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(DRAMATIC ORCHESTRAL MUSIC)
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MICHAEL WOLFF: I've written
three books about Donald Trump.

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It's an incredible story...

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Whether we want it to be or not,
it is the story of our time.

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And, um, if you're a writer,

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I hate to say it,
but he's a God send.

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He's full of mystery.

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How does this guy not be
brought down by all the things

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that always seem
about to bring him down?

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My last book Landslide
finishing with the impeachment

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that followed January 6th
should've been the end of the story.

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Are you ready?

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(READING ALOUD)

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"The age of modern bureaucracy
demands, at the very least,

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being able to sit through a meeting
without barking like a dog."

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TRUMP:
This is a major fraud in our nation.

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We were getting ready
to win this election.

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Frankly, we did win this election.

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(CHEERING)
We did win this election.

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"From the careening
and calamitous last stage

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of his re-election campaign,

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through the preposterous
election challenge

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and the deadly mayhem
of January 6th..."

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We're going to walk down
and I'll be there with you

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because you'll never take back
our country with weakness.

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You have to show strength,
and you have to be strong.

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(INDISTINCT YELLING)

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"..there emerges a much
different picture from the one

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much of the media has painted
of a corrupt, cynical,

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despotic effort to hold on
to power and to subvert democracy.

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Here, instead,
is a far more complicated human

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and political tale
of desperation and delusion.

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It is one that should by any logic
have ended on January 6th."

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We love you.

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We will be back in some form.

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Have a good life.

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We will see you soon.

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"But the most striking
and determinative fact

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of the political age is that
the Trump story continues,

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even in defeat,
to be inspirational to so many,

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and why all Republican roads
now lead to Mar-a-Lago."

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This book came about after
a long sit-down interview with him.

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Trump was in
effective exile in Mar-A-Lago.

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I mean he's been banished.

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The Republican party
has turned against him.

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He hardly has a friend in the world.

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I think, yes.I don't know
how you feel about that.

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I mean, I feel...
I'll put it this way.

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What I'm interested in is
the excitement of the story,

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the fight.
Which is still going on.

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Yes, and what I like about
that period is that you... fought.

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'How do you get anything
out of Donald Trump?

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You know, there's a journalistic
pose here in which

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you might challenge him.

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Or you can take the approach
which I took here,

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which is just to egg him on.'

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(OVER RECORDING) "This is
a big thing that's happened.

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I mean, it's a very
complicated thing.

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Somebody must have been
coordinating this.

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If we find that...

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I mean, we have
so much evidence of voter fraud."

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'At that point in time,
so the spring of 2021,

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it immediately started to seem
possible that he could run again.

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I saw a group of people
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something was coming together.

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I felt a sense of story
that this was a tale to tell.'

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I thought "OK, I should...

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..put my boots back on."

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January 2024.

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(READING ALOUD)

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Trump was irritated by the cold.

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And he was irritated by the hotel,

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invaluably expressing his irritation
to most everyone on his call list.

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He berated his entourage,
"Why are we staying here?

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This place is no good.

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Who picked this place?
Who put us here?"

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Trump was always unhappy
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between his own sheets.

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(READS ALOUD)

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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

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If you have a right ear,
that would be great.

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Your... So, this one? Or right? OK.

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Right-Right ear.

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REPORTER: The filing centre
is already buzzing with activity.

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There are people here
from all across the world.

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All of them looking to see
who Iowa Republicans

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will pick as
their first choice for president,

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and we'll actually get a little
insight into what those results...

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Well, Trump liked it yesterday.

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'Here we are again.'
I'm feeling pretty optimistic.

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'I am now in the midst
of a fourth book

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because this story
continues to go on.

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No one as surprised as I am.'

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Great and what's... How long?

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It'll be about three, four minutes.
Great.

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'I've covered campaigns before,

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that's a fairly
tried and true path.'

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I'm just going to bring in our
US election expert Michael Wolff,

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a journalist and author
of three books on Donald Trump,

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including the worldwide
bestseller Fire and Fury. Michael...

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'But this is different
because there are these trials.'

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Trump is fighting
two different battles.

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One is an...
is an easy battle for him.

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It's-It's...
He's going to get the votes.

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He is getting the votes.

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The other, a much more uncertain
battle, which is in the courts.

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'And this isn't one trial.

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This is multiple trials.

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And it is possible that
they will all come to trial

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before Election Day
a year from now.'

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There have been
four indictments, and, um...

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and all they've done
so far for the Trump campaign

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is given them a boost in the polls

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and a boost in the amount of money
that they've... that they've raised.

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'The stakes here for Donald Trump
could not be higher.

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It is very possible
that he will be convicted,

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he will lose, and he will go to jail
for the rest of his life.'

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I do think that
he surrounds himself in chaos

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and we can't be
a country in disarray

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and have a world on fire,
and be in chaos.

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I do think that
these court cases are distracting.

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'Nikki Haley is certainly hoping
it presents an opportunity.'

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He's trying to bully me
and anyone who supports me.

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'She has come
to represent that isolated

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outer edge of the Republican Party,

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who sees Donald Trump
as morally unacceptable.'

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Well, I've dealt with
bullies my entire life.

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They don't intimidate me.

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They only motivate me further.

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And I never met a bully
I couldn't take on.

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How close would Nikki Haley
have to get for you to think

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that she does have a whisper
of a chance in this race?

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You know,
I don't think that there is.

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I mean unless she...
unless there was...

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there was an upset which
everyone would find unimaginable.

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I don't think that she
has-has a chance. Um...

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'I don't think anybody has quite
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Donald Trump is a fait accompli.

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You know, anybody could win.

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Who knows what's gonna happen?'

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When it's very,
very clear what's gonna happen.

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There's only one thing.

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There has only been one person...

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..since the Republican party,
since 2016.

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I just had a push.

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ANNOUNCER:
CNN projects that Donald Trump

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will win the Iowa caucuses.

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CNN can make this projection
based on his overwhelming...

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(CHUCKLES)

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And they get paid for that?

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'Everybody has misunderstood
this Trump phenomenon.

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They haven't been
able to explain it, certainly.

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And I'm not saying that
I have any better explanation,

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but what I'm saying is that
you can, I think,

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begin to understand more about what
he is by the people who enable him.'

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(APPLAUSE)

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TRUMP: I want to thank Susie,
I have to say, and Chris.

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Chris, they want no accolades.
They just want a victory,

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and they want to make
America great again.

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That's all they want, actually.
They don't wanna be speaking.

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They don't wanna have pictures.

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They just want
to do their job, right?

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I want to thank you very much,
Jason, everybody.

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You're really fantastic.

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'You have no idea
what kind of life this is.

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I mean, it's just the worst
possible life to do what they do...

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..tending to someone who basically
doesn't listen to you.

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Remember, the job is if you're good
at this, the job is just to win.

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Just think of it as anyone
in the marketing business.'

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When you have to sell the product,

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you seem to believe in the product,
and you say all the right things

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that you have to about the product,
and then you leave the office

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or go out and you go,
"Oh, my God, what a piece of shit."

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MAN: To someone like you?

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To someone like me. Yes.

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'The people around Donald Trump,

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I don't think that they
have any illusions.

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They believe that Joe Biden can do
very little to win this race.'

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That is not the fight
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'But they believe that
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an awful lot to lose this race.

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They're not worried about Joe Biden,

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they're worried about
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'The interesting thing about
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there is a core group of

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reasonable professionals
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And there are
three principal players.

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There's Chris LaCivita.'

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I have a T-shirt that says
"I'm probably lying".

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(CHUCKLES)
I wear that occasionally

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to meetings with the press.
(LAUGHS)

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'And the only measure
of their success is to win.

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If that means embracing
something they don't believe in,

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well, they'll do that.'

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TRUMP:

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The president wants the best.
You know, who's the best?

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Well, I am.

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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

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There's another,
a man by the name Jason Miller.

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I think we saw tonight

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was someone who's ready
to go back to the Oval Office.

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Who's ready to get
this country turned around.

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Who's ready
to save America once again.

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'In 2016,
he got a campaign staffer pregnant

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awkwardly at the same time
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This resulted in
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and the only person who didn't
seem to mind this was Donald Trump.'

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I will always accept
the results of an honest election.

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'And so he went
back to work for the campaign.'

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This one's different.
This one's much more personal.

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This is very much a sense
of unfinished business.

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If we don't save the US now,

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we don't know if the country's
ever gonna look the same.

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'And the third person is a woman
by the name of Susie Wiles.

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She's run campaigns, and she's
from a political family in Florida.'

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We complement each other
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I'm the gas, she's the brakes.

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Let's go, everybody.

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'Their skill set is tactical.

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Whatever is the path to victory.'

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(TRAFFIC HUMMING)

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(DOOR RATTLING, SLIDING)

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(DISTANT SIREN BLARING)

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MAN: (OVER RECORDING)

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'Hardly a day passes without
somebody from Trump world calling me

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with a phone call that
will invariably start:

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"you won't believe it".

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'People do like their say.

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They do like to represent
their experience without fear

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that it will show up
in the paper the next day.

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What I say shows up
quite a number of months later,

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and I've been
very trustworthy to these people.

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I don't reveal who my sources are.

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And the benefit is
I'm telling you things that

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you would not know otherwise.'

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All I do is cook and write.

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That's it. That's it.

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And shop for the food that
he's gonna cook.

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I gotta shop, too.
Gotta shop.

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Nothing else.

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I would say it's very satisfying
to cook and feed my family,

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but my children hate my food, so.

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Eat.

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What are the headlines?

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Mm... Not exactly any headlines.

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Can you believe that we're going
to the Rockettes tomorrow?

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Well, I have a 9:40 Jitney.

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We're gonna...
Yeah, we're gonna say goodbye.

