. 1373 01:01:00,790 --> 01:01:03,960 They don't need any extra psychology or motivation. 1374 01:01:04,727 --> 01:01:07,230 [Hill] Okay, maybe you took Michael out of the game 1375 01:01:07,296 --> 01:01:08,498 for a period of time. 1376 01:01:09,032 --> 01:01:11,668 But you still had some pretty darn good players out there. 1377 01:01:11,734 --> 01:01:13,202 So we're better than the rest of 'em? 1378 01:01:13,936 --> 01:01:16,406 [Hardaway] You mean to tell me that Magic Johnson, 1379 01:01:16,472 --> 01:01:17,974 John Stockton, Clyde Drexler, 1380 01:01:18,041 --> 01:01:19,942 David Robinson, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley 1381 01:01:20,009 --> 01:01:22,245 aren't enough for some college kids? 1382 01:01:22,311 --> 01:01:23,146 Think about that. 1383 01:01:23,212 --> 01:01:24,714 [music intensifies] 1384 01:01:25,281 --> 01:01:26,549 [Hill] See, here's the thing. 1385 01:01:26,616 --> 01:01:28,484 Irrespective of what the coach wanted, 1386 01:01:28,551 --> 01:01:31,788 if I'm on that team, if I'm a competitor, 1387 01:01:32,388 --> 01:01:33,990 and I'm getting beat, like... 1388 01:01:34,057 --> 01:01:36,092 Like, no, like, I'm gonna, like... 1389 01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:37,960 You know, you're gonna get mad, you're gonna... 1390 01:01:38,027 --> 01:01:40,463 Like, there's pride, you know? [chuckles] 1391 01:01:40,530 --> 01:01:42,231 And-and you know what? 1392 01:01:43,533 --> 01:01:44,834 Guys on the Dream Team have pride. 1393 01:01:44,901 --> 01:01:46,469 And Michael Jordan is the greatest. 1394 01:01:46,536 --> 01:01:47,804 I'm not tripping on that. 1395 01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:49,539 But I think Michael Jordan would tell you 1396 01:01:49,605 --> 01:01:52,141 that if he didn't play, that they should beat us. 1397 01:01:55,611 --> 01:01:58,281 Let's be honest. They didn't rest the complete starting five. 1398 01:01:58,347 --> 01:01:59,949 They rested Michael Jordan. 1399 01:02:00,016 --> 01:02:01,384 But he still played. 1400 01:02:01,451 --> 01:02:03,152 It wasn't like he played one minute 1401 01:02:03,219 --> 01:02:04,454 and sat out the rest of it. 1402 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,755 No, he played. 1403 01:02:06,989 --> 01:02:08,891 [Hurley] I didn't keep track of how many minutes 1404 01:02:08,958 --> 01:02:10,026 Jordan was out there, 1405 01:02:10,093 --> 01:02:12,228 but I was always looking over my shoulder. 1406 01:02:12,628 --> 01:02:15,098 I think they played really hard. They wanted to beat us. 1407 01:02:15,164 --> 01:02:17,166 We just-- We were quicker on the ball, 1408 01:02:17,233 --> 01:02:19,469 maybe a fraction of a step quicker that day, 1409 01:02:19,535 --> 01:02:21,537 and just, uh, playing freely. 1410 01:02:21,604 --> 01:02:25,675 [Hill] That's where I have issues with this idea 1411 01:02:25,742 --> 01:02:27,910 of throwing the game. 1412 01:02:27,977 --> 01:02:29,312 The only people who can throw a game 1413 01:02:29,378 --> 01:02:30,947 are the people in the game. 1414 01:02:31,013 --> 01:02:31,981 [whistle blows] 1415 01:02:32,048 --> 01:02:33,816 [dramatic music playing] 1416 01:02:33,883 --> 01:02:36,018 [Mashburn] They talkin' about Chuck Daly's 1417 01:02:36,085 --> 01:02:37,720 method to his madness. 