1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,760 I have different personalities. Nobody knows who's coming downstairs in the morning. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,800 This programme contains very strong language 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,920 and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting, and deals with Sexual Abuse 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,920 He's topped the charts all over the world. He sold nearly 11 million albums worldwide. 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,960 He has single handedly raised the profile of rap music. 8 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:21,400 For me, growing up in the '90s in Peckham, and now as a DJ, 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,400 hip-hop has always been a massive part of my life. 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,840 And Diddy really was the centre of it. 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,760 A music pioneer, star maker and a billionaire business mogul. 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,160 The meek and the humble shall inherit the earth. 13 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:39,600 But he didn't say you had to be like that every day. 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,560 This is what I imagined, but even bigger. 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,240 You know, I'm just beginning. Puff Daddy forever! 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,960 He was the ultimate hip-hop mogul. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,160 But the Diddy story is complex. 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,200 Breaking news. Sean Diddy Combs 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,320 has now been arrested. 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,400 The indictment alleges that between at least 2008 and the present, 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Combs abused, threatened and coerced victims 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,640 to fulfil his sexual desires, 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,280 protect his reputation 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,840 and conceal his conduct. 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,760 After a seismic fall from grace, 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,960 will his rise turn out to be a tale of ruthless ambition? 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,360 I'm a savage! Whatever I want, I'm going to get! 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Of unchecked power and bravado? 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,960 My mother has always taught me if somebody hit me, 30 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,760 make sure I hit them back harder. 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,760 Make sure they never hit me again. 32 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,040 Make sure I fuck them up. 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Or is there some truth 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,120 in the allegations of abuse and violence? 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,680 This office is charging Sean Combs with racketeering conspiracy, 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,280 sex trafficking, 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,720 interstate transportation for prostitution. 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,040 Today, he's been indicted and will face justice 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,920 in the Southern District of New York. 40 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,880 Mr Combs is a fighter. He's going to fight this to the end. 41 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,080 He's innocent. 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,680 He came to New York to establish his innocence. 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 He's not afraid. He's not afraid of the charges. 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,600 He's been looking forward to clearing his name. 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,040 And he's going to clear his name. 46 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:11,080 I grew up listening to Diddy's music, 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,520 but his recent public downfall has been epic. 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,160 I don't know what to believe. 49 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,040 The wild chat on social media, 50 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,640 or the charges that are being levelled against him. 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,080 My friend Shayna and I both worshipped Diddy. 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,280 I was shocked at the length 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,280 and breadth of the accusations against him. Mm-hm. 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,400 Like, because of the legacy that he's built, 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,280 because of the mogul that he's become, 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,560 because Diddy's the guy, Diddy was the man. 57 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,680 And he's been the guy since I was seven all the way through. Yeah. 58 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,760 I don't even... I don't even know what to believe. 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,840 Do you know what it is, yeah? The caricature that he made himself, 60 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,120 it's almost like a cartoon villain. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Like, he's so wild. He's so eccentric. 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,800 He's an eccentric billionaire. 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,400 Yeah. You know, like, then you'd think he could never do that. Never. 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,800 That didn't happen. I mean, Cassie, 65 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,000 her and Diddy, they're this incredible couple. 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,200 And she was like fire! Oh, she's going to take over 67 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,080 from Rihanna, from Beyonce, 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,800 from whoever it is. Yeah. 69 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,240 It's a perfect example of truly never knowing what happens, 70 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,200 especially when people paint this picture. 71 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Do you remember when she shaved her head? 72 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,520 Like she was so stunning. So I shaved my head. 73 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Of course you did. Of course I shaved my head. 74 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,400 So now, when I read the stories about it being Diddy's idea 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,680 that he saw someone in a club... Mm-hm. 76 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,680 ..that had half their hair shaved or something, and then said, 77 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,720 "You're going to do that." And the next day... The next day, 78 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,480 she did it. Like, that's a very big 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,200 level of control. That's a big statement. 80 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 And it makes me feel guilty, 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,640 how much I bought into that lifestyle 82 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,160 and what he showed me to be black excellence, 83 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,480 and how much I wanted to be involved in his parties. Mm-hm. 84 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,560 I want to be invited to these brunches. 85 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,720 This was the party to be at. This was the place to go. 86 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,000 If we're believing the allegations, the question is, who is this man? 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Like, who is this man? Who have you been? 88 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,640 And what are you capable of? What are you showing us? 89 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,760 What are you capable of? What else have you done? 90 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,280 What...? And who helped you do it? 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,320 Yeah. 92 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,360 So now I want to understand exactly 93 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,720 who he was... 94 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,200 ..and find out from the people who were there what really went on. 95 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,080 P Diddy has been facing a string of claims 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,240 in connection with parties thrown by the hip-hop star. 97 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Combs allegedly planned 98 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,000 and controlled the sex performances, which he called Freak Offs, 99 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,480 and he often electronically recorded them. 100 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,240 What do you do to make just an amazing killer party? 101 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,640 This is what you need to do. Um, women. 102 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,080 Beautiful women. Of course. 103 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,040 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 104 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,840 Diddy was celebrated for his extravagant lifestyle 105 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,200 all over the media. 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,480 But getting people to open up about 107 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,560 what happened at the parties hasn't been easy. 108 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,360 But there is one woman 109 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,920 who is willing to share her story with me. 110 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,600 "Precious Muir is a 40-year-old today, and is a famous TV presenter. 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,760 "When she was in her 20s, she moved to New York. 112 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,360 "She started modelling and many people advised her to go 113 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,720 "to celebrity parties to make connections 114 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,960 "and make her way in that world." 115 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,760 I'm here to try and get a sense of 116 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,320 what actually went down at a Diddy party. 117 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,440 I want to know what it was like. I want to know what Diddy was like. 118 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,360 I want to know what his entourage were like. 119 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,680 And I think Precious is the perfect person to speak to about that. 120 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,600 Basically, I got a model contract to move to 121 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,600 Manhattan, New York. I moved there in 2005, 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,640 but I don't think I ever really understood 123 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,120 what kind of environment it was going to be, 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,720 because I hadn't been familiar with the country before. Of course. 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,200 What was the nightlife like? 126 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,360 They would have these kind of VIP host club promoters 127 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,560 that would kind of present this kind of atmosphere 128 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,440 where you can, as a model, 129 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,280 you can actually go and enjoy all these luxuries for free. 130 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:22,640 Initially, I went to a vodka brand party 131 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,640 that's associated with Diddy, 132 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,040 and that is how I was, really, I guess, approached 133 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,600 and introduced into this kind of lifestyle. 