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Yep.

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The camera guy's coming with you?

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Yes, cos I'm posing as a...
as a writer.

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Who needs to take
a break from his family.

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In a country house.
The writer has to go and...

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for seclusion.
He wants to be alone.

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Yes. Which is not...

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..in fact, true.

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I don't like to be alone.

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But... for the cinema.

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You're not gonna make it-
You're gonna be like,

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"Don't have enough paper towels."

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You don't?
No, I don't know. I sure I do.

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But I'm coming back on Sunday.

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(BIRDS SQUAWKING)
(GENTLE MUSIC)

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'Trump made three trips
to New Hampshire,

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growing more and more irritated
with the other woman, Nikki Haley,

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who is gaining attention

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and preparing to make money
off of his name.

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She was in this not to win, but just
to be the last person against him.

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How did I walked into
Donald Trump's world?

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In a sense, I guess,
we all ask ourselves that question.

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As it happened,
I knew Donald Trump from New York.

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For a long period of time,
I wrote a column about the media

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for New York magazine.

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I became one of the people
at the magazine who he would call up

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to complain about
what was written about him,

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or more often than not, complain
when we did not write about him.'

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You're going to have to start
pushing these people now

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a little bit cos it's getting
a little ridiculous

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as far as I'm concerned.
So, just start pushing,

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and start
pushing as hard as possible.

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'So, I got along fairly well
with Donald Trump.'

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(LAUGHS) You love me, you love me.
Yes! Yes!

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That's nice, I love you too.
Oh, my God, thank you.

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'Years forward,
you know, he becomes this...

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this extraordinary
television star,

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um, and then he starts
to run for president.'

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Let's get inside.
I gotta go back to work.

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I still gotta work. Bye everybody.

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One more, one more.
But then, in February or March

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of 2016, I was writing a column
for The Hollywood Reporter,

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and the editor
had called me and said,

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do you want to interview Trump?

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Um...

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Um...
And I was like, well, you know,

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that-that could be amusing.

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'It was not a hate story,
but it was...

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it was a critical story,
I was making fun of him.

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And his response was "great cover".

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I have no idea
if he ever even read the article.

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It didn't make any difference.
He liked the cover.

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That then provided me with
the entree to keep going on this,

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because from that point on,

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the story really kept getting
bigger and bigger and bigger.

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And I kept putting off
doing everything else,

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like taking my family on vacation.
because the end was coming.

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Election Day would be the end.

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There would be
no more Donald Trump.'

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And then 8:30 on election night...

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CNN can report that
Hillary Clinton

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has called Donald Trump
to concede the race.

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And that's when I made
the proposal, I said,

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"Why don't I come
into the White House

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and write about the first...

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the first hundred days?"

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REPORTER:
It's flying out of bookstores

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and into the national consciousness.

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It's number one on both the New York
Times and Amazon bestseller list.

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'I think when my book
Fire and Fury came out,

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a lot of people thought
this was bad for him,

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that actually, my book could
contribute to bringing him down.'

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I consider it a work of fiction,
and I think it's a disgrace that

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somebody is able to have
something... do something like that.

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'Obviously, that didn't happen.

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So, you might then reasonably ask,
did this book help him?

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It somehow turned the chaos
into something recognisable.'

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I mean, he doesn't look like
up close like anyone

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you have ever seen before.
(LAUGHTER)

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'And then when chaos
is recognisable,

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you can make the argument
that it's no longer chaos.

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And, um...

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I don't know how I feel about that.'

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(UPBEAT STRING MUSIC)

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REPORTER: Michael Wolff's
first book on the Trump White House
was an international sensation

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that garnered plenty of controversy.
His follow up book is also being

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criticized largely about sourcing.

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You have, frankly,
frauds like Michael Wolff

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publishing without making
any efforts to fact check,

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um, fiction under
the banner of non-fiction.

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I find that I'm a fairly polarizing
figure among many journalists,

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and I try to sometimes make
the distinction I'm not

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principally a journalist,
I'm principally a writer.

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Pardon me.

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'My function is
to describe what I see.'

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REPORTER:: This idea that as
a reporter you have your one source,

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and you believe them credible enough
when you not even going to give

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the other side the luxury of hearing
what you're about to publish.

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What strikes me as odd about Wolff
is that he says

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because he doesn't work for,
say, The Washington Post,

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or The Atlantic, or The Daily Beast,
he doesn't have to do that,

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as though reporters
are only calling for comment

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because of the dictates of
the institution they work for,

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as opposed to it just
being ethically sound thing to do.

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Usually, after a book
comes out everybody says,

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"Well, who are your sources?" Um...

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And I say, "Well, I can't
tell you who my sources are,"

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and there's a kind of
jostling about that.

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And it's usually from
other journalists,

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I mean, I don't find readers saying,
"Who's your sources?"

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(APPLAUSE)

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INTERVIEWER: You frequently
depend on single source accounts.

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How do you gauge the trust
worthiness of some of

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these folks that you're talking to,
especially when the environment

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that they are working in
so "back stab-y"?

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You-You know, I know these people.

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I mean,
you know the people who are...

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who are reliable.

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And there have been some people,
um, in some instances that prove

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not to be reliable,
but you get rid of them, um...

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And, um, and-and you...

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you continue on with, at this point,
the people who-who brought you.

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(APPLAUSE)
'I have no agenda.

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I have no point. I have
no political axe to grind here.

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I am just looking for
this incredible story to unfold.'

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Let me have the prosciutto cotto
and Swiss cheese.

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00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:01,640
Um, I want a, um...

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A skimmed milk cappuccino.

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Everything is to go?

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Everything... Um, no, no, here.
OK.

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Yeah, here is great.

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Uh, that will be...

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'Recently, Nikki Haley
ended her campaign.'

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HALEY: The time has now come
to suspend my campaign.

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And although I will
no longer be a candidate,

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I will not stop using my voice
for the things I believe in.

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Donald Trump will be the Republican
nominee, I congratulate him.

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'So, there is now nothing standing
in a way of Trump's nomination.'

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You've had two things that
have gone on for the past year.

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You've had this campaign
for the Republican nomination,

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and then you've had this...

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this legal battle,
this legal onslaught

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um, and the...

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the race for the Republican
nomination has been

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hands down successful.
I mean... I mean, over...

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I don't think that there's
ever been an example in which

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a candidate has been as successful

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as quickly as Donald Trump has been.

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00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,840
And at the same time,
flip the coin around,

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and you have one indictment,
two indictments,

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three indictments,
four indictments.

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There're so many cases,
they all roll together as one.

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Um, you could barely find
a man on the street,

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you can barely find people
in the campaign

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to, kind of,
make the distinctions, you know,

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"This is the, um..."

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You know,
"This is the Hush Money case,

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this is the Boxes Document case,

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this is The January 6th case,
this is The Atlanta case."

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Which is...
Nobody knows what's going on there.

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'And of course, his central
legal strategy has been delay,

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and it's worked out very well.'

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It turns out
if you have enough lawyers,

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they'll just keep making motions
after motions after motions

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to push these cases
and keep pushing them,

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um, except that now one has fallen
through the cracks and it is here.

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It's a little disruptive, you know.

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I mean, it's...

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(GENTLE ORCHESTRAL MUSIC)

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REPORTER: Happening today,
former President Trump's historic

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New York Hush Money trial begins,
making him the first ever

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former president to stand
for a criminal trial.

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'Because all the other
trials Trump has managed

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to push beyond the election.

429
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,160
This trial kind of comes
to stand in for all of them.

430
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And the campaign teams
worry about this.

431
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:03,680
You know, to be convicted
of a felony might have

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psychic implications for many, many,
many voters that are unanticipated.

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00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,440
It's all part of an elaborate
effort not to face him

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on the ballot box in November.

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00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,640
And look, it won't be over.

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00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,320
Even when he wins,

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00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,880
it's not going to be over till
he takes the oath of office.

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00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,400
At this point in the campaign,
we're not in a battle run state,

439
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,160
we're not in Michigan,
we're not in Pennsylvania,

440
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240
we're not in Wisconsin,
we're in New York.

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00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160
Why are we in New York?
Because President Trump is on trial.

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00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,440
Much rather be on the campaign
trail, but we're stuck here.

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This sham prosecution,
this insanity,

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00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200
this abomination has to stop now.

445
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,200
If this case happened
four years ago,

446
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you'd have had The Rock,
you'd have had Cardi B.

447
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,840
Instead, they have Robert De Niro in
a mask, limping his way to a stage,

448
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,960
getting shouted down
by New Yorkers in his own town.

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00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,480
I mean, this is really...

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Even these people
over here are kinda...

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(INDISTINCT DISTANT SHOUTS)

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It's kind of crazy.

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00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,680
They lost the pop culture that
the Democrats had because

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the situation they've created
over the last four years is so bad.

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00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,720
It's so palpable.

456
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
MAN: We love you, Trump!
We love you!

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00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,560
We're for you, Trump!

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00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760
'Many Democrats have felt that
this would seriously

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handicap his ability to campaign.

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00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,040
But with these trials, essentially,
he brings the campaign to himself.

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00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,880
Nobody else is gonna be
interested in anything

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but what is happening
in these courtrooms.

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00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,200
It will be all about Donald Trump.'

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And does the system
destroy Donald Trump,

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or does Donald Trump
destroy the system?

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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

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REPORTER: Stormy on the stand.

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00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,720
The next witness in the Trump trial
will be Stormy Daniels.

469
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960
She is expected to testify,
of course,

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about getting paid off
by Michael Cohen to keep

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her alleged affair with
the former president secret.

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(READING ALOUD)

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(GAVEL BANGS)
STORMY: As much as I didn't want

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to get up there and face that,
the only thing that

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I could think of being worse is
if the prosecution didn't call me.