1418 01:02:37,787 --> 01:02:39,188 We never got the memo. 1419 01:02:41,057 --> 01:02:43,760 I think there was a signature moment in the game 1420 01:02:43,826 --> 01:02:45,027 that we were on a run, 1421 01:02:45,094 --> 01:02:46,929 and Chuck Daly called a time-out. 1422 01:02:49,098 --> 01:02:51,667 I just remember kinda glancing over at Coach K. 1423 01:02:51,734 --> 01:02:53,503 He was kind of looking surprised. 1424 01:02:54,403 --> 01:02:56,038 Yeah, I don't remember that. 1425 01:02:56,105 --> 01:02:58,007 And to be quite frank, I don't remember it 1426 01:02:58,074 --> 01:03:00,343 because I didn't think it was that important. 1427 01:03:01,544 --> 01:03:03,379 [Carlesimo] Mike's got two problems. 1428 01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:05,848 First of all, his memory is a little faulty. 1429 01:03:05,915 --> 01:03:07,917 And secondly, he never lets the truth 1430 01:03:07,984 --> 01:03:10,820 get in the way of a good story. [laughs] 1431 01:03:10,887 --> 01:03:13,656 But I will say Chuck did not go out of his way to stop it. 1432 01:03:13,723 --> 01:03:15,224 It wasn't like he was taking time-outs 1433 01:03:15,291 --> 01:03:17,260 and breaking clipboards and screaming at them. 1434 01:03:17,326 --> 01:03:18,728 I think Chuck said, "You know what, 1435 01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:20,196 this might not be the worst thing." 1436 01:03:23,166 --> 01:03:24,167 [Williams] Bullshit. 1437 01:03:24,233 --> 01:03:26,702 I'm 73 years old. I don't buy it now. 1438 01:03:26,769 --> 01:03:29,105 If I live to 99, I won't buy it then. 1439 01:03:29,605 --> 01:03:31,874 We did beat the Dream Team. 1440 01:03:31,941 --> 01:03:34,043 [dramatic music continues] 1441 01:03:36,746 --> 01:03:38,047 [music fades] 1442 01:03:38,114 --> 01:03:40,850 I played for coaches that say talent gets you beat 1443 01:03:40,917 --> 01:03:42,084 if talent doesn't work hard. 1444 01:03:42,885 --> 01:03:45,054 And the motivation and the energy and the effort 1445 01:03:45,121 --> 01:03:46,255 is something you can't coach. 1446 01:03:46,322 --> 01:03:47,924 For us college players, 1447 01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:49,992 our opportunity to be Olympians 1448 01:03:50,059 --> 01:03:51,627 was kind of taken away. 1449 01:03:52,061 --> 01:03:55,198 So that was maybe our one day 1450 01:03:55,264 --> 01:03:58,000 to, uh, to have our moment. 1451 01:03:58,067 --> 01:03:59,535 [Webber] That wasn't a practice to us. 1452 01:03:59,602 --> 01:04:01,604 It was the biggest moments of our life. 1453 01:04:01,671 --> 01:04:03,906 We played it as if it was a championship game. 1454 01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:07,109 We were so motivated because everyone in life knows 1455 01:04:07,176 --> 01:04:09,278 you can slay the giant on that one day. 1456 01:04:09,345 --> 01:04:11,581 [mellow ambient music playing] 1457 01:04:12,615 --> 01:04:13,883 [Houston] Look, if I'm a coach, 1458 01:04:13,950 --> 01:04:15,451 and I got this young kid saying, 1459 01:04:15,518 --> 01:04:16,686 "I beat you, I beat you," 1460 01:04:16,752 --> 01:04:18,387 I'm not gonna be like, "Yeah, you beat me." 1461 01:04:18,454 --> 01:04:20,456 I'm going to have something to say about it, right? 1462 01:04:20,523 --> 01:04:21,991 And I think that's all it is. 1463 01:04:22,058 --> 01:04:23,860 Coach, he's gon' have something to say about it. 1464 01:04:23,926 --> 01:04:25,595 He's not gonna be like, "Yeah, okay." 1465 01:04:25,661 --> 01:04:28,965 You know, that's-- it's a competitive spirit. 