134 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,760 So the first time that you went to one, 135 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,760 it must have been a little bit like starry-eyed? 136 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,680 I thought, "This can't get better. This is Hollywood!" 137 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:50,080 Like, every single person you can imagine was at these parties. 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,760 I mean, it must have been a pinch-me at some point? 139 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,600 Yeah. I mean, God, like, the house was insane. 140 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,120 There was beautiful girls dancing and champagne was flowing. 141 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,880 It was like walking into a film set. 142 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Like, it was something so extravagant, 143 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,160 so insane 144 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,760 that you can't understand it unless you're there. 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,920 Diddy had to always make sure that his presence was known, right? 146 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Everyone in the party wanted to be around him. 147 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,920 He wanted to be close with them. 148 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,680 He wanted to make sure everyone's drinking, 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,080 everyone's dancing, everyone's having a good time. 150 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,320 But I feel like when I was there, 151 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,560 I was part of something that was bigger than me. 152 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,560 There was a lot of people asking you questions before you could qualify 153 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,160 maybe to those big lavish parties. Like what kind of stuff you're into, 154 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,720 like would you like to come to this kind of party? 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,160 I received a drink from someone while I was at this party, 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,600 and there was something in my drink. 157 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,040 Before I knew it, I couldn't stand up. 158 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,120 I was basically just completely paralysed on one side of my face, 159 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,320 and I had no idea what was going on. 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Mm-hm. I didn't know the people I was around. 161 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,960 So the person that came and, like, helped me out of 162 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,040 the situation was one of the venue's security guards. 163 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,960 If I hadn't been saved by that security guard, 164 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,040 I have no idea what would have happened to me. 165 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,160 Why didn't you go to the police? 166 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,280 I was advised that as long as I'm seen by the doctor 167 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,480 and I'm OK by the next day, 168 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,840 I don't need to pursue anything with the police. 169 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,840 I feel now, looking back, it was an initiation. 170 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,800 I feel like his inner circle were testing me. 171 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,880 So when you don't do something, 172 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,680 as in pursuing the police and making a report, they feel like, 173 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:54,080 "OK, Precious is cool." 174 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,720 If I had done the opposite, I don't 175 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,480 think I would have been included in that inner circle any more. 176 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,280 You won't be invited to the White Party in the Hamptons. 177 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,360 Why did you keep going back if you felt uncomfortable? 178 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,560 If someone said to you, 179 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:10,320 "I'm going to give you the golden ticket, 180 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,080 "and you can be able to stand in front of an executive 181 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,840 "who is going to be able to book you for that big job", 182 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,320 are you not going to go? 183 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,200 You're going to go to network and meet these people. 184 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,200 But you had to take that at a risk. 185 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,360 You need the ladies. You need the booze. You need some water. 186 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,400 LAUGHTER 187 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,360 For watering plants? No, no. 188 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,160 I don't know if guys have noticed this, 189 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,640 like, a lot of ladies drink water at parties. 190 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Right. You know, so if you don't have what they need, 191 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,760 they're going to leave. Right. Got to keep them there. 192 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Right. You need locks on the doors. 193 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,960 LAUGHTER 194 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,040 For those of us who have never been to a Diddy party, 195 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,160 can you set the scene? 196 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Because even Diddy's descriptions are pretty sinister. 197 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Talking about things going on behind locked doors. 198 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,080 What did you see at the Diddy parties? 199 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Well, you would see girls sitting on guys' laps 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,960 and they're kissing and doing... 201 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,680 ..all different drugs, 202 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:09,400 coke, basically, on the woman's breasts, 203 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,800 and he's sniffing off her breasts or whatever. 204 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,080 Popping pills, they were smoking weed, 205 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,760 and I would see open condom wrappers in the rubbish bins. 206 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,800 I would hear stuff as I'm walking past different rooms. 207 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,840 I would hear things going on in the bedrooms. 208 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,880 I saw children there. 209 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,480 I saw young children with whomever brought them 210 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,920 to the parties during the daytime. 211 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,120 And alongside there was naked girls. 212 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,200 I mean, girls would be literally fingering each other in the pool. 213 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Like, this isn't the atmosphere for kids, at all. 214 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,240 Like, this is strange. 215 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,000 I've heard after a certain part, they would ask you, 216 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,720 you need to sign an NDA for you to continue on 217 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,400 to the rest of the party. 218 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Was sex offered to you? 219 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,960 Definitely. Sex was... 220 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:03,560 It wasn't, it wasn't offered to you. You were asked, 221 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:05,840 "Do you want to stay, do you want to hook up, do you want to...?" 222 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,960 And I would be like, "No, I'm good, I'm good, it's time to go, 223 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,400 "like, I'm good." 224 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,840 I know there are things you're not telling me. Mm. 225 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,440 Am I right in that? 226 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,080 There's a lot of things that I would love to say, 227 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,960 but because... 228 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,640 It's OK. 229 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Because obviously I fear 230 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,800 the repercussions of what I could say... 231 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,720 ..I have to hold back a little bit 232 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,000 because I don't know... 233 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,280 ..what could happen to me. 234 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,720 I was drugged and taken... 235 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,680 ..into a space where... 236 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:51,360 ..you know... 237 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,040 It's uncomfortable to talk about that, 238 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,760 because I don't know what happened exactly. 239 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Do you understand? 240 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,760 And you have no idea, 241 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,400 if you speak up and you go to the police or you say something, 242 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,520 what could happen to you. 243 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,360 I think you're very brave. 244 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,080 Having heard Precious' story, 245 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,840 I then came across something else that made me think it was unlikely 246 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,640 that she was the only person potentially drugged. 247 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,520 We used to go in the club. We'd go into the nightclub, right? 248 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,600 All of these girls come around and VIP. 249 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,200 I found an interview with an artist Diddy used to work with. 250 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,920 It was pretty disturbing stuff. 251 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Freako parties? Yo, let me tell you something. 252 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,920 When we'd go to the club, we used to have these bottles, right? 253 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,520 And on this bottle, they'd be regular Moet bottles. 254 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,640 On them bottles right there, they'd have something to make the girls 255 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,800 be real, real slippery, and all of this kind of stuff. 256 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Slippery?! So when you'd get up, they be like, 257 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,960 don't touch them bottles right there and only drink them bottles right there. 258 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,960 So we already knew what the drill was. 259 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,000 You just don't mess with them bottles, right? 