476
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,600
Public perception of that would
have been they didn't trust her.

477
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,040
She's not credible.

478
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,200
And that's just something
that I wasn't willing.

479
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,080
I'd rather get shot at
than have everybody think,

480
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880
"Oh, wow, she's the star witness
and they decided not to call her."

481
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640
But nothing can really prepare you.
It's intense.

482
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,080
The trial was about
campaign finance violations,

483
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,480
you know, paperwork, boring stuff.

484
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320
Um, but the press, the media,

485
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920
the public continued,
and would not stop calling it

486
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,640
the Stormy Daniels Hush Money Trial,
which is not what it was.

487
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,760
The problem with that is that
lead everyone to attack me.

488
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,560
She's a little off this woman.

489
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,280
And to subject this jury
to the testimony that

490
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760
they had to listen to that is
totally irrelevant, not probative,

491
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,920
and prejudicial in this case.

492
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,280
And she acts like what she is.
They were like, "Why did you have

493
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,400
to talk about his penis?"
Now, we all know that

494
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,160
if I was lying, he would have
dropped his pants a long time ago

495
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,320
or gotten a doctor's note.

496
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,760
Or has Melania been like,
"She's wrong.

497
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560
I know what my husband's genitals
look like, and that's not it"?

498
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Nope, not a peep.
Cos she knows I'm telling the truth.

499
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,360
Susan Necheles
sought to shame Stormy Daniels,

500
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,640
not just to her face,
but in front of the jurors

501
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,040
to say, "This porn star slut
isn't telling the truth."

502
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,680
His attorney came up,
and she was a fucking bitch.

503
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,680
She tried to, like, slut shame me.

504
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800
I mean, read the testimony.

505
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,200
Like it is next level.
But then I was like, "Game on".

506
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800
I don't start fights,
but I do finish them.

507
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560
REPORTER:
Stormy Daniels kept her cool today.

508
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160
I actually thought she performed
better on cross-examination

509
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,080
than she did on direct examination.

510
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,840
She answered the questions.
She was careful. She was listening.

511
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,960
She was thoughtful.
So, I don't think it will work.

512
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,400
She said, "Well, you're used
to making up stories

513
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,280
because you write porn."

514
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200
I mean, it is so offensive.
And then she was like,

515
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,960
"You are just
making money off of this.

516
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,480
Like you signed autographs."
I'm like, "So does he!"

517
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,280
At least I'm signing
autographs of the books I wrote.

518
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800
This motherfucker
is signing copies of the Bible.

519
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,360
I looked right at him.

520
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400
He just...

521
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560
You know. He just muttered.

522
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,520
He spoke, maybe...
I could hear him muttering,

523
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400
but I don't know what it was,
but he doesn't intimidate me.

524
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,480
REPORTER: It's almost as if Trump

525
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,320
and the lawyers who he is
directing to a certain extent,

526
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,240
and we've seen that, are mad at her

527
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840
for trying to, kind of,
take back her power.

528
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,120
If I could barely handle this,

529
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,520
I don't think there's another person
in the entire world that could have.

530
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,200
I was the perfect storm,
pun intended,

531
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120
because I don't have a family
that could have been threatened.

532
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,720
I don't have a mainstream job
that I could have lost.

533
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,280
You know what I mean? Like what...

534
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,160
How are you going to shame me
after doing porn for so long?

535
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Somebody else could have been hurt

536
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,880
so much more seriously
than I could have.

537
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040
There could've been
so much more collateral damage.

538
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,960
You can't imagine
this has been easy for her,

539
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,080
but she yet withstood
this under fire.

540
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,080
A lot of fire.

541
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,560
It was all about trying
to undermine her credibility.

542
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,440
And I would say they didn't succeed,
and they may have failed miserably.

543
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Yes, how are you?

544
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,240
No, I can't. I need...

545
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160
I need one of those. I just...

546
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,040
So, it's as I explained, you know,

547
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,920
I'm just having dinner
with somebody, and I can't...

548
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,160
We can't be spotted.

549
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,760
OK. So, I have to...

550
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,720
OK. I'll have to find
some other place then. Um...

551
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,360
OK, bye.

552
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Oh, damn.

553
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,920
Yeah. Hi, it's Michael Wolff,

554
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,360
and I wonder if I can get
a reservation for 8:45?

555
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,640
But the catch is, I need that...

556
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400
the table, the hidden table
at the back.

557
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,400
OK. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

558
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,280
I am sneaking out
to have dinner with...

559
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,720
..a-a close...
someone in the close Trump circle...

560
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,840
..who will tell me what is...

561
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,680
what has been going on
for the last several days.

562
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,160
Thanks.
You're welcome.

563
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000
(DISTANT SIREN BLARING)

564
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,760
'This story that I'm trying to tell
really depends upon people

565
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,120
willing to tell you
all kinds of stuff

566
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,880
that they should not tell you
in any way.'

567
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,960
(TRAFFIC HUMMING)

568
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,680
The message was that Trump
is really beating up his lawyers.

569
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,040
I guess this gets to the point
of just borders on abuse.

570
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,040
"You're drawing her out
and keeping her on the stand.

571
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,960
She's a lying scumbag,
and I never had sex with her,

572
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,880
and you keep letting her say I did."

573
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,960
(READING ALOUD)

574
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,240
"You're losing it completely.

575
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,680
You're making her look sympathetic.

576
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,920
She's a scumbag,
and you're making her look good.

577
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,640
Do you know that's what
you're doing? Do you see that?

578
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,440
Everybody else sees that.

579
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600
How can you not see that?"

580
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,280
(DRAMATIC ORCHESTRAL MUSIC)

581
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,680
(GENTLE MUSIC)

582
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,640
REPORTER:
The jury in the Donald Trump

583
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,440
criminal hush money trial
has reached a verdict.

584
00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,840
Count one, guilty.

585
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,080
Count two, guilty.

586
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Count three, guilty.

587
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,360
REPORTER 2: We're hearing
guilty on one through five.

588
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,760
One through 12 we have now,
13, 14, guilty.

589
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Guilty on all 34 felony counts.

590
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,120
That is the verdict
here in this case.

591
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,320
I was sitting on the sofa
with my daughter

592
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,800
and I was just sobbing.

593
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,480
TRUMP: 'This was a rigged,
disgraceful trial.

594
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,520
And the real verdict is going
to be November 5th by the people.'

595
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,800
And we'll keep fighting.
We'll fight till the end

596
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,280
and we'll win because
our country's gone to hell.

597
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,720
We don't have
the same country anymore.

598
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,440
We have a divided mess.

599
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,400
(INDISTINCT ARGUING)

600
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,760
And we will fight
for our Constitution.

601
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,880
This is long from over.
Thank you very much.

602
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,000
(REPORTER SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY)

603
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040
These people are all scumbags.
They're all the scum of the earth.

604
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,920
And what we are doing now
is we created a brand new wave.

605
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,440
I can't wait for November 5th

606
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,160
cos now you're gonna see
a guaranteed win.

607
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,160
(BIRDS CHIRPING)

608
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,280
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

609
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,240
Is that awkward?
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

610
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,920
OK.

611
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Three things going on.

612
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,360
First, it's really a question for
him and for the people around him

613
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,640
how he converts this loss,

614
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,760
catastrophic loss, into victory.

615
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,080
So, he's just been convicted
after six weeks in court,

616
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,360
he's lost resoundingly, but he went
from court to a fundraiser,

617
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,040
and then there was
a Daily Mail pole,

618
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,600
which put him up six points.

619
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,280
You see the boom
that came from that.

620
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,040
You know, he-he got convicted on 34
counts and his popularity goes up.

621
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,880
He raises $400 million
in less than a week.

622
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,680
And he had a $100 million
from big tech Silicon Valley.

623
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,120
You know, these are people
who in 2020 would have

624
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,960
lined up behind Joe Biden.
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

625
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,080
I'm thrilled to be back
in the city I grew up in,

626
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,880
the city I spent my life in,
the city I helped build,

627
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,760
and the city that we all love,
New York City.

628
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,520
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
He's just a fighter.

629
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,720
Once he's in the game,
he doesn't stop. He's an animal.

630
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,360
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

631
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,240
This is the first of two debates,

632
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,200
the first direct match up,
Joe Biden versus Donald Trump.

633
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,320
This is being billed
as make or break.

634
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,600
Trump's still slightly ahead in...

635
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,840
in several key swing states,
but slightly.

636
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,800
This is a big moment.

637
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,480
The Trump campaign
has defined Joe Biden as senile.

638
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,720
So, a moment of
bewildered equivocation

639
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960
could be devastating to him.

640
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,240
But in Trump's mind it's,

641
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,160
"We can't go too hard on Joe Biden,

642
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:32,000
because if we do,
that will encourage the Democrats

643
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,880
to replace him, and Joe Biden

644
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560
is the weakest person
he could run against."

645
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,280
ANNOUNCER: (ON VIDEO)
Donald Trump for President, again.

646
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960
I'm Donald Trump
and I approve this message.

647
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,760
Chili dog?

648
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,440
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

649
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,080
Can I get a plain hot dog, um,

650
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,560
a seltzer, sparkling water,
and French fries?

651
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,520
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

652
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,520
Is this the look we're going for?

653
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,760
'All of these debates, there is
really very little point to them.'

654
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520
We invented this as a media form.

655
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,080
Essentially, you have these people
going, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

656
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,320
We discuss tonight domestic issues.

657
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,880
And it's largely without meaning,
largely without detail.

658
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,600
There is no question but that
this nation cannot stand still.

659
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,920
Incredibly boring.

660
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,520
I think we can save money
through this whole

661
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,400
very sophisticated concept, Andrea,
that I know you do understand,

662
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,360
of competitive strategies.