1466 01:04:29,031 --> 01:04:30,833 Coach K is a phenomenal human being. 1467 01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:32,802 He's an unbelievable coach. 1468 01:04:33,269 --> 01:04:36,405 That's the way that he motivated his teams. 1469 01:04:36,472 --> 01:04:39,141 If a loss came about, we deserved it. 1470 01:04:39,208 --> 01:04:41,043 You didn't play Duke basketball. 1471 01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:43,212 I think he said that because that's kind of how 1472 01:04:43,279 --> 01:04:46,082 he handles his... his business at Duke. 1473 01:04:51,854 --> 01:04:54,323 [producer] Coach, if Chuck Daly was alive today, 1474 01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:55,558 what do you think he'd say? 1475 01:04:56,092 --> 01:04:58,594 He might say we tried our best. 1476 01:04:59,428 --> 01:05:03,232 And-- Because it was only important that he knew. 1477 01:05:03,299 --> 01:05:04,600 But you know what? 1478 01:05:05,701 --> 01:05:07,837 No one will ever know for sure. 1479 01:05:14,644 --> 01:05:16,646 [Hill] Not long ago, Coach K called 1480 01:05:16,712 --> 01:05:19,282 and invited me to be a guest on his podcast. 1481 01:05:20,182 --> 01:05:21,684 I knew this was it. 1482 01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:23,619 My chance to finally challenge him 1483 01:05:23,686 --> 01:05:26,255 on his "Chuck Daly threw the game" story. 1484 01:05:27,223 --> 01:05:29,425 [podcast host] Grant Hill was a four-year player at Duke, 1485 01:05:29,492 --> 01:05:31,260 won back-to-back national titles. 1486 01:05:31,327 --> 01:05:33,829 He's the managing director for USA Basketball. 1487 01:05:34,363 --> 01:05:38,067 [Krzyzewski] Managing director for USA Basketball. 1488 01:05:38,134 --> 01:05:43,139 So what about Paris and the Olympics? 1489 01:05:43,205 --> 01:05:46,776 The expectations, obviously, for anything we do, 1490 01:05:46,842 --> 01:05:48,878 is gold medal, as it should be. 1491 01:05:48,945 --> 01:05:51,681 You were a part of the '92 Dream Team. 1492 01:05:51,747 --> 01:05:54,016 -Yes. -Were on that coaching staff. 1493 01:05:54,083 --> 01:05:57,453 What that did for the game was incredible. 1494 01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,587 Explosion. 1495 01:05:58,654 --> 01:06:00,289 -[Hill] It exploded. -Yeah. 1496 01:06:01,490 --> 01:06:05,528 Well, you know, Coach, I always appreciated playing for you. 1497 01:06:05,594 --> 01:06:09,098 And I think one of the things you taught me 1498 01:06:09,165 --> 01:06:11,634 was to speak my mind. 1499 01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:15,071 I saw the Dream Team documentary. 1500 01:06:15,137 --> 01:06:17,673 And I know you've said that the game was thrown 1501 01:06:17,740 --> 01:06:19,241 and all that, but... 1502 01:06:19,775 --> 01:06:21,344 we beat the Dream Team that day. 1503 01:06:21,410 --> 01:06:22,912 You're right up to a point. 1504 01:06:22,979 --> 01:06:25,414 First of all, you guys were the first select team. 1505 01:06:25,481 --> 01:06:28,617 The Dream Team, they liked you 1506 01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:30,853 and they thought you were helping 'em, 1507 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,822 but they knew they could beat you at any time. 1508 01:06:32,888 --> 01:06:35,624 And so they didn't come in loaded for bear, so to speak. 1509 01:06:35,691 --> 01:06:36,892 Right. 