260 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,960 What?! All of the girls in the club, 261 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,920 after a while, they all running, opening up their mouth 262 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,840 like little birds. He was running around just pop, popping pills 263 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,160 in their mouth. Pop pill, pill, pill, pill, 264 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,200 and then, that was the party. But all of the females in there, 265 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,320 that's what they wanted. That was what party - 266 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,040 it was part of the hip-hop culture. 267 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,680 When they're slippery, to quote our good friend Mark Curry here 268 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:30,440 - yeah? - that's when they're popping pills in their mouth? 269 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Yeah. But that's choice the girls have made. 270 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,560 Because they're like, mouths open. Why are their mouths open? 271 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,680 Because you put something in their drink... They're high! 272 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:39,280 Innit? Even if what he's saying is true, 273 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,720 it's like, the way that women were and are treated... 274 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,080 Yeah, because he said, it's hip-hop culture, 275 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,720 this is what we did, this is what we done, it's how we partied. 276 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,480 So the girls are objects? The girls are objects. 277 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,800 HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYS 278 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,440 In the '90s, LA was the home of West Coast hip-hop. 279 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Misogyny wasn't just present, it was the norm across the culture. 280 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,720 Power, entitlement, the belief that people, especially women, 281 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,360 were theirs to control. 282 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,120 I've come to meet Amy DuBois, former editor of Honey magazine. 283 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,640 She was in the thick of it at the time, 284 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,080 rubbing shoulders with hip hop's biggest names, 285 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,400 including Diddy himself. 286 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Honey magazine, that I was the editor in chief of, 287 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,840 was an urban magazine, so it was for young women of colour. 288 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Honey magazine gave Beyonce her first solo cover. 289 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,160 Sometimes we even co-hosted album release parties with music labels, 290 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,040 so we were very much in that scene at that time. 291 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,320 It was the zenith of hip-hop. 292 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,840 There was so much money. 293 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Andre Harrell was the founder of Uptown Records, 294 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,320 and Andre was very influential, you know, on Puff. 295 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,520 I mean, he gave him his first opportunity. 296 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,840 He was the first person, I think, to meld, you know, 297 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,840 urban culture and hip-hop with kind of style and lifestyle. 298 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,000 His, you know, kind of grown-in sexy aesthetic. 299 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Puff absorbed all of that. 300 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,600 You could have had the Colt 45 lifestyle at that time, 301 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,720 or you could have had the, you know, drug dealer baller, 302 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,880 uptown record industry, champagne lifestyle. 303 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Black wealth is, I don't say non-existent, 304 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,240 but is almost non-existent in this country. 305 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,680 So for a lot of music executives, particularly, um, you know, 306 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,120 folks who were black who maybe came up with not very much, 307 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,560 you know, um, when they were exposed to 308 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,560 kind of wealth and power, 309 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,840 you have a sense of 310 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,160 self-importance and, you know, 311 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,280 you have kind of a sense of invincibility. Mm. 312 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,120 And I think that, you know, was what governed a lot of 313 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,240 the way people were behaving around that time. 314 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,800 One of the things that I think a lot of people, especially women, 315 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,040 potentially struggle with when it comes to being fans of hip-hop, 316 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,360 is that you can be a fan of the music, 317 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,600 but then when you really strip down to the lyrics, it's degrading. 318 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,480 You know, there is a certain amount of guilt that many of us have... 319 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,800 Yeah. ..you know, because we are consumers of the culture. 320 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,240 Yeah. Some of us have benefited, you know, from, um, 321 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,440 you know, financially, from the culture. 322 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,040 Yeah. Misogyny and sexual violence in the lyrics made it 323 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 very acceptable, I think, 324 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,720 for male artists and male, you know, 325 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,320 music industry executives to disrespect women. 326 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,080 I don't know a woman who, you know, worked in the music industry 327 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,480 who doesn't have some kind of story of having to, you know, 328 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,600 escape a man who was treating her disrespectfully. 329 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Are you comfortable to talk me through some of those experiences? 330 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,800 I mean, there were - there were so many. Oh, gosh. 331 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,560 Um, yeah, there were so many. I mean, they ranged from, 332 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,640 you know, music artists, you know, grabbing me, you know, 333 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,400 my...you know, my... 334 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,640 ..my bum and my, you know, my body, you know, 335 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,400 um, propositioning me, you know, in parties and then, 336 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,840 um, calling me out of my name when I turned them down. 337 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,560 You know, a very, very well-known, um, 338 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,920 music executive locked me in a limousine 339 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,920 and wouldn't let me out until I kissed him. 340 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,040 The misogyny was so widespread. 341 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,880 We felt it, but we also just sort of treated it as par for the course. 342 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,040 It was helpful for our careers, for them to desire us, 343 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,480 but we had to always kind of toe the line 344 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,720 where we were also kind of creating a boundary of professional respect. 345 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,840 I mean, it sounds really strange now, 346 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,640 but this is really the environment at the time. 347 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,200 I was only a kid in the '90s, but I'm starting to realise 348 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,400 how unregulated the industry was back then. 349 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,560 It seems like it was normal for young upcoming artists 350 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,960 to be sent to live with industry insiders to mentor them. 351 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,680 Diddy himself lived with his mentor, Andre Harrell, at 19. 352 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,280 But Usher was just 14 when his record label sent him 353 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,400 to live with Diddy, yet is coy about the details of what life was like 354 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,520 with him. 355 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,760 That's the crazy thing, right? New York City. We're sending you over 356 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,800 to something called Puffy Flavour Camp. 357 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,240 There you go. To learn some... Flavour camp?! Yeah. 358 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,520 In the '90s, do you understand what that's like? 359 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,080 It was curious. I got a chance to see some things... 360 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,400 Uh-huh. And I didn't necessarily understand it. 361 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,080 14 years old. You're a dad now. 362 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,840 Would you ever send your kid to Puffy Camp? 363 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,960 Hell, no! 364 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,800 Usher never revealed what went on at Puppy Flavour Camp, 365 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,400 but revealing footage of a 15-year-old Justin Bieber 366 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,520 when he stayed with Diddy for 48 hours has got people talking. 367 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 A man after my heart. That's what I'm talking about. 368 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,480 The allure of the music industry has always attracted 369 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,720 the young and ambitious. 370 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,040 So I'm meeting a former employee of Diddy's record label, Bad Boy. 371 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,120 Mel Love was just a teenager when he started as an intern. 372 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Mel, hi! Hey, how are you doing? I'm Yinka. 373 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. How are you? Everything is good. 374 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,640 Good. Nice sunny day. 375 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,960 I want to find out, for someone so young, what is the price of fame? 376 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,400 Every single day I was going downtown, 377 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,440 the Uptown MCA. I'm going to Universal Records, 378 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,880 telling them, I need a job with y'all, 379 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,880 y'all got to hire me, I'm the best man for the job. 380 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,920 I was 13 at the time. 381 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,320 And I'm trying in any way possible, 382 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,680 I'm trying to get in and work for these people because I know 383 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,480 that it's something that I need to do... Mm. ..with the industry. 