663
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,640
And then a guy comes along
who does this for a living.

664
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,920
He's a reality television star
and producer.

665
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,920
You've called women
you don't like fat pigs,

666
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,480
dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals.

667
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,680
Your Twitter account-
Only Rosie O'Donnell.

668
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,360
(LAUGHTER)

669
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,640
No, it wasn't.

670
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,920
I mean, that is actually the moment
when everybody should have known

671
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,400
that something profound had
changed in American political life.

672
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,120
I don't, frankly, have time
for total political correctness.

673
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,960
INTERVIEWER:

674
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,480
You know, I mean, on...

675
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,360
You know, on one hand, let me...

676
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,240
let me confess,
I am grateful for there

677
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,920
to be something worth looking at

678
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,160
and listening to,
and something to wake me up.

679
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Um, I mean,
the fact that this is a...

680
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,360
..a monster. I mean,
monsters are, you know, reliable...

681
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,200
um, reliable showstoppers. Um...

682
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,560
Donald Trump walking into this
suddenly brings life

683
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,880
back to something
that was completely dead.

684
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Um, now, if it's a...

685
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,040
if that's, you know,
a weird life and a, um...

686
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,880
..um, and a kind of a sick life,
and, you know...

687
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,720
Yeah, but it's at least life.

688
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,160
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

689
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Hey. How are you?
I just want to introduce myself.

690
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.

691
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,440
Um, are you writing
another book or...

692
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080
No I... Who knows?
It's always like...

693
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,720
There's something.
Yeah.There's always something,

694
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,280
Well, good to see you.
Just wanted to say hi.

695
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Very nice meeting you.

696
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,320
WOMAN: Governor, why is Donald Trump
doing so well in the polls then?

697
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,280
I mean, he's doing...
I guess he's doing fine.

698
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,640
We have a divided country.

699
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,920
Donald Trump believes that if
Joe Biden falls on his face tonight,

700
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,800
that the likelihood is that he would
be replaced by Governor Newsom.

701
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,280
So, the possibilities
of that are giving Newsom

702
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,480
the biggest crowds so far.

703
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,080
So, I'm not...
I'm just not of that mindset.

704
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,360
I mean, nobody really
believes that Joe Biden

705
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,360
can be replaced at this point,
even if disaster strikes.

706
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,000
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

707
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,320
LACIVITA: We felt that
the White House would ensure that

708
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Biden would have whatever
was medically available

709
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,880
to get him through an hour
and a half of standing up

710
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,680
and going toe to toe
with President Trump.

711
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,880
We actually said that
there should be a drug test,

712
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,960
um, and you throw out
things like that

713
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,480
to draw attention, "Oh,
what are they going to give him?

714
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,600
ANNOUNCER: We want to welcome
our viewers in the United States

715
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,800
and around the world
to our studios in Atlanta.

716
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,040
This is the CNN presidential debate.

717
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Now, please welcome the 46th

718
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520
president of
the United States, Joe Biden.

719
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,120
(DIALOGUE MUTED)

720
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,600
'Joe Biden crept unsteadily,

721
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,800
his balance gravely
in doubt up to the lectern.

722
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,200
The immediate signal
could hardly be misread.

723
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Whoever had conceived of
this debate as a viable platform

724
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,920
had made a woeful gamble.

725
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560
More than 50 million
people were tuned in,

726
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,480
and there were few who could
not see the trouble ahead.

727
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,440
Except for Trump.

728
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,000
From where he was entering,
he couldn't see it.

729
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,680
Sauntering in with
his usual ready for bare face,

730
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:11,480
he had yet no idea that the game
was already in radical transition.'

731
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,520
Gentlemen, thanks so much for
being here. Let's begin the debate.

732
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,200
And let's start with the issue
that voters consistently say

733
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,840
is their top concern, the economy.

734
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,920
We're going to take a look at what
I was left when I became president.

735
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,520
'He was concentrating
on his own opening

736
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,360
and hardly listening to Biden's
first catastrophic responses.

737
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,160
He thought he had heard Biden claim

738
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,360
that he had created
15,000 new jobs...

739
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,960
..15,000 new jobs...

740
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,520
..instead of 15 million,
but assumed he'd heard wrong.

741
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040
Within minutes of the start,
no one was listening

742
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,000
to what Joe Biden was saying,
or trying to say.

743
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
It was all just unremitting

744
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,720
an excruciating spectacle,
and riveting.

745
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Making sure they were able to make
every single solitary person...

746
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,480
(STAMMERS) ..eligible for
what I've been able to do

747
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,120
with the Covid... (STAMMERS)

748
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,000
..excuse me, with, um, dealing with
everything we have to do with, uh...

749
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,680
Look, if...

750
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,560
We finally beat Medicare.

751
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,000
Thank you, President Biden.
President Trump?

752
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Well, he's right. He did beat
Medicare. He beat it to death.

753
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,640
'Trump,
concentrating on his own remarks,

754
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,320
was only slowly understanding
that Biden was performing weakly.'

755
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,120
Now, you're in a situation
where there are 40% fewer people

756
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160
coming across the border illegally.

757
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,000
That's better than
when he left office.

758
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,320
And I'm going to continue
to move until we get the total ban

759
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,200
on the... the total
initiative relative to what

760
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,640
we're going to do with
more border patrol

761
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,720
and more asylum officers.
President Trump?

762
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,360
I really don't know what he said
at the end of that sentence.

763
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,800
I don't think he knows
what he said either. Look...

764
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,200
we had the safest border
in the history of our country.

765
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,280
The border...
All he had to do was leave it.

766
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,520
'It was at least 20 minutes in,
those crucial first 20 minutes...

767
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,760
..before he understood
what was certainly clear

768
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,840
to most of the vast audience.

769
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,880
This might be the most bewildering
moment that had ever occurred

770
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,920
to a presidential debater.

771
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,880
This wasn't a mess up.

772
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,760
This was human pathos.

773
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,840
Joe Biden was sundowning
before 50 million people.'

774
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,120
We are failing nation, but it's
not gonna be failing anymore.

775
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,160
We're gonna make it great again.

776
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,840
WOMAN: Thank you, former
President Trump, President Biden.

777
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,200
Stay with us because we have
full analysis of this debate.

778
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Yikes.

779
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,000
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

780
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,240
LACIVITA:
Look, there's gonna be a lot of talk

781
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,840
because there are so many
political experts on Twitter, right?

782
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,160
My God, it's just filled...

783
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,640
What you have here
are people waiting for, um...

784
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,320
waiting for someone
to come out and defend Joe Biden.

785
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,840
And no one is coming out
and defending Joe Biden.

786
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,480
Uh, so, this is now entirely
a Republican spin room.

787
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,280
I think at the end of this,
we're gonna have to, like,

788
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,360
identify Joe Biden by his dental
records he was bludgeoned so badly.

789
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,720
He was drooling on himself,

790
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,960
half the time he had
his mouth open, catching flies.

791
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,600
I don't envy my Democratic friends
here who've had to stand here

792
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,720
and try to defend Joe Biden's debate
performance, which was disastrous.

793
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,360
Here's the problem...

794
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160
My God. Um...

795
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Well, let's go...

796
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,400
'I don't know what happens now.

797
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,520
I mean,
I'm shocked by the whole thing.'

798
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,160
Right now, as we speak,
there is a deep,

799
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,680
a wide, and a very aggressive
panic in the Democratic Party.

800
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:39,840
It started minutes into the debate,
and it continues right now.

801
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,120
And they're having conversations
about the president's performance,

802
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,720
which they think was dismal,
and they're having conversations

803
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,160
about what they should do about it.

804
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,640
REPORTER: Would you prefer
Joe Biden to stay on the ticket,

805
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,040
or is there somebody else?

806
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,680
Joe Biden is not...
Joe Biden is not going anywhere.

807
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,360
The only way Joe Biden
is dumped off the ticket

808
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,680
is if he voluntarily
decides he's not going to do it,

809
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:01,960
and he's not going to make
that decision.

810
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,720
Thank you. Thanks, guys.

811
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,680
You know, I think,
OK, you know, this is...

812
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,200
how does this...
how does this disrupt the narrative?

813
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:12,840
My narrative.

814
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,480
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

815
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,120
(SOMBRE MUSIC)

816
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,560
REPORTER: That was painful.
He didn't do well at all.

817
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,720
Uh, he...

818
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,440
He did not do well at all.
REPORTER 2: You cannot tell me

819
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,800
democracy is on the line
and then give that performance.

820
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,400
Based on that, in 18 weeks,

821
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,920
Donald Trump will be
the president elect.

822
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,920
REPORTER 3:
President Biden is facing calls

823
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,520
to drop his bid for re-election.

824
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,160
That's after his debate performance
against Donald Trump.

825
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,080
REPORTER 4:
The next few days will be critical

826
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:55,040
if he's to salvage his imploding
campaign and convince America...

827
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,920
'This becomes the story.

828
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,880
Biden and the Democrats have
occupied the media now

829
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,880
for a steady two weeks.

830
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,040
And for the Trump campaign,
this is their greatest fear,

831
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,600
when someone else becomes the story.

832
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,280
They don't know what to do.'

833
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,920
During the campaign, one of
Trump's people said to me, um,

834
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,840
"Our only matrix is attention.

835
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,560
Good, bad doesn't make
any difference.

836
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,320
The more attention we get,
the more the numbers go up."

837
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,640
He is the mover.
By dominating the media,

838
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,840
he dominates the election.

839
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,560
And suddenly he's lost all that.

840
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,280
Who wants to hear
about Donald Trump

841
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,920
when you have this
Shakespearean drama being worked out

842
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,640
in the Democratic Party?

843
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,800
Everybody's looking at
their news feed.

844
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,320
Has Biden resigned? Is it over?