1510 01:06:36,959 --> 01:06:39,528 Once it started, and you guys were playing lights out, 1511 01:06:39,595 --> 01:06:41,497 Chuck Daly, as a brilliant coach, 1512 01:06:41,564 --> 01:06:43,032 he let it happen. 1513 01:06:43,566 --> 01:06:45,201 Did you ever hear him raise his voice? 1514 01:06:45,267 --> 01:06:47,737 Or you guys weren't paying attention to that. 1515 01:06:47,803 --> 01:06:50,439 But the reason we didn't hear Chuck yelling and screaming, 1516 01:06:50,506 --> 01:06:52,541 because we were too busy dunking 1517 01:06:52,608 --> 01:06:54,643 and scoring and high-fiving each other. 1518 01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:58,114 You were in a segmented part of competition. 1519 01:06:58,180 --> 01:06:59,882 And in those segments, 1520 01:07:00,449 --> 01:07:05,021 a brilliant coach would take advantage of what he saw, 1521 01:07:05,087 --> 01:07:08,124 not just before and after the segment, 1522 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:09,425 but during the segment. 1523 01:07:09,492 --> 01:07:11,394 Your segment was terrific 1524 01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:16,432 because he couldn't teach them what it would mean to lose. 1525 01:07:17,166 --> 01:07:19,035 And so you were... 1526 01:07:19,869 --> 01:07:22,138 -You were used... -[laughs] 1527 01:07:22,671 --> 01:07:24,807 -...for a gold medal. Come on. -I beg to differ. 1528 01:07:24,874 --> 01:07:28,344 I remember Allan Houston, like, getting hot. 1529 01:07:28,411 --> 01:07:31,547 I remember Bobby just getting into the paint at will. 1530 01:07:32,014 --> 01:07:35,151 I remember Chris Webber dunking all over the bigs. 1531 01:07:35,217 --> 01:07:38,721 You have Magic and Bird and Jordan and Barkley. 1532 01:07:38,788 --> 01:07:40,056 These are the greatest. 1533 01:07:40,122 --> 01:07:41,557 They're like the greatest players 1534 01:07:41,624 --> 01:07:43,159 and the greatest competitors. 1535 01:07:43,225 --> 01:07:45,061 Forget about what the coaches are saying, 1536 01:07:45,127 --> 01:07:47,463 Chuck, they're like, "Hey, we're not letting this happen." 1537 01:07:47,530 --> 01:07:49,732 -Maybe he couldn't stop it. -Right. 1538 01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:51,567 But he didn't attempt to stop it. 1539 01:07:52,334 --> 01:07:55,271 Now, do you remember what happened the next day? 1540 01:07:55,337 --> 01:07:57,440 [clicks tongue] I-I don't. I don't. 1541 01:07:57,506 --> 01:08:00,543 You know, I-I remember the arrival. 1542 01:08:00,609 --> 01:08:01,977 I remember the first day. 1543 01:08:02,044 --> 01:08:07,183 They were on, uh, a cruise ship before that scrimmage. 1544 01:08:07,249 --> 01:08:10,219 Now they got on a battleship. 1545 01:08:10,286 --> 01:08:13,289 So you think us beating them or shocking them, like, it played-- 1546 01:08:13,355 --> 01:08:14,990 -it helped them... -Huge. 1547 01:08:15,057 --> 01:08:17,460 ...not just the next day, but for the rest of the journey? 1548 01:08:17,526 --> 01:08:20,262 Yes. That's what I'm saying. 1549 01:08:20,329 --> 01:08:22,598 And, you know, we're all part of history. 1550 01:08:22,665 --> 01:08:23,966 Yeah. 1551 01:08:24,033 --> 01:08:27,002 And that history then changed 1552 01:08:27,069 --> 01:08:32,007 how the US and the world looked at our game. 1553 01:08:32,074 --> 01:08:36,312 So be thankful that you won a scrimmage. 1554 01:08:36,378 --> 01:08:40,783 I'm so happy that you were able to keep 1555 01:08:40,850 --> 01:08:43,519 these, uh, childish dreams. 