384 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,160 Did you enjoy working in that industry? 385 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Um... 386 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,800 You know, this industry is cruel. 387 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,360 I was a kid. 388 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:33,280 Um, at a business party, 389 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,640 an individual at the label came at me the wrong way. 390 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,440 "You're handsome, you're a handsome black man. 391 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,600 "Wow, you know what I'll do to you? 392 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,000 "I'll take care of you for the rest of your life. 393 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,120 "All you got to do is just play with my booty hole. 394 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,640 "All you got to do is suck me off." 395 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,920 So then after that, I was in a singing group 396 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,840 and...my singing partner, 397 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,160 he was like, yo, I got these people that want to manage us, 398 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,360 this and that. So I'm like, all right, no problem. 399 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:10,360 So I go to their house, I'm eating, they offering hamburgers, fries. 400 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:12,960 So, I don't know what happened. 401 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,280 You know what I mean? I went to sleep. 402 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,280 All of a sudden I felt myself getting up, 403 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,720 and I'm like, damn, it's dark in here, oh, shit. 404 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,120 Fuck going on? At the same time I'm feeling somebody 405 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:36,520 rubbing on my leg, start rubbing on my front, and I'm like, 406 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,360 oh, shit, what the fuck is going on? 407 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:43,280 I'm like, yo, I don't like what's about to happen 408 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,800 if this guy grabbed me, because his arms is like this, 409 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,680 these look like big bouncing dudes and stuff like that. 410 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,800 They tried to trap me and my friend in that situation. 411 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,480 My experience, that's what I dealt with. 412 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,360 It was very scary, young age, dealing with that. 413 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:05,400 How old were you? I was, um... 414 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,280 ..15, 15, 16 at that time when that happened. 415 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,080 And Diddy, being the boss, would he have been aware 416 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,800 of this choice or these circumstances? 417 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,400 I don't think he was aware of these people coming at me like that. 418 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,600 I never opened up and told him or anything, 419 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,800 because I was embarrassed myself that these people was even coming 420 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,400 at me like that. 421 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,200 Did you ever hear about Diddy abusing or crossing the line 422 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,720 with anybody? Um... 423 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,200 ..I heard it, but I didn't see nothing like that. 424 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,400 Personally, working with this guy, 425 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,440 he never came at me wrong or anything like that. 426 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Like, I'm hearing these stories with him touching on people 427 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,920 and doing all this stuff. And I'm like, wow, this is crazy. 428 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,160 Back then, being a kid running around and stuff like that, 429 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080 he had mad time to do whatever he wanted, 430 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,600 you know what I mean? To say or try to manipulate me to do 431 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,240 all these crazy things that I'm hearing now. 432 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,760 And it never happened. So, only thing I can do is just speak 433 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,960 the truth on what I lived through. 434 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,080 Mel, whether he knows it or not, 435 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,520 is part of the collateral damage of this culture 436 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,000 of abuse in hip-hop and beyond. 437 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,920 So one of the most shocking things about speaking to him 438 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,120 was the casual way in which he talks about abuse in the workplace, 439 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:29,960 as if it is just commonplace. 440 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800 And it just sounds like it was a free for all, 441 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,840 that execs, 442 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,440 bosses, whoever's in a higher position, 443 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720 had free rein and could just do what they want. 444 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Although Mel told me he never saw Diddy abusing anyone, 445 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,440 he is facing multiple civil lawsuits 446 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,080 where individuals are seeking personal damages. 447 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,240 A lawyer representing the alleged victims of musician Sean Diddy Combs 448 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,120 says there could be as many as 300 people with viable claims of abuse. 449 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,440 But before these civil matters can be dealt with, 450 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,440 he'll be in a criminal court dealing with the federal case. 451 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,200 As well as the sexual allegations, he's also facing conspiracy charges. 452 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,440 Combs Enterprise. Enterprise meaning a group of people organised 453 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,520 for the purpose of committing crimes. In shorthand, right? 454 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,080 Organised crime. Now, prosecutors allege that Diddy was the leader 455 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840 of that criminal enterprise, 456 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,720 which consisted of security and household staff, 457 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,640 personal assistants, high ranking supervisors 458 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,920 and other close associates. 459 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,120 HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYS 460 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,480 I'm heading to New York, 461 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,160 where Diddy's bad boy image was created. 462 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,320 It was his empire, where his character evolved, 463 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,000 where his conduct and drive became more extreme. 464 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,160 What's next? Give me something else. What can't you do? 465 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,960 I could do it. I could do anything! 466 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,920 sniffin' cocaine 467 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,280 It does feel like a lot of stuff went down in New York. 468 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Right now, I'm going to meet Gene, 469 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,400 who worked for Diddy 470 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,920 for more than 20 years. 471 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,200 From the '90s, as a bodyguard, 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,400 he was one of the first people to speak out about his time with Diddy. 473 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,120 Hear what really happened from someone that was really there. 474 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:41,000 Former head of security for Bad Boy Entertainment, Gene Deal. 475 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,400 Puff comes over to me. I want you close by, you know, 476 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,960 cos if they try to do this shit, I'm going to snuff his ass. 477 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,720 I can't stop, I won't stop. Take that, take that. 478 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Cos you're going to know everything! 479 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:01,480 And what was New York like back then? 480 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,200 Can you paint a picture for me? All the hustlers, 481 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040 everybody had money, everybody dressed. 482 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,040 It was how fly you could be. 483 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,480 You understand? 484 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,200 You had to have two or three cars. You had to have jewellery. 485 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,160 You had to have money in your pocket. 486 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080 You had to be fly. 487 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,440 And where did everyone get the money from? 488 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,880 Uh, some people were street entrepreneurs. 489 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,280 That's a polite way of putting it. Yeah. 490 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,680 You got to realise everybody wanted to be where Bad Boy was at the time. 491 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,200 Mm. You had these beautiful women 492 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,360 that... 493 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:41,840 ..would just throw theirself at these people that they didn't even know... 494 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,160 Yeah. ..just to be around. 495 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,320 At that time, what was his energy like? 496 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,520 Did you ever heard the song Five People Inside of Me? 497 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,840 Puff was like that. OK. You have him, whereas that... 498 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560 ..he's that solemn, 499 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,640 down to earth, cool dude with his kids and stuff like that. 500 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,360 He had that, you had that person whereas that if you don't do 501 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,720 what he say do - you understand? 502 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,320 As far as in his business thing, he going to chop your head off. 503 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,360 You had that person there where 504 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,880 some people that he was generous to, 505 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,520 and then there's some people that he wouldn't piss on 506 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,080 when they was on fire. 507 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Especially to certain women on certain things. 