845
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,640
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

846
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,440
REPORTER: Hi, Shannon.
A very hot day here in

847
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,680
the swing state of Pennsylvania,
but that didn't stop

848
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:16,280
these massive crowds
behind us from showing up here

849
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,360
to try and catch a glimpse of
the former president on that stage

850
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,800
here in Butler, Pennsylvania,

851
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,080
before he heads
to Milwaukee for the RNC.

852
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,560
(CROWD CHANTING "USA!")

853
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,000
If you wanna really see
something that's sad,

854
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,880
take a look at what happened-
(GUNSHOTS)

855
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,160
(WOMAN SHRIEKS)
MAN: Get down! Get down!

856
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,000
(GUNFIRE)
(CROWD SCREAMING)

857
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,160
Hold, hold.
When you're ready. On you.

858
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,240
(INDISTINCT SHOUTING)
Move! Move!

859
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,600
(GUNSHOT)
(WOMAN SCREAMS)

860
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,800
Sir, we've gotta move.
WOMAN: Oh, my God. Oh, my God!

861
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,440
Let me get my shoes!
How many shots was that?

862
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,880
Shield!
Watch out.

863
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,280
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

864
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,840
(TENSE MUSIC)
(CROWD CHEERING)

865
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,200
REPORTER: The FBI is
investigating the shooting at

866
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,320
Saturday's Trump rally as
an assassination attempt.

867
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,400
The former president appeared
to be hit but is OK.

868
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,320
Three men in the crowd were shot...
REPORTER 2: These are not only

869
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,880
the images that are
seared into the minds of Americans.

870
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,920
These are the images
that are now going to fuel

871
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,680
Donald Trump's campaign.
An image of the former president,

872
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:50,720
the presumptive Republican nominee,

873
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,800
bloodied with his fist
up in the air,

874
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,640
surrounded by Secret Service agents

875
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,600
as he's rushed down those stairs
and into that armoured vehicle

876
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,560
where he went to
a local hospital for treatment.

877
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,160
The former president moving forward
full steam ahead with plans

878
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,480
to attend the Republican
National Convention tonight.

879
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,280
And President Biden
promised every single resource

880
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,400
necessary to ensure the safety
of former President Donald Trump.

881
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,880
(CROWD CHANTING "Trump!")

882
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,480
(CROWD CHANTING "USA!")

883
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,160
(CHEERING)
(HEROIC MUSIC)

884
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,920
Has anyone ever in
the history of American politics

885
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,560
been as lucky as this guy?

886
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,600
You know, he gets shot at,
actually hit in the ear. Um...

887
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,560
Um, so, I mean, take a moment
to appreciate that

888
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,640
it's-it's in the...

889
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,760
probably the safest place
on a human body

890
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,040
to be shot at is the ear.

891
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,720
Um, so, um...

892
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,200
You know,
he gets shot, and then he...

893
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,080
and then he gets-gets up again.

894
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,800
I mean, literally in front.

895
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,120
So, producing probably the most

896
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,600
iconic picture since...

897
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,800
I don't know, um...

898
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,360
Iwo Jima.

899
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,440
Um, but even that,
that's a, kind of, a group shot.

900
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,560
This is really a singular shot.

901
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,240
Um, and then he has
the presence of mind to, um...

902
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,400
uh, to-to mug for the camera,
to pump his fist.

903
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,040
This is extraordinary.

904
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,680
(GENTLE MUSIC)

905
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:00,320
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

906
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,320
(METAL DETECTOR SQUEAKING)

907
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,560
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

908
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,280
For Donald Trump,
this convention becomes

909
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,160
a hero's welcome, a coronation.

910
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,160
I mean, all of the things
you could have only dreamed

911
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,760
that you might want it to be.

912
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Hey. How are you?

913
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,240
Extraordinary.

914
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,000
You know, it's-it's, um...

915
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,640
Well, I mean, I guess
Donald Trump is gonna be the next

916
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,480
president of the United States.

917
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,000
Um, I mean, these guys think...

918
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,920
I mean, the Republicans think they
are gonna sweep every swing state,

919
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,560
plus Maine, plus Virginia and-and...

920
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:56,320
Um, um...

921
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,640
Yes. New Hampshire possible.

922
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,160
I mean, they really think Maine,
Virginia, and all the swing states,

923
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,320
but everything
is breaking their way.

924
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,800
I mean, they're-they're
seeing landslide.

925
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,320
It is therefore my honour
to nominate Ohio Senator JD Vance

926
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,280
for the office of vice president
of the United States of America.

927
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,200
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

928
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,520
Choosing Vance was very...
full of ambivalence.

929
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,760
You know,
he really didn't want to do it.

930
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,080
Because of all the terrible things
Vance has said about him.

931
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,800
You know,
because Don Jr was supporting him,

932
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,000
and he thinks Don Jr is a dummy.

933
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,440
And then the fact that he's 39,
which, you know,

934
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,920
obviously Trump understands,
that's going to make him look...

935
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,280
look old.

936
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,840
Up until days ago, he was still
seriously debating this.

937
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,200
Right, I mean, Vance has very
clearly positioned himself

938
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,400
or repositioned himself

939
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,800
as the MAGA next generation.

940
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,480
Who would have believed, Jesus?

941
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:17,160
I mean, he was always the story,
but now... My God.

942
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,640
Anyway, I'll speak to you next week.

943
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,600
See you. Bye.

944
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,600
YASMINE: What are your plans
for this evening?

945
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:35,840
You know, to go to the convention
floor and to smell the crowd.

946
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,760
(APPLAUSE)

947
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,280
We love Trump!

948
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,760
(CHEERING)

949
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,120
(CROWD CHANTING "We got this!")

950
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,920
Hey guys. No worries.
Good to meet you, hey!

951
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,000
How are you?

952
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,000
RNC SPEAKER: Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome former governor

953
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,960
of South Carolina and ambassador
to the United Nations,

954
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,400
Nikki Hayley.

955
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,640
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

956
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,480
To me, Hayley, look like
prisoners of war

957
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,280
fighting for their survival.

958
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,120
And so, you have to do
what you have to do.

959
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,160
I'll start by making one thing
perfectly clear.

960
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,640
Donald Trump has my strong
endorsement, period.

961
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,440
Nikki Haley cannot have been
pleased with this.

962
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,240
This is just falling into line.

963
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,880
The art of politics is
the art of humiliation.

964
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,680
My fellow Americans,
it is my honour to introduce

965
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,320
the 45th and soon-to-be 47th
President of the United States,

966
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,480
Donald J Trump.

967
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,800
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

968
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Let me begin this evening
by expressing my gratitude

969
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,280
to the American people

970
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,880
for your outpouring
of love and support

971
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,560
following the assassination attempt
at my rally on Saturday.

972
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,040
He had had the kind of experience

973
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,120
that necessarily changes a man,
even Donald Trump.

974
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,720
And it seems like
it could be a great speech.

975
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,920
A genius one.

976
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,760
Together we will launch a new era
of safety, prosperity and freedom

977
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,160
for citizens of every race,
religion, colour and creed.

978
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,040
The discord and division
in our society must be healed.

979
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,320
We must heal it quickly.

980
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,680
For minutes there, it was clear
to all, perhaps truly everyone,

981
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,120
that another Trump presidency
was inevitable,

982
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,000
even deserved to be.

983
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,920
I'm running to be president
for all of America,

984
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,680
not half of America,

985
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:28,640
because there is no victory
in winning for half of America.

986
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,040
But then, he relaxed.

987
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,840
The greatest invasion in history
is taking place right now

988
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,480
in our country from Africa,
Asia, the Middle East,

989
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,840
they're coming from everywhere,
they're coming...

990
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,080
We will drill, baby, drill.

991
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,080
..every week they got
another subpoena

992
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,800
from the Democrats crazy
Nancy Pelosi,

993
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,560
the whole thing just bum, bum, bum.

994
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:08,440
A jarring, and even embarrassing
juxtaposition between minutes ago,

995
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,160
the man humbled before God,
and now the same old, same old.

996
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,240
We've become a dumping ground
for the rest of the world,

997
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,440
which is laughing at us,
they think we're stupid

998
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,120
and they can't believe
that they're getting away

999
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,920
with what they're getting away with,

1000
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,720
but they not gonna be getting away
with it for long,

1001
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,000
that's what I can tell.

1002
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,280
OK. We've got huge breaking news
right now on Twitter.

1003
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,400
Apparently, President Biden
is saying that he will step aside

1004
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,760
as a candidate.

1005
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,200
This is just coming across on social
media right now. Breaking news.

1006
01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,760
The Trump people had become
so comfortable or complacent

1007
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,560
in their incredible success

1008
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,760
that they really hadn't come
to terms with the fact

1009
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,960
that their success was going
to force Biden out of the race.

1010
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,040
The Democratic Party
appears to have completely

1011
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,440
rallied around Kamala Harris...

1012
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,880
She experienced, she's tough.
She's capable.

1013
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,520
..which is curious,

1014
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,840
because if the issue
was finding the best candidate

1015
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,360
to oppose Donald Trump,

1016
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,520
you know, essentially,

1017
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:43,440
they've the Democratic Party
has now rallied around, you know,

1018
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,360
only the second worst candidate.

1019
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,880
She has not been
a very good politician,

1020
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:56,440
has not been very popular,
presents pretty badly.

1021
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,240
The opportunity here was to take
this story from Donald Trump.

1022
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,200
A new face is the only thing that
could make Donald Trump old news.

1023
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,600
But instead,
we have the somewhat old face

1024
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,640
and everybody else kind of
shying away from this.

1025
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,960
DNC SPEAKER: Are you ready
for Kamala Harris to win?!

1026
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,760
(CHEERING)

1027
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Good, because when Kamala wins,
America wins.