1556 01:08:43,586 --> 01:08:46,522 -That's funny. -Makes me feel good. 1557 01:08:46,589 --> 01:08:50,559 The jury would already have decided this by now. 1558 01:08:50,626 --> 01:08:53,229 [Overture to The Barber of Seville plays] 1559 01:08:53,295 --> 01:08:54,530 [chuckles] 1560 01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,735 [Jordan] You know, and Chuck... 1561 01:09:00,769 --> 01:09:02,805 people tend to forget that he played, you know, 1562 01:09:02,872 --> 01:09:04,440 some very competitive mind games. 1563 01:09:04,507 --> 01:09:06,942 You know, and me coming from Phil Jackson, 1564 01:09:07,009 --> 01:09:10,246 I kind of understood exactly what he was doing. 1565 01:09:10,312 --> 01:09:13,015 I think it was very gratifying to Chuck 1566 01:09:13,082 --> 01:09:14,717 for us to get our butts beat like that 1567 01:09:14,783 --> 01:09:17,219 because now we had to listen to him. 1568 01:09:17,286 --> 01:09:20,856 But those kids kicked our butts up and down. 1569 01:09:23,125 --> 01:09:24,927 [players shouting] 1570 01:09:27,196 --> 01:09:28,898 [Barkley] We were on spring break, basically, 1571 01:09:28,964 --> 01:09:30,733 and then they kicked our butt. 1572 01:09:31,300 --> 01:09:33,536 After that first day, we realized, like, 1573 01:09:33,602 --> 01:09:35,838 "Guys, if we lose, it's gonna be like 1574 01:09:35,905 --> 01:09:38,107 the biggest upset in sports history." 1575 01:09:38,908 --> 01:09:41,043 [Johnson] Chuck Daly was a master. 1576 01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:43,779 His genius was the fact that he brought 1577 01:09:43,846 --> 01:09:47,650 these young college guys in who he knew was gonna be up 1578 01:09:47,716 --> 01:09:49,451 and sky-high to play against us, 1579 01:09:49,518 --> 01:09:50,920 and they were gonna play hard. 1580 01:09:50,986 --> 01:09:53,389 And he probably knew we were just 1581 01:09:53,455 --> 01:09:55,624 going through the motions a little bit. 1582 01:09:55,691 --> 01:09:57,226 Well, what happened was 1583 01:09:57,293 --> 01:10:00,229 them guys came at us and blew us out 1584 01:10:00,296 --> 01:10:01,797 and really was taking it to us. 1585 01:10:01,864 --> 01:10:05,634 I mean, uh, on all phases of the game. 1586 01:10:05,701 --> 01:10:08,804 We were just, uh... were not into it, 1587 01:10:08,871 --> 01:10:11,006 and we paid for it. 1588 01:10:12,741 --> 01:10:14,009 Those college guys woke us up 1589 01:10:14,076 --> 01:10:16,245 and made us play the way we're used to playing. 1590 01:10:16,312 --> 01:10:17,413 So I want to thank them 1591 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,415 for that butt whooping that they put on us. 1592 01:10:21,317 --> 01:10:22,451 [Jordan] It goes to say 1593 01:10:22,518 --> 01:10:24,119 that you never underestimate your opponent, 1594 01:10:24,186 --> 01:10:28,023 and I think you had 11 Hall of Famers there 1595 01:10:28,090 --> 01:10:30,526 who underestimated these college kids, 1596 01:10:30,593 --> 01:10:33,195 and you never can underestimate your opponent. 1597 01:10:33,262 --> 01:10:34,530 I don't care who they are. 1598 01:10:39,768 --> 01:10:41,604 [sneakers squeaking on court] 1599 01:10:41,670 --> 01:10:44,039 -[whistle blows] -[Daly] Let's just scrimmage. 1600 01:10:45,774 --> 01:10:47,042 [Hill] Looking back, 1601 01:10:47,109 --> 01:10:49,511 there's one thing I know for sure. 1602 01:10:49,578 --> 01:10:52,881 My teammates and I completed our mission. 