508 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:29,840 You know what I'm saying? 509 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,000 From the Diddy that you met, did his personality change? 510 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,720 I think that had a lot to do with when he started using the drugs. 511 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,120 When was that? Uh, first of all, it came to be where, 512 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:44,200 after him and him and Kim Porter got into a big fight 513 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,760 and she took a corkscrew and ripped his right wrist. 514 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,760 And so he got...he got, you know, addicted to those opioids. 515 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,920 OK. And after that, I think he just went to a whole 'nother level. 516 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaking to Gene has made me think about 517 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,440 what else was going on at the time. 518 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,920 I wonder if Diddy's behaviour had become normalised, and if so, 519 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:17,040 how much people could have enabled his actions by their own inaction? 520 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,240 What were the parties like? 521 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,600 It's a party. What does that mean? 522 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,080 It means that you're dancing, you're drinking. 523 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,840 If you was a part of that, 524 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,440 you're having the best time of your life. 525 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Those after parties and stuff like that, 526 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,560 that didn't happen that I know of in New York. 527 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,000 It was only one party I ever been involved in 528 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,200 when some women that I brought - you understand? - 529 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,960 got... 530 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,840 ..uh, they drank champagne, 531 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,560 and then they felt dizzy and what you call. 532 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,000 But they was smart enough to go to the car. 533 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,440 You understand what I'm saying? 534 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,680 When I'm reading through the allegations, 535 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720 the word bodyguards comes up a lot. 536 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,160 What do you say to that? Well, but you got to understand this. 537 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,800 This happened after I was with him. 538 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,520 A 17-year-old man said in a complaint that he was 539 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440 sexually assaulted by both Diddy and a bodyguard... Whoa! 540 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,880 ..over a three day audition process 541 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,000 for the reality show Making the Band. 542 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,040 I was with Diddy during that time Making the Band. 543 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,760 So this allegation said that he was ultimately eliminated 544 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280 from the competition due to his reservations 545 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,080 about performing oral sex on the bodyguard. 546 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,280 Wow. And I have to ask you if it's you. 547 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,120 Get the hell out of here. Not at all. 548 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,280 Did you hear of any of that when you...? 549 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,960 I never heard that before. Until now. 550 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,960 Have you ever seen any footage of Diddy having sex on camera? 551 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,720 Never. 552 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,120 Now you want to know why I didn't see that? 553 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,640 Well, no, if you haven't seen it, you haven't seen it. 554 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200 But it's just... 555 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,240 It is so hard to fathom that if somebody is getting up to 556 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,040 all this stuff, and the person who is arguably one of the closest 557 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,080 in proximity to them, doesn't see anything... 558 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,640 You got those bodyguards that's with everything. 559 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,240 Anything and everything that you do - yeah, boss, uh-uh. 560 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,480 Then you got your bodyguards that, 561 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880 you know, if they do something, you do something, 562 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,160 they going to snitch on you, they going to tell. 563 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,840 You pick and choose. Which one you going to do your bullshit around? 564 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,240 I'm listening. 565 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,000 So you're not a yes man? Never been. Do I seem like a yes man? 566 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,560 Do I act like a yes man? Not today. Do it seems like...? 567 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Not no day. 568 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,720 Not no day. Never have been. 569 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,440 If Diddy did the things that he's accused of, 570 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,080 Gene, how could you not know? 571 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,480 How? 572 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,440 You could hear something. That's hearsay. 573 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,560 But to know something is to have to see it 574 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,480 and be around it. 575 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400 What happens when he's not with me, I'm not responsible for it. 576 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,320 You understand what I'm saying? 577 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Gene claims nothing happened on his watch. 578 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,560 But even though no-one else has been charged, 579 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,920 Diddy has been accused of running a criminal operation, 580 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,680 as well as kidnapping and making threats of violence. 581 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,000 Now, I want to find out from Roger Bonds, 582 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,960 another security chief, to see what it was like to work 583 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,280 in Diddy's inner circle. 584 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,600 Hi. How you doing? Yeah, I'm all right. 585 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600 Do you want to come take a seat? 586 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,360 You were working with him for about a decade, right, about ten years? 587 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,000 Yeah. I was with him since 2003, when he was up-and-coming. 588 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,880 At that time, I was kind of like a bad boy, you know what I'm saying? 589 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,680 I ended up at Rikers Island for manslaughter. 590 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,720 How old were you? 19 years old. 591 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,280 Trying to get other jobs, all they seen was, oh, he got a record. 592 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160 This, that and the other. So being with him, I was able 593 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,360 to kind of get away from that. 594 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,240 And it was just a way of taking care of my family. 595 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Can you describe what it was like to work for Diddy? 596 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200 When I first got with him, I looked up to him. 597 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,840 You know what I'm saying? As somebody that kind of, 598 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,600 like, not took over the world, 599 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,680 but took over my world as far as I could see it. 600 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,720 Like, I can remember the first time when he said, yo, tell Bonds 601 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,800 to come in the elevator with me. 602 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160 The way I felt, I was like, yo, he know my name? 603 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,320 You talking about a young man from Harlem. 604 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,680 You know what I'm saying? Somebody who didn't travel 605 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,840 outside of the five boroughs. 606 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,320 Imagine you - we in New York right now. 607 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,320 And when I wake up eight hours from now, we in London. 608 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,080 You know what I'm saying? 609 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880 I'm sitting down with Muhammad Ali one day, 610 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,160 then the next day going to France. You know what I'm saying? 611 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,920 It opens you up a lot of ways. 612 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,200 What do you think Diddy got from having somebody like you 613 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,200 as his security? 614 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Street credibility. 615 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,200 He has to be accepted by the toughest of the tough 616 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,440 in whatever city or state that he go to. 617 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,880 And he also knows that he has very loyal people. 618 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,280 His nucleus is very loyal, because we said we was brothers. 619 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,720 He's very smart when it comes to that. 620 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,040 So Diddy's the type of person that, as long as you there with him, 621 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,880 he'll be there for you. 622 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,280 But the minute that you're not there, 623 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,080 he tries to swish you under the rug. 624 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,000 You know how some people say family mean everything to him? 625 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,840 His love is money. Nothing is more important than money. 626 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,840 He needs to acquire it all to become powerful. 627 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,920 You know what I'm saying? I didn't come here to just fucking die. 628 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,320 I came here to live, man. Change the world and be great. 629 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,800 You know what I'm saying? I need more, more and more 630 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,360 and more and more. I need more than anybody. 