1028
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,360
Having said that, you know,
the race does change at this point.

1029
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,160
She gets to make a case for herself,

1030
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,560
and she has certain
built-in advantages.

1031
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,520
Trump has been making
serious inroads

1032
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:43,000
in the Democratic African American
base, Hispanic base, even women.

1033
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,960
So now she can reclaim
that Democratic advantage.

1034
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,200
And it's not impossible
that we can return to a race

1035
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,160
that hangs in the balance.

1036
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,000
This election is not only

1037
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,080
the most important of our lives,

1038
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:09,560
it is one of the most important
in the life of our nation.

1039
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,240
Donald Trump is an unserious man,

1040
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,160
but the consequences
of putting Donald Trump

1041
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,920
back in the White House
are extremely serious.

1042
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,480
The speed in which he dropped

1043
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,000
and then backed her,
I think, did surprise us a bit.

1044
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,680
We knew her numbers would bounce up,

1045
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,880
there'd be a bit of a halo effect,
but I'm not sure

1046
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,000
we necessarily expected that
there would be such the halo effect

1047
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,640
of the media who,
just two months prior,

1048
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,160
were saying all these nasty
negative things about her

1049
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,560
to then saying she's the one person
who could beat Trump

1050
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,520
so we have to rally around her.

1051
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,880
Very sad time for this country,
in many ways.

1052
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,440
You had a candidate.

1053
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,960
I was no fan of Joe Biden, but the
way he was taken out was a coup.

1054
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,920
He got 14 million votes
and the person running now got none.

1055
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,480
She was disgraced.

1056
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,240
She was figured out
by the Democrat voters.

1057
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,840
Now she's running against us.

1058
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,200
Thank you, everybody.

1059
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,320
(TRAIN HORN TOOTING)

1060
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,640
We're on our way to Philadelphia

1061
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,600
for the second debate
in this 2024 election.

1062
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:30,000
This will be the first time
you can compare them side by side.

1063
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,400
And I'm not sure and I think
a lot of people are afraid of that,

1064
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,040
that she's up to that.

1065
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,120
I don't want to look
at my involvement with this story

1066
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,000
as a political involvement.

1067
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,920
Some writers are highly political,

1068
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,040
and that's what
they're interested in.

1069
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,880
I'm interested in how a person
moves across the room.

1070
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,000
What does this person say
to that person?

1071
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,880
What is the nature
of their language?

1072
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,080
The tone of their language?

1073
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,600
It is very personal.
I'm the writer here.

1074
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,160
Every word I write
is through my eyes.

1075
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,840
I can't think of how that
could be more personal.

1076
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:35,240
You have to look at this as a kind
of farce, as a kind of comedy.

1077
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,080
The fact that it has
real world implications,

1078
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,760
the farce, I think,
confuses people

1079
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,080
and leads them to say,
well, it can't be farce.

1080
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,600
And I'm saying, well, I don't know.
Let's look at this.

1081
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,320
The woman there is Alina Habba,
one of the Trump lawyers.

1082
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,400
You want to get her.

1083
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,600
Trump once said that
he may not have the best legal team

1084
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,520
or the smartest legal team,

1085
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,160
but he has the hottest legal team.

1086
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,680
And then he would always show
a picture of Alina Habba.

1087
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,920
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1088
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,640
RFK Jr.

1089
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,320
There is no freedom of speech
in Europe anymore,

1090
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,280
there is no freedom of speech
in Brazil,

1091
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,200
and this is spreading across,
of course,

1092
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,680
China and these other countries
that don't exist.

1093
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,680
So interesting that he's a somebody.
ARTHUR: Why?

1094
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,840
Why? Because he's,
you know, a crazy person.

1095
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,360
60% of our kids now have
chronic disease

1096
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,040
compared to 3.4%
when my uncle was president.

1097
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,640
He said that Trump's main concern
was the children,

1098
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,560
which anyone who knows
Donald Trump

1099
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,440
knows that
never once in his life

1100
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,800
has he been concerned
about the children.

1101
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,160
We need to be again the exemplary
democracy in the world.

1102
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,240
Yep.

1103
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800
If this is about hair,
and Donald Trump has clearly made it

1104
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:25,440
about hair, I think Newsom
would be a very strong contender.

1105
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,600
I assume that
there are Democrats here.

1106
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,640
I just don't know
the Democrats as well.

1107
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,120
It's not my beat.

1108
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,040
OK. Four minutes to go. Let's go.

1109
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,520
ABC ANCHOR: Good evening.
We are looking forward

1110
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,440
to a spirited and thoughtful debate.

1111
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,280
ANCHOR 2: So, let's get started.

1112
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,360
They've destroyed
the fabric of our country.

1113
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,640
Crime in this country
is through the roof.

1114
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,240
Well, I think this is so rich

1115
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,400
coming from someone
who has been prosecuted.

1116
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,480
When you look at his economic plan

1117
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,200
it's all about tax breaks
for the richest people.

1118
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,440
She doesn't have a plan.

1119
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,920
Take a look at her plan,
she doesn't have a plan.

1120
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,280
She's a Marxist,
everybody know she's a Marxist.

1121
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,400
In over 20 states
there are Trump abortion bans.

1122
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,080
Trump abortion bans that make no
exception even for rape and incest.

1123
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,760
They have done by allowing
these millions of people

1124
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,320
to come into our country...

1125
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,640
In Springfield
they're eating the dogs.

1126
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,680
The people that came in, they're
eating the cats. They're eating...

1127
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:35,120
They're eating the pets
of the people that live there,

1128
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,800
and this is what's happening
in our country.

1129
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,280
And it's a shame.

1130
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,480
(CHUCKLES)
Talk about extreme.

1131
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,560
Tonight we saw a someone
that has empathy,

1132
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,760
who cares about ordinary Americans,

1133
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,640
who talks about kitchen sink issues.

1134
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,040
(APPLAUSE)
Fair, that's very fair.

1135
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,920
But what about the pets that are
being eaten in Springfield, Ohio?

1136
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,080
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

1137
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,400
They documented video after video
where people have said...
Cats and dogs?

1138
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:07,840
Yes, people have said that
they have pets that are missing,

1139
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,840
they have seen animals
being decapitated,

1140
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,840
people have reported...
Cats and dogs?Yes.

1141
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,560
You should preserve that law,
you shouldn't just allow

1142
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,920
that baby to die,

1143
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,720
the indifference to a baby
born alive is in essence...

1144
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,880
At times Donald Trump
seemed riled and angry.

1145
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,120
MICHAEL: She probably
comes out ahead.

1146
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,120
She can stand up against this guy.

1147
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,960
He got destroyed in this debate.
Destroyed.

1148
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,840
The reaction that she got
was totally flabbergasting,

1149
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,600
she went from someone
widely disliked

1150
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,120
to someone beloved
overnight.

1151
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,640
The new national Reuters IPSOS poll
has Haris ahead by five points.

1152
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,280
Let's take a look at that right now.

1153
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,960
For both sides, their winning issue,
each believes, is the other side.

1154
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,720
Donald Trump and the deep aversion
to him

1155
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:05,040
on the part of so many Americans
is the Democrats winning hand.

1156
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,400
In Kamala Harris
and the visceral dislike

1157
01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:11,360
and deep suspicion of her
in MAGA land

1158
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,360
is the Trumper's Ace.

1159
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,200
A tight race, as tight as any
in modern history

1160
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,640
could default to the enemy you know.

1161
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Are you guys staying here
all winter?

1162
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:33,560
We're here.

1163
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,040
Do you live in Montauk?
I do now.

1164
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,120
Oh, nice.

1165
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:47,200
Wow!
Oh, nice.

1166
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,920
Nice catch.

1167
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,960
That is huge!

1168
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,480
That's a big male.
(INDISTINCT)

1169
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,000
In many ways, I've become
a kind of court reporter.

1170
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,400
I'm often accused of reporting
gossip or being a gossip.

1171
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:13,960
That is that kind of quintessential
position of the guy

1172
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,280
in Louis' court or, you know,
of the diarists in London

1173
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,880
of a particular time.

1174
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,840
You're telling the things
that other people,

1175
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,400
nicer people, I suppose,
would not say.

1176
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:35,360
But I'm telling this story
in a way that is true, or I think.

1177
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,440
The real question is,
does it need to be told?

1178
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:42,600
You know,

1179
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,000
we believe we need to be told
but maybe politics is just

1180
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,960
this illusion that we all support

1181
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,400
and perhaps
it's completely meaningless.

1182
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,360
I have no politics.

1183
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,520
I'm a writer.
I have a stake in what I'm writing.

1184
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:09,640
I have a stake in being able
to take what is in front of me

1185
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,360
and put it on the page.

1186
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,800
The problem with farm stands
is that the people who work here

1187
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,560
are bloody incompetent.

1188
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,160
Do I have a rooting interest?
I have no rooting interest.

1189
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,960
I just have a descriptive interest.

1190
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,880
ARTHUR: But as a father
and a husband,

1191
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,200
do you have a different
sort of interest?

1192
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,680
I... (CHUCKLES)

1193
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,520
I think I just answered
that question.

1194
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,440
I can be more precise here.
I don't vote.

1195
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:40,280
I don't want to vote.

1196
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,040
That's not what I do.

1197
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,680
My job is a different job.

1198
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,960
I don't see any reason to add
that complication

1199
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,040
or that perspective on what I do.

1200
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,000
How's the book coming along?

1201
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,200
You mean...

1202
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,920
Does that mean...
Will I finish the book? I will.

1203
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,920
I will finish the book.
Will I finish the book on time?

1204
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,560
I always finish on time.

1205
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,520
TV ANCHOR:
Now, a judge in New York

1206
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,440
throws former President Donald
Trump's felony convictions

1207
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:20,200
into some question,
delaying his sentencing.