1603 01:10:52,948 --> 01:10:56,352 We gave the Dream Team the wake-up call they needed, 1604 01:10:56,418 --> 01:10:58,954 and they went on to wake up the world. 1605 01:10:59,021 --> 01:11:02,091 [announcer] Barkley off a beautiful feed from Mullin. 1606 01:11:02,758 --> 01:11:03,892 [camera shutter clicks] 1607 01:11:03,959 --> 01:11:06,362 [music fades] 1608 01:11:06,428 --> 01:11:09,865 [Hill] Meanwhile, our journey was just beginning. 1609 01:11:11,367 --> 01:11:16,305 Good evening, and welcome to the 1993 NBA Draft. 1610 01:11:16,372 --> 01:11:20,909 With the first pick, the Orlando Magic select 1611 01:11:20,976 --> 01:11:23,379 Chris Webber from the University of Michigan. 1612 01:11:23,445 --> 01:11:24,580 [cheering] 1613 01:11:24,647 --> 01:11:26,915 [Hill] As the years passed, my teammates and I 1614 01:11:26,982 --> 01:11:28,684 all got drafted in the first round. 1615 01:11:28,751 --> 01:11:30,953 -[man 1] Anfernee Hardaway... -[man 2] Jamal Mashburn... 1616 01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:33,088 [man 3] Bobby Hurley from Duke University... 1617 01:11:33,155 --> 01:11:35,024 [announcer 1] Hurley gets by Hornacek. 1618 01:11:35,090 --> 01:11:36,659 All the way through, drops to Alaa. 1619 01:11:36,725 --> 01:11:39,261 Beautifully-timed drop pass from Bobby Hurley. 1620 01:11:40,029 --> 01:11:41,397 [announcer 2] Oh, brother! 1621 01:11:41,463 --> 01:11:43,499 [arena announcer] Chris Webber! 1622 01:11:44,033 --> 01:11:46,335 [pensive music playing] 1623 01:11:46,402 --> 01:11:48,804 [announcer 3] Allan Houston, Houston ducks under... 1624 01:11:48,871 --> 01:11:51,607 Got it! With eight tenths left! 1625 01:11:51,674 --> 01:11:55,010 [announcer 4] Sweet redemption for Allan Houston. 1626 01:11:55,077 --> 01:11:57,613 [Hill] Along the way, there were awards... 1627 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,082 [arena announcer] Rodney Rodgers! 1628 01:12:00,149 --> 01:12:01,317 [Hill] All-Star Games... 1629 01:12:01,383 --> 01:12:03,752 [announcer 5] Finding Mashburn open for three. 1630 01:12:04,253 --> 01:12:07,556 Jamal Mashburn has it stuck on automatic! 1631 01:12:09,191 --> 01:12:11,026 [Hill] And NBA Finals. 1632 01:12:12,428 --> 01:12:14,763 [announcer 6] Penny Hardaway. What a star he is going to be. 1633 01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:16,165 [announcer 7] He has it all. 1634 01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:20,135 [Hill] A few of us even got a chance 1635 01:12:20,202 --> 01:12:21,670 to play in the Olympics... 1636 01:12:21,737 --> 01:12:23,138 [arena announcer] Grant Hill! 1637 01:12:23,205 --> 01:12:25,007 [Hill] ...and win that gold medal. 1638 01:12:25,074 --> 01:12:27,643 [somber string music playing] 1639 01:12:36,051 --> 01:12:38,220 [announcer] Bobby Hurley out of action for Sacramento. 1640 01:12:38,954 --> 01:12:40,889 [Hill] And whether it was injuries 1641 01:12:41,824 --> 01:12:45,227 or just Father Time that brought our careers to an end, 1642 01:12:46,395 --> 01:12:48,630 that week with the Dream Team will go down 1643 01:12:48,697 --> 01:12:51,734 as one of the greatest experiences of our lives. 1644 01:12:56,004 --> 01:12:58,107 [arena announcer] Welcome to Madison Square Garden, 1645 01:12:58,173 --> 01:13:00,209 the world's most famous arena. 1646 01:13:01,443 --> 01:13:03,579 [Houston] The Dream Team is a team 1647 01:13:03,645 --> 01:13:06,281 that no one should ever forget about. 