631 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720 you can't understand 632 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,720 I'm starting to understand more about Diddy's personality 633 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:15,800 and what he would do to get to the top. 634 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,440 Oh, look, it's Biggie! 635 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,160 It's Biggie forever. Biggie forever, yes! 636 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,040 I love that. 637 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,240 In 1993, Diddy signed a then unknown Biggie Smalls to his up-and-coming 638 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,360 record label, Bad Boy. 639 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,080 Biggie quickly became the East Coast's biggest rapper. 640 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:42,040 His friend and rival was West Coast lyricist Tupac Shakur. 641 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,840 By the mid-90s, the friends had turned to enemies, 642 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,320 resulting in the murders of both artists. 643 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,560 Though Diddy has always denied being involved in their deaths, 644 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,000 the outlandish rumours are back in the spotlight. 645 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Prosecutors confirmed that Diddy's name was used 77 times 646 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,320 in documentation, alleging that Diddy was the one that put the hit 647 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,920 out on Tupac. 648 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,400 P Diddy, on Biggie's car, the night Biggie got shot... 649 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Oh, I've seen that! ..they put a sticker on like, the tyre. 650 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,240 Biggie was killed in a drive-by shooting less than 651 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:20,320 a year after Tupac's death. 652 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,480 Gene Deal, Diddy's bodyguard, was a witness to the murder. 653 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,760 I was right there. 654 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400 He stopped at the light. 655 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,560 A car came pulling out. We hear, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop! 656 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,320 Pulled Biggie out the car. I know he's dead. 657 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,760 Do you think Diddy had anything to do with it? 658 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,200 I think he's indirectly capable of it. 659 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,720 Setting somebody up. 660 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,200 Facts is, is that if Big and Tupac 661 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,680 would have gotten their own label and everything, 662 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,080 Bad Boy probably wouldn't have had the rise they did. 663 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040 The picture Gene paints of Diddy is someone 664 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,480 that was completely relentless in his pursuit of power 665 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,280 and global success. 666 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,920 And he achieved this in the wake of Biggie's death 667 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,400 by releasing one of the biggest selling records of all time. 668 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,760 Number one over here, back there, and possibly the whole universe... 669 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,200 ..the single of the summer... 670 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640 ..it's a tribute to the late Notorious B.I.G. 671 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,520 half your breath 672 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,200 your life after death 673 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,840 I blame you, personally, for inciting a whole nation to start 674 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,720 singing old Police songs. 675 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,920 Everywhere I go, you walk down the street, everyone's going, 676 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160 Everywhere. 677 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,640 And it's your fault. You know that? I'm sorry. 678 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,720 This catapulted him from producer... Yeah. 679 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,600 ..to... Artist. ..rapper to artist... Yeah. ..to the guy 680 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,520 that you're looking at in front of the camera. 681 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,600 After that success, Diddy was completely unstoppable. 682 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,560 It led to an empire that transcended music. 683 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,440 I'm shocked every day, like, I can't believe it. 684 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,080 Every day I just feel like I'm in this long, long dream. 685 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,040 Can you give me a ride home? Thank you! All right, baby. 686 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,040 I love you all. Thanks a lot. 687 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,680 His ability to draw people to him was somewhat unique. 688 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,320 So wherever he was, there was a throng of people wanting to get 689 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,800 as close as possible to the power that he represented 690 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,520 and the energy he was putting forth. 691 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,000 He's got a tremendous sense of where he's going. 692 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,600 I think really you have to say that he does epitomise 693 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,920 the American Dream. 694 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,560 The richer he got, the God syndrome came. 695 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,680 I'm very motherfucking wealthy. 696 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080 You're goddamn right. I could live wherever the fuck I want to live. 697 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640 Right. I could do whatever I want to do. Yeah. 698 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000 It feels like Diddy thought he was untouchable 699 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,640 and was quite happy to boast about the scale of his gatherings. 700 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,480 You're legendary for the parties that you throw. Mm-hm. 701 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,680 I'm a legend, baby, for a whole bunch of things. Yes. 702 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,960 The parties cemented his status. 703 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,440 And this fame infused itself into pop culture. 704 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,440 The more pervasive and notorious this activity was, 705 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,520 the more normalised the outrageousness became, 706 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,680 and the harder it was to tell fact from fiction. 707 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,320 I mean, Puff was a mythic sort of figure. 708 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,400 Sort of the Pied Piper of fun. 709 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,160 He had extreme cultural power. 710 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,080 People used to vie for him for invitations to those parties. 711 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,960 Everybody from actors to, you know, music artists to, you know, 712 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,200 fashion designers. You know, 713 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,680 Trump would come to the parties. 714 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,840 You were in the mix of the most culturally powerful people, 715 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,440 and it enabled you to kind of let your hair down a little bit. 716 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,000 You know, you had the illusion of safety. 717 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,040 The indictment alleges that Combs abused, 718 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,960 threatened and coerced victims to fulfil his sexual desires. 719 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,760 Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, 720 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,680 which he called freak-offs, 721 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,360 and he often electronically recorded them. 722 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,000 Come get some of this, come get some of this on... 723 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,800 We're going to put you in the middle, let you clean up. 724 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,560 Put you in the middle. 725 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,640 Did you ever witness any sexual abuse? 726 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,640 I know there always was two couples. 727 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,760 And that he would be butt naked in those rooms with the other men 728 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,920 and other women. 729 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,600 But all of them was consensual. 730 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,040 Yeah. I've been to the store, and I got the K-Y jelly, 731 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,000 and I got the baby oil, and I got the condoms. 732 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,320 These are things that he does to prep the room. 733 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,160 And it's been a couple of instances 734 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,400 where I hear the housekeeping get upset. 735 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,120 The baby oil all over the sheets and blood on the sheets. 736 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,600 But I've always thought this was just some freaky stuff that him 737 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,680 and his girl did. You know what I'm saying? 738 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,840 So are you saying that you may have inadvertently set up 739 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,080 the freak-offs... The baby oil, or whatever? ..when you're buying 740 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,800 the baby oil, when you're buying the K-Y jelly? No, because this is stuff 741 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,600 that he has in his house that he does anyway. 742 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,320 OK. You know what I'm saying? 743 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,760 So the assistants is really the ones that prep everything. 744 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,800 So if he asks me to go get some baby oil or something, 745 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,280 it was because it was a last minute thing. 746 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,200 Now it makes sense. When I listen to a lot of things, I say, 747 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,680 damn, for real, that what was going on? 748 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,560 And have you ever heard of him 749 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,680 showing people tapes of him having sex? 750 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,480 I've never seen him do anything like that, 751 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,560 but I do know that he used to keep his... 752 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,840 One of his assistants used to keep a camcorder with him. 753 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,280 And I remember one time a little tiny tape got lost 754 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,240 and he went fucking ape - yo, you sure y'all ain't see the bag? 755 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,880 Y'all didn't see the tape? This, that and the other. 