1208
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,720
That move comes following Monday's
US Supreme Court ruling

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,760
granting presidents some immunity
for official acts.

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:34,560
The most surprising thing of this
campaign is that he survived.

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,960
Each of these cases appear to be

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,040
each on their own a mortal threat.

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01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,440
That was a key
of the Democratic campaign.

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01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:49,320
At some point it began to be clear

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01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,720
that he was going
to circumvent this.

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,920
He is...

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01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,840
I think the term would be
'scot-free'.

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01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,200
TV ANCHOR: Tonight, a tape
the Kamala Harris campaign

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01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,520
will want Americans to hear.

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01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,480
JOHN KELLY:

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01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,800
So yesterday we learned that Donald
Trump's former chief of staff,

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,680
John Kelly, a retired
four star general,

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01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,000
confirmed that,
while Donald Trump was president,

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01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,680
he said he wanted generals
like Adolf Hitler had.

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01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,360
Kamala Harris has been groping

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01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:50,360
for a way to label him
and describe him.

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,720
So, this immediately became
an element of this campaign.

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,960
It is clear from John Kelly's words
that Donald Trump is someone

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,520
who, I quote, "certainly falls into
the general definition of fascist."

1230
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:09,080
I mean, fascism implies
a fairly structured programme

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,040
to realise those kind of corporate
populist and authoritarian goals.

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01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,760
Does Donald Trump have that?

1233
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,160
Oh... Jeez.

1234
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,640
I doubt that he has thought
that through in any way.

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01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,880
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1236
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,880
Thank you.Thank you.
Have some before you lose them.

1237
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,560
Was the ice cream machine working?

1238
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,960
You want ice cream?
I'll get you some ice cream.

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,800
But on the other hand, you know,

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01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,120
there are pieces of that
which he certainly displays.

1241
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,480
So, what is that?
What does that add up to?

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,760
In a sense to say it is fascism
is dignifying it.

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,720
I was a spooky one.
A spooky one?

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,720
OK. But you have to be quiet now
because we're making a movie.

1245
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,960
And so began what was perhaps
the worst week of the campaign.

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01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,560
Having been exiled
from New York City,

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,640
indeed, convicted by it,

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,640
the concurring anti-hero was back
at the very centre of it.

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01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,840
20,000 people were
at Madison Square Garden

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,120
to celebrate him.

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01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,400
Trump is actually re-enacting

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01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:32,840
the Madison Square Garden rally
in 1939.

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,840
Neo-Nazis, fascists in America

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01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:42,000
were lining up to pledge their
support for the kind of government

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01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,560
that they were seeing in Germany.

1256
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,400
So I don't think we can ignore it.

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,000
What do they mean by fascism?

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01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,240
By wanting to have your country
be able to survive,

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:00,240
by not wanting to constantly be
in other people's wars.

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,240
Like, he could cure cancer
just by doing this

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01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,880
and they'd totally find something
to say 'fascism!'

1262
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,520
'Homophobic!' And it's like,
we need to stop with these things.

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,560
Nobody cares who you sleep with.

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,480
Nobody cares what colour you are.

1265
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,360
Who is the greatest president
in American history?

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01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,880
ALL: Trump!

1267
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,400
As Trump backstage railed
against his speech writers

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01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,880
for finding nothing new to say,

1269
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,240
word started to filter back
that Tony Hinchcliffe

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01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,320
whom few have ever heard of

1271
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,480
was on stage
throwing a bomb into Latino voters

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01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,280
whose margin may well provide
the Trump victory.

1273
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,880
There's a lot going on,
I don't know if you guys know this,

1274
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,720
but there's literally
a floating island of garbage

1275
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,400
in the middle of the ocean
right now. Yeah.

1276
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,320
I think it's called Puerto Rico.

1277
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:52,640
(CROWD BOOING)

1278
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,240
OK... Alright. (CHUCKLES) OK.

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,080
WOMAN: You're my female hero

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01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,360
because you said to that man

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01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,400
what every woman in this world
wants to say to him.

1282
01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:29,400
Frankly, there are way too many men
in this world, big, small,

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01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:32,960
who have little microgram
of power over women.

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01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,240
And you showed those women,

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01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,560
"Guess what?
My voice means something."

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01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,080
Make sure you vote.
Yep.

1287
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,800
There is no doubt about voting.

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01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,640
I want to make sure
everybody's voting.

1289
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,160
While Trump may be holding a rally
at Madison Square Garden

1290
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,200
purely for his own ego,
New York's not gonna to flip, right?

1291
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,320
The rest of us are trying
to survive on a planet

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01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,200
that is really suffering
from climate change.

1293
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,160
We're trying to build a world
where the next generation

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01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,320
has access to, I don't know,
health care and education.

1295
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,880
So, it's really wild to be
an American right now.

1296
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,640
We really are living
in two different countries.

1297
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,480
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1298
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,360
Oh, hi Stormy!
Hello!

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01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,920
(INDISTINCT)
Thank you!

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01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,880
I think we should all worry
about Trump.

1301
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,480
I worry not just because
I'm an actual figure

1302
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,560
in this fucked up horror movie,

1303
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,120
but also just as an American
citizen, as a woman,

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,680
as a mother to a daughter,

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,360
as a friend to so many gay
and trans people.

1306
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,040
And yeah, I think that
we should all be very afraid.

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,760
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,640
This is so much more
than a political movement.

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01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,840
This is the greatest family
in the world.

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01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,320
We are fighting for a country
we love.

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,520
Are you guys ready
to take your country back?

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01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:03,600
(CHEERING)

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01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,360
America is for Americans
and Americans only.

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,760
If you're outside
of the Trump bubble,

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01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,080
it's very hard to appreciate
what's going on here.

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01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,560
I mean, it's sort of
one moron after another.

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01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,960
Our message to gay Americans
tonight, is this.

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01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,480
You're free to marry who you want,
if you want,

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01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,920
without the government
standing in your way.

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,840
But that doesn't mean that
boys get to compete with girls

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01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,480
in girls' sports.

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01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,760
Or you do genital mutilation and
chemical castration on our children.

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01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,960
You could not literally
sit through this

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01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,280
unless you were in the bubble,
you've drunk the Kool-Aid.

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01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,000
MAGA, baby, it's time.

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,920
Ladies and gentlemen,
the greatest capitalist

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01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:01,200
in the history of the Unites States
of America, Elon Musk.

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01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:03,800
Elon!

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01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,080
Elon!Elon!

1330
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,160
(UNCLEAR)

1331
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,120
(CHEERING ON TV)

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01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,360
Didn't he used to hate Trump?

1333
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:16,920
Oh!

1334
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,680
I wonder how his Tesla sales
are doing now.

1335
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,160
Because all liberals
that buy those, right?

1336
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,400
It's like mass possession.

1337
01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:33,120
What the fuck is happening?

1338
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,840
I talked to a priest about it,

1339
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,640
"Is it possible for a mass
possession

1340
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,080
or like a virus?
It's like the Walking Dead.

1341
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:46,320
Cos, I mean, there's people
that I would never expect

1342
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:50,080
just go full, full fucking cult.

1343
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,960
On day one, I will launch
the largest deportation programme

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01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,640
in American history.

1345
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,160
(CHEERING DROWNS SPEECH)

1346
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,240
If he gets away
with not getting sentenced,

1347
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,800
he gets it thrown out
when I gave up everything

1348
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,880
and I lost a contract
for a big podcast,

1349
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,680
I should have been making $1
million.

1350
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,240
I gave up everything to testify.

1351
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,360
But most importantly,
all that time without my daughter,

1352
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,040
then it was all for nothing.

1353
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,640
And I'm hereby calling for the
death penalty for any migrant

1354
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:26,240
that kills an American citizen
or law enforcement officer.

1355
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,920
(CHEERING ON TV)

1356
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,040
At this very moment
I think he's going to win.

1357
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,640
Because people have gotten
complacent,

1358
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,400
and these people are crazy
and rabid,

1359
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:39,680
and they will walk in the snow
uphill both ways to vote for him.

1360
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,720
(CHEERING)

1361
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:50,800
Meanwhile, Harris' closing speech
before a crowd of as many as 75,000

1362
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,560
at the ellipts in Washington DC,

1363
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,400
exactly where Trump
urged on similarly sized crowed

1364
01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:01,840
to march on the capital
on January 6th 2021,

1365
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,680
was as powerful and cogent
in argument

1366
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,680
for the dire future of a government
return to Donald Trump's hands

1367
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,680
as she had made in the campaign.

1368
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,080
Donald Trump has spent a decade

1369
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:20,120
trying to keep the American people
divided and afraid of each other,

1370
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,080
that is who he is,

1371
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,040
but, America,
I am here tonight to say

1372
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,520
that is not who WE are.

1373
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,840
That is not who WE are.
(CHEERING)

1374
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,840
In this final week,

1375
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,800
I mean, there's a, you know,
sudden death feeling.

1376
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:02,800
Many people have suddenly felt
the urgency to be witnesses

1377
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,440
to who Donal Trump really is.

1378
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,960
And it occurred to me,
I could add to the story.

1379
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,000
Good morning, Michael.
James.

1380
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,000
So... the end. Days to go.

1381
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,760
I know you've spent Sunday
with 10,000 of your closest friends

1382
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,200
in Madison Square Garden,
but we'll set that aside for now,

1383
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,320
cos there's something
I'd like to talk to you about.

1384
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,680
Something we talked
privately about before,

1385
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,360
but I don't think you have ever
talked about this publicly.

1386
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,320
You had a particularly secret source
when you wrote Fire and Fury.

1387
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,080
Quite particular.

1388
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,960
It was Trump's old friend,

1389
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,960
Jeffrey Epstein.