1648 01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:10,652 I know there was a part of us, and we talked about like, 1649 01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:13,822 "Yo, I wonder if this is gonna be us one day." 1650 01:13:13,889 --> 01:13:15,824 And I think as a college player, 1651 01:13:15,891 --> 01:13:17,693 that was really important to know 1652 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,562 that there was a process to their greatness. 1653 01:13:20,629 --> 01:13:23,332 [somber music continues] 1654 01:13:29,838 --> 01:13:31,473 [indistinct yelling] 1655 01:13:33,242 --> 01:13:34,843 [Hurley] I might have peaked that week 1656 01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:36,111 against the Dream Team 1657 01:13:36,178 --> 01:13:38,213 as far as maybe being the best 1658 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,748 that I ever was at basketball. 1659 01:13:39,815 --> 01:13:42,818 Like, I have my pictures with Michael Jordan 1660 01:13:42,885 --> 01:13:45,254 and Magic Johnson up in my office. 1661 01:13:46,021 --> 01:13:48,090 Magic and I connected during that week 1662 01:13:48,157 --> 01:13:49,525 on a point guard level, 1663 01:13:49,591 --> 01:13:50,692 just how... 1664 01:13:50,759 --> 01:13:53,228 So when recruits come through, 1665 01:13:53,295 --> 01:13:56,131 it definitely has helped me here at Arizona State. 1666 01:13:56,198 --> 01:13:58,033 [producer] These are kids that weren't even born. 1667 01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:59,902 Do they even know what happened? 1668 01:13:59,968 --> 01:14:02,137 Well, yeah, they do because when they get here, 1669 01:14:02,204 --> 01:14:05,574 they're gonna have to listen to my stories about it, so... 1670 01:14:05,641 --> 01:14:07,743 [somber music continues] 1671 01:14:17,586 --> 01:14:19,588 [producer] So did that win against the Dream Team 1672 01:14:19,655 --> 01:14:23,425 help ease your pain from the Olympics getting taken away? 1673 01:14:23,492 --> 01:14:24,526 Nah. 1674 01:14:24,593 --> 01:14:26,228 I think what that win did for me was that 1675 01:14:26,295 --> 01:14:28,730 I was capable of playing at the NBA level. 1676 01:14:28,797 --> 01:14:30,999 [announcer] Feeds Mashburn, got bumped, the 360! 1677 01:14:31,066 --> 01:14:32,634 [announcer speaks indistinctly] 1678 01:14:32,701 --> 01:14:34,136 [Mashburn] At the end of the day, 1679 01:14:34,203 --> 01:14:36,371 we were part of the adversity that, 1680 01:14:36,438 --> 01:14:38,740 "Hey, if you guys aren't on your game, 1681 01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:40,242 somebody can take you out." 1682 01:14:40,909 --> 01:14:43,879 I'm glad to be a part of it, but nobody sent me a gold medal 1683 01:14:43,946 --> 01:14:46,548 for-for being the adversity. [chuckles] 1684 01:14:46,615 --> 01:14:48,717 [somber music continues] 1685 01:15:00,262 --> 01:15:01,730 [players yelling indistinctly] 1686 01:15:01,797 --> 01:15:03,298 Shrink the floor! 1687 01:15:04,466 --> 01:15:06,468 [Hardaway] That week being with the Dream Team 1688 01:15:06,535 --> 01:15:08,770 did so much for me mentally. 1689 01:15:08,837 --> 01:15:10,973 It made me want to get out of an adverse situation 1690 01:15:11,039 --> 01:15:12,241 that I was in where I lived, 1691 01:15:12,307 --> 01:15:15,377 because it gave me the start of understanding 1692 01:15:15,444 --> 01:15:16,278 what it was like. 1693 01:15:16,345 --> 01:15:18,247 Everybody on the baseline. 