756 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,480 Us being security, we wasn't privy to the tape, 757 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,560 but I do know that they carried a camcorder with them. 758 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600 Did you ever witness 759 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,480 Diddy using threatening or intimidating behaviour? 760 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,640 Well, he said some shit that I didn't like before. 761 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,520 You know, he was speaking about, uh, Danity Kane. 762 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,080 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He had said that, 763 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,360 they going to keep fucking around with me, 764 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,480 and I'm going to drug their ass, I'm going to pimp them out 765 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,120 to my BLEEP. 766 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,720 And when he said that shit, I said, yo, 767 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:53,040 them somebody's daughters, what the fuck is you talking about? 768 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,360 Nobody in the studio said nothing, 769 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,920 and they looking at me like I'm crazy. 770 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,080 You hear a lot of stories about Diddy and his temper. 771 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,040 Did you ever witness it? 772 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,760 Of course. 773 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,200 And he can go to one to ten in a matter of seconds. 774 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,360 Savage! I'm a savage! 775 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,160 Ooooh! 776 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,520 I'm a savage! Whatever I want, I'm going to get! 777 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,480 Whatever I want, I have to get! 778 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,040 The craziest thing I seen him do was the Cassie situation. 779 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,920 Everybody meet Cassie. You all know who this is. 780 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,400 How did you meet Cassie? When did you meet her? 781 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,080 She came out with her boyfriend then, Ryan. 782 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,880 And Ryan is a producer that - 783 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,280 that's something else that was very important 784 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600 that attracted you to his situation, 785 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,280 can I sell something more than just records? 786 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,680 Like, I laugh at it because two weeks later, 787 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,000 she came back, but she came back by herself this time. 788 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000 So Diddy had told him like, yo, yeah, 789 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,720 she could come back, but make sure Ryan ain't with her. 790 00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:02,720 So in his mind, he had already knew what he was going to try to do. 791 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,480 You're signed to Diddy's label? Yes. 792 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,280 What was it like the first time you met him? Were you starstruck? 793 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,720 I was so nervous, so nervous. 794 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,880 But we sat down for about two hours, 795 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,520 talked about my career and the future, and it was great. 796 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,320 You know, it turned out amazing. And he's a great guy. Great guy. 797 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,200 See, one thing about Diddy is, he's a great reader of people. 798 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,440 Of course, he wouldn't be where he was at in life if he didn't. 799 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920 So he seen what she was excited by. 800 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,000 Then you got to remember she was 17, 801 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,640 18 years old when she first came around. 802 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,360 You know what I'm saying? So when you're with somebody 803 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,480 for ten years and you're at the age of 18, 804 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,720 they're, they're - in a way, they moulded you. 805 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:46,320 Keep up, keep up, keep up. 806 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,400 Oh, who's this? No! Who's this? Who's this? 807 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,960 Who's this? Say what's up to the people. Hi, people. 808 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,880 Say what's up to the people. That shit is bright! 809 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,400 Say what's up to people. Hey, people. That's Cass right there. 810 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,040 She's in the vocal booth doing what she got to do. 811 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,760 It was a toxic relationship that he had to be in control of, 812 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,920 where she tried to be her own person, 813 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,400 or tried to, uh, find her way, 814 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080 he would be like, nah, she can't take that. 815 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,520 Or, yo, they got to give up more money. 816 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,800 What? What you got to say now? 817 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,680 You ain't BLEEP got to say. 818 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,240 When you see two people fight, you don't really think nothing of it. 819 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:28,560 But when you start seeing a man 820 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,960 using that same strength that you would fight a guy with, 821 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,520 you know what I'm saying? 822 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,080 It's just like, when you hit your son or you hit your daughter, 823 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,240 you don't hit your son or your daughter with that authority of, 824 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,840 I'm fighting a BLEEP in the street. 825 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,960 You hit your son or your daughter enough 826 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,280 that they may know who's in authority. 827 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,720 And when I seen a fight break out where I felt like, 828 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,800 oh, no, he must be forgetting this is Cassie, 829 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,480 then I would always jump in between it. 830 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,680 You know. I can remember one time we were on Sunset Boulevard, 831 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,120 Cassie was basically talking to another manager. 832 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,840 And he grabbed her, he threw on the floor, 833 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,840 you know what I'm saying? And he kicked her. 834 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,680 And I seen, like, a look, like, that person 835 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,640 don't even look the same no more. You know what I'm saying? 836 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:22,480 He was actually kicking her on the floor, 837 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,520 so I jumped in between it. 838 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,400 I grabbed him and I held him. 839 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,440 So when I snatched him up, 840 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,400 I'm whispering in his ear the whole time, I'm like, 841 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,880 yo, we're on Sunset Boulevard, you know? 842 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,880 Unless you think you're untouchable, 843 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,600 that you could have threw away your whole career 844 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,680 in those matter of seconds. 845 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:48,360 Did you, did you ever... 846 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,360 ..tell her to leave, advise her to leave? 847 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,160 Every conversation that I had with Cassie, 848 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,800 or I've seen other people have with Cassie, 849 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,520 she always reported back to him. 850 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,880 I've seen Diddy have his assistant sit there 851 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,920 and go through each and every email 852 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,760 or text that Cassie might have had on her phone. 853 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,040 Diddy has a look and then Cassie would be quiet. 854 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,160 Just the fear in her made her feel like 855 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,840 if she didn't tell him something was going to happen. 856 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,320 So when you have that type of power 857 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,560 and implement that type of fear in a person, yo, 858 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,760 it's hard to talk to him. 859 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,400 Do you feel somewhat responsible? 860 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,520 Of course. A lot of people would say, 861 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,640 yo, you did what you could. You stepped in while you was there. 862 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,560 But I feel like I was asleep on my job. 863 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,560 Diddy has denied all allegations of abuse, 864 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,920 but there is one instance that isn't in doubt. 865 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,640 Because only when that video of 866 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,000 what happened in that hotel dropped 867 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,680 did people start to believe... 868 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,200 ..what she said happened. 869 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,920 Before that, 870 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,720 when she first dropped her lawsuit 871 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:19,480 and the whole world was able to read those allegations, 872 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,880 people made fun of her. 873 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,560 People called her a gold digger. 874 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,600 They called her an attention grabber. 875 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,320 And that's when the world started to think... 876 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,440 ..do we really know who P Diddy is? 877 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,600 Looks like she tried to escape while he was sleeping. 878 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,040 She's not wearing any shoes. 879 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,760 She's trying to call for help on the phone. 880 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,760 She claims in her lawsuit 881 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,560 that this is not the first time that he's done it. 882 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,960 If so, she may have a familiar pattern of behaviour 883 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,960 that she goes through to try 884 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,520 and stop the assault from continuing. 