1390
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,920
Well, this past week,
the Epstein-Trump connection

1391
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,840
surfaced again
when a well-known model of the 90s,

1392
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,600
Stacey Williams,

1393
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,880
gave an interview saying
that while she was dating Epstein

1394
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,000
he introduced her to Trump,

1395
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,240
and Trump, virtually,
upon their introduction,

1396
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,000
well, let me quote from the story...

1397
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,120
"Mr Trump pulled miss Williams
toward him and touched her breasts,

1398
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,520
waist and buttocks,"

1399
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,760
she said,
as The New York Times reporter did.

1400
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,400
So how much do you know
about Jeffrey and Donald?

1401
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:18,600
Quite a bit.

1402
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:23,320
I probably have 100 hours of Epstein

1403
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,760
talking about the inner workings
of the Trump White House.

1404
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:49,840
Having this conversation, Epstein,
on more than one occasion,

1405
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,640
would bring out these
photographs that he had.

1406
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,360
They were from the late 90s

1407
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:02,400
and they were Trump at
Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach house

1408
01:26:02,440 --> 01:26:07,120
sitting around the pool
with these young women,

1409
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:11,280
topless, and in some of the pictures
they're sitting in his lap,

1410
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,680
and there's one
I especially remember

1411
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,800
where there's a stain,
a telltale stain

1412
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,440
on the front of Trump's pants,

1413
01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:25,640
and the women are pointing at him
and laughing.

1414
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,400
This is getting creepy.

1415
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:31,120
The creepiest framing of this
is, you know,

1416
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:35,560
here are these two guys, both driven
by a need to do anything they wanted

1417
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,760
with women.

1418
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,280
Dominance and submission
and entertainment.

1419
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,280
And one of them end up in the
darkest prison in the country

1420
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,800
and the other in the White House.

1421
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,320
Yes.
Explain that.

1422
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:55,400
Let's have a discussion about,
you know, if we wanna push this out.

1423
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:56,960
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1424
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,920
I have tried countless times to do
something with this material,

1425
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:06,880
I have discussed this with almost
every media organization,

1426
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,400
but no-one has wanted
to let Epstein be a witness.

1427
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:17,920
From my point of view, to really
point out that Jeffrey Epstein

1428
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:22,400
was Donald's Trump close friend
for a very long time

1429
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:26,600
is damming information,
telling information

1430
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,520
and important information.

1431
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,800
It does feel like
there are secrets here.

1432
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,520
We've just got 100 hours
of Jeffrey Epstein

1433
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,560
saying him and Trump are BFFs.

1434
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,640
I didn't even get no alert about it
on my phone...

1435
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,920
But nothing happened.

1436
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,040
That's the thing about the news
cycle, it passes very quickly.

1437
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,640
..interviews Epstein did
with the writer Michael Wolff,

1438
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,680
who took his sweet time
releasing this information.

1439
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,680
I cannot explain why Donald Trump
has gotten a pass on this.

1440
01:27:57,480 --> 01:28:00,600
Donald Trump has said repeatedly,
"Oh, I barely knew the guy'"

1441
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,840
when in fact he was his best friend
for ten years.

1442
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:09,360
One of the interesting aspect
of this is that the Trump campaign

1443
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,720
released the statement calling this
election interference,

1444
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,080
which is, um...

1445
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,040
which is puzzling,
which sort of goes like

1446
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,000
anything you would say against us
before the election

1447
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,120
is election interference.

1448
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,680
The story has happened.

1449
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,920
I'm just waiting now to find out
how it ends.

1450
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:09,760
As we sit here and I start to think,
well, he could, he could win.

1451
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,240
Donald Trump could very well win.

1452
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,080
Disregarding what that means
for the country,

1453
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,280
the world and the future
of my children.

1454
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,800
The idea for me that I might have
to go on writing about him

1455
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,560
is... almost unimaginable.

1456
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,440
So were it to come to pass

1457
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:32,720
that he was to be defeated,

1458
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,880
I guess I would feel... liberated.

1459
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:37,760
SAM NUNBERG: 'Hi!'

1460
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,560
Sam, I want your up-to-the-minute.

1461
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,440
'I think she has Pennsylvania,

1462
01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:45,680
but that doesn't stop Trump
from being able to win

1463
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,840
cos he can still go through
Michigan and Wisconsin

1464
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,720
assuming he wins the sunbelt.

1465
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,600
The problem in North Carolina
is this fucking asshole

1466
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,240
who didn't drop out.

1467
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,240
Trump has never mentioned that guy,
I forget his name.'

1468
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,080
Right, right yeah.
'The porno guy.'

1469
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,880
Yeah.
'The porno Nazi guy.'

1470
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,720
So you think at this moment...
'Listen, listen,

1471
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,000
what I'm telling you is,
I think she's gonna win.'

1472
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,120
Yep, got it.

1473
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,520
'But I'm saying, like,
if somebody's paying me,

1474
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,680
"I want your analysis",
I'm like, look,

1475
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,760
I don't have a high confidence
on this and I'm not hedging to you.'

1476
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,760
I mean, you're actually somewhat
more optimistic on her side

1477
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,600
than I am at the moment.

1478
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,080
Call me tonight. See ya.
'Are you pissed...

1479
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,200
Did you hear anymore
about the Epstein stuff?'

1480
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:32,440
Oh God, Jeez. All I do is hear now
about is Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.

1481
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:38,480
'I'll call you or text you
when I hear about Pennsylvania.'

1482
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,000
Thanks.

1483
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,280
So that was one of my all-time
favourite Trump orbit people,

1484
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:48,600
who is often thought to be,

1485
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,960
even among Trump people,

1486
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,240
to be the guy who knows Trump best.

1487
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:58,640
Writing about Donald Trump

1488
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,680
and Donald Trump becoming one's
antagonist is an interesting,

1489
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,160
in a way, confounding situation.

1490
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:11,560
My first book, Fire and Fury,
he denounced it,

1491
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,040
threatened to sue me,
the whole litany of things.

1492
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,320
And that actually redounded
to the success of the book.

1493
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:24,360
You enter into this weird
symbiotic relationship,

1494
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,520
The more he vilifies you,

1495
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,920
the more you become a public figure.

1496
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,880
You enter into his news cycle world

1497
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,600
and likely benefit from it.

1498
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,800
It's 5:06 on Election Day

1499
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:51,480
and the majority of quality polls
are now showing

1500
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,880
Harris with an Electoral
College victory.

1501
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,880
(TV CHATTER IN THE BACKGROUND)

1502
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:18,360
Democrats with 32 seats,
Republicans with 42...

1503
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,840
She's going to do better
in certain areas like Philadelphia,

1504
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,120
which is a city.
So that looks like she's doing well.

1505
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,280
Looks like she's winning the state.

1506
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:31,560
But there will be other votes
coming in from rural Pennsylvania,

1507
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,960
for instance, where Donald Trump
will do much better.

1508
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,720
Donald Trump.
Donald Trump, you say it.

1509
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,360
Donald Trump wins.

1510
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,080
(UNCLEAR)

1511
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:49,760
If he wins,

1512
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,600
then the likelihood is that
I am committed

1513
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:58,400
for another four years,
that I am not sure

1514
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:02,400
that I could easily extricate myself

1515
01:33:02,440 --> 01:33:07,640
from being the chronicler
of the Donald Trump era.

1516
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,720
But I would like to go on to other
things before my time is over.

1517
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:21,760
The action, such as it is,
shifts to the Grand Ballroom...

1518
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,240
The rumour starting to build up
is that Trump's the winner...

1519
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,720
..but in a way it seems more of a
club event than an historic event.

1520
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,400
It's blue hairs
and men in sports jackets.

1521
01:33:34,440 --> 01:33:38,680
An easy victory, and that's what
it increasingly seems to be,

1522
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,680
might seem to deprive everyone
of the sense of battle.

1523
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:48,040
Victory seems to lack
the energy and passion

1524
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,880
of believing that victory
has been stolen.

1525
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,320
At 2:25 am he comes out on stage.

1526
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,200
He seems less than himself.

1527
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:02,360
Thank you very much.

1528
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,040
Winning the popular vote
was very nice.

1529
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:07,600
Very nice, I will tell you.

1530
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:12,720
This turn of events is certainly
not evidently filling him with joy.

1531
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,320
Not yet anyway.
Where is the dancing?

1532
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,200
He is, you might read
the weary body language,

1533
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,200
in a kind of stoic mood.

1534
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,200
It's a flat affect.

1535
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:26,080
Control of the Senate.
Wow, that's good.

1536
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,440
(CHEERING)

1537
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:32,400
Almost, in fact, the manner of a
conventional politician in defeat.

1538
01:34:32,440 --> 01:34:34,560
How to get through this?

1539
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,520
He proceeds to deliver
his standard rally speech.

1540
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,520
A subdued Donald Trump
is not Donald Trump.

1541
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,320
Has victory robbed him
of his reason for being?

1542
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,600
The fact that he will take
every swing state

1543
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,800
that in his third try he will easily
win the popular vote...

1544
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,760
We've been through so much together

1545
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,240
and today you showed up
in record numbers.

1546
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,680
..that he will significantly
reconfigure many safe assumptions

1547
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,360
about an otherwise
predictable electorate,

1548
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,600
that somehow at this moment
he might seem to be

1549
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,080
the most successful figure
in American politics

1550
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,040
since Franklin Roosevelt,

1551
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,920
was a new and bewildering reality,

1552
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:20,520
even for those who were part of it,

1553
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,160
even for him, perhaps, most of all.

1554
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,800
..you the people,
we will make America safe, strong,

1555
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,240
prosperous, powerful and free again.

1556
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,280
(GENTLE PIANO MUSIC)

1557
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,680
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