1694 01:15:18,313 --> 01:15:20,449 Everybody on the baseline. Tuck your jerseys in. 1695 01:15:21,383 --> 01:15:23,552 It made me want to live the way that they lived. 1696 01:15:23,619 --> 01:15:25,654 Like, "Man, this is what life is all about. 1697 01:15:25,721 --> 01:15:26,855 I can do this." 1698 01:15:26,922 --> 01:15:29,324 [light, pensive music playing] 1699 01:15:39,234 --> 01:15:42,070 [producer] So, Rodney, is this a fond memory for you? 1700 01:15:42,137 --> 01:15:43,105 Oh, yeah. 1701 01:15:43,171 --> 01:15:44,940 One you'll never forget. 1702 01:15:45,007 --> 01:15:46,842 It's gonna always stick in my head. 1703 01:15:48,176 --> 01:15:50,312 I got a picture of us, 1704 01:15:50,379 --> 01:15:52,714 the guys that they picked from college, 1705 01:15:52,781 --> 01:15:56,852 and, uh, a picture of us with the Dream Team. 1706 01:16:08,463 --> 01:16:10,899 [Webber] Every time I see Rodney Rogers, 1707 01:16:10,966 --> 01:16:13,268 I tell him, "Welcome to the parachute club," 1708 01:16:13,335 --> 01:16:15,237 and he loves it and he hates it 1709 01:16:15,304 --> 01:16:17,539 because, I mean, every, every time. 1710 01:16:20,876 --> 01:16:25,180 It's a time and a context that I find myself, 1711 01:16:25,247 --> 01:16:27,449 you know, constantly romanticizing, 1712 01:16:27,516 --> 01:16:30,485 not that moment of basketball and playing against them, but 1713 01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:35,591 how pure those moments were for all of us eight guys. 1714 01:16:35,657 --> 01:16:37,759 [pensive music continues] 1715 01:16:47,569 --> 01:16:50,005 [Hill] I've done a lot of things in my career, 1716 01:16:51,106 --> 01:16:53,542 but there's nothing like doing this. 1717 01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:54,810 [crowd cheering] 1718 01:16:54,876 --> 01:16:56,712 [Hill] There is a standard 1719 01:16:56,778 --> 01:16:58,847 that's associated with USA Basketball. 1720 01:16:58,914 --> 01:17:01,083 [announcer] Back to Curry. Over the double-team. 1721 01:17:01,149 --> 01:17:02,884 Oh! 1722 01:17:03,685 --> 01:17:06,955 [Hill] As I watch the USA capture another gold medal, 1723 01:17:07,022 --> 01:17:09,291 I carry with me the pride of knowing 1724 01:17:09,358 --> 01:17:12,027 over 30 years ago, me and my teammates, 1725 01:17:12,094 --> 01:17:13,562 me and my friends, 1726 01:17:13,629 --> 01:17:15,130 played a role in helping create 1727 01:17:15,197 --> 01:17:18,467 the greatest basketball team the world has ever seen. 1728 01:17:18,533 --> 01:17:20,969 [crowd roaring] 1729 01:17:21,036 --> 01:17:23,171 [Hill] Oh yeah. And one more thing... 1730 01:17:24,673 --> 01:17:26,174 We beat the Dream Team. 1731 01:17:26,241 --> 01:17:27,442 We beat the Dream Team. 1732 01:17:27,509 --> 01:17:28,677 We beat the Dream Team. 1733 01:17:28,744 --> 01:17:30,646 And they try to say we didn't beat 'em. 1734 01:17:30,712 --> 01:17:31,947 We beat the Dream Team. 1735 01:17:32,014 --> 01:17:34,016 We beat the Dream Team. 1736 01:17:34,850 --> 01:17:37,052 We won, and we beat 'em, 1737 01:17:37,119 --> 01:17:38,787 and it felt good. [chuckles] 1738 01:17:38,854 --> 01:17:41,123 And you can't take that away. You can't. 1739 01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:43,992 I-I was there. I... I know. 1740 01:17:45,494 --> 01:17:48,030 [dramatic orchestral music playing]