885 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,560 It's disgusting. 886 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,360 It makes you quite emotional. 887 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,440 Diddy issued a rather unconvincing public apology 888 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,080 for the footage that had been captured. 889 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:39,560 It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in your life. 890 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,240 But sometimes you got to do that. 891 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,560 I was fucked up. 892 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:48,440 I mean, I hit rock-bottom. 893 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,360 But I make no excuses. 894 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,040 My behaviour on that video is inexcusable. 895 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,400 I'm going to rehab. 896 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,680 I had to ask God for his mercy and grace. 897 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,760 I'm truly sorry. 898 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,800 He denied all of the allegations in Cassie's civil suit, 899 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,080 which alleged rape, physical abuse and sex trafficking. 900 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,560 The suit was settled within 24 hours 901 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,240 for a reported $30 million. 902 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,560 Probably the dumbest decision that he's made was not to settle 903 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,200 with her before she filed the complaint, 904 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,520 because it inspired a lot of other people 905 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,160 to come forward and say, oh, my God, if Cassie has this level 906 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,720 of courage, maybe I can too. 907 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,680 The number of cases could still go up. 908 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,040 It's important to say 909 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,680 that Sean Combs has denied all of the allegations against him. 910 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,240 Lisa Bloom came to prominence acting 911 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:57,800 for some of Jeffrey Epstein's victims. 912 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,720 She's now representing a woman called Dawn Richard 913 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:03,320 in the civil case against Sean Combs. 914 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,120 We have the criminal allegations, 915 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,040 which is what he's going to face trial for. Right. 916 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,360 And then there are the civil allegations. 917 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,160 What is the difference between the two? 918 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,920 The civil side where I operate is less known, 919 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,120 and that is simply filing a lawsuit for money damages. 920 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,840 So that's to get compensation for victims, 921 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,400 for the emotional distress that they've endured, 922 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,040 the damage to their career, 923 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,120 the damage psychologically to their relationships, their self-esteem. 924 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,600 And that's what we're seeking in our lawsuit for Dawn Richard. 925 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,280 Why don't people just leave? 926 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,960 I think it's very easy for people to sit back and say, 927 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,720 well, I would've left. 928 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,000 I would've punched him in the face. 929 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,800 I would've called the police. 930 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,120 That's about 1 in 1,000 who do that. 931 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,320 We have a lot of psychological research at this point 932 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,840 about how victims behave when it's a known perpetrator. 933 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,040 Somebody you might care about. 934 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,280 Those are the victims who are the least likely to leave. 935 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,200 And that's because of the psychological mechanisms 936 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,480 of denial, shame, self-blame. 937 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,280 A victim has to work through all of this. 938 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,400 So what do you say to those who 939 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,440 believe that people file these allegations, 940 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,680 these lawsuits, for attention, or that it's just untrue 941 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,720 and to bring someone down who's already on the fall? 942 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,160 Well, Dawn Richard certainly didn't file her case for attention. 943 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,760 She doesn't need attention. 944 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,480 She's a very successful musician and artist in her own right. 945 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,200 There's not a person in the world who wants the attention for being 946 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,880 an alleged victim of sexual harassment or sexual assault. 947 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,280 That's just the most unpleasant situation to be in, 948 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,400 in the public eye. You know, and Dawn knew, 949 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,240 that you're going to get a lot of hate, a lot of insults, 950 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:56,400 a lot of nastiness online. 951 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,120 People show up at their homes, they knock on the door, 952 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,960 they leave death threats. It's terrifying. 953 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,120 Um, again, if anybody thinks there's something fun about sitting on 954 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,680 the witness stand talking about the most intimate, 955 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,400 horrific details of your life and having a very 956 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,720 skilled attorney cross-examine you for hours and hours, 957 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:16,640 they really lack compassion. 958 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,720 It is a gruelling experience. 959 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,960 I've been in trials with victims 960 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,640 where they were cross-examined for almost three days. 961 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,640 You've faced Jeffrey Epstein, 962 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,360 Bill Cosby, now P Diddy, like, these huge characters. 963 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,640 What's the most difficult part of that job? 964 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,040 Sad but true, when you have a lot of money, 965 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,680 you're probably going to do better 966 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,000 in our legal system than somebody who doesn't have money. 967 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,760 That's just the way it is. You can hire better lawyers, 968 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,360 endure for a long period of time paying out 969 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,440 those legal fees to those attorneys. 970 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,080 I would say also access. You know, 971 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,960 Sean Combs had many powerful friends. 972 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,120 So somebody who is just an everyday person might say, 973 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,520 how could I possibly go up against Sean Combs? 974 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,720 He's friendly with people at the highest levels, 975 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:11,880 not only of the music industry, but the business world, politics. 976 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,080 You know, people just feel like, 977 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,360 how could I possibly stand up to somebody like that? 978 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,680 Some people have so much power 979 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,720 and have gotten away with things for so long, 980 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,360 they feel that they can just do anything, 981 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,400 they will always get away with it. 982 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,760 But in the legal system it's a whole different thing. 983 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,200 Lawyers for Sean Diddy Combs made their third attempt at bail, 984 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,240 but prosecutors asked why Combs would follow 985 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,720 the rules outside of jail when they say he has been trying 986 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:44,520 to obstruct the case from inside of jail? 987 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,560 They say he cannot be trusted. 988 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,120 Ghislaine Maxwell, 989 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,400 R Kelly, 990 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,080 they've spent time... 991 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,480 ..in that building where one of 992 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,040 the most famous rappers of my generation 993 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,520 currently resides. 994 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,000 When you were that rich, that powerful, 995 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,880 you think you're untouchable, right? You think that you are invincible. 996 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,560 Diddy has been refused bail multiple times, 997 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,920 as prosecutors fear 998 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,840 he will intimidate witnesses before the trial. 999 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,200 Cos he still has that power. 1000 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,880 That power hasn't diminished amongst some people. 1001 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,720 You got to realise he put people in certain high places. Mmm. 1002 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:47,080 Then he's working for people in high places. 1003 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,200 You know what I'm saying? 1004 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,560 If you come out and speak up on him, 1005 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,040 they may think that one day you might come out and speak on them. 1006 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,440 Are you surprised by any of the allegations? 1007 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,880 If you were a nosy person, you could find out 1008 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,600 whatever you want to find out. 1009 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,760 I think a part of me was just, 1010 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,960 I don't want to know none of that shit, 1011 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,240 because then I'm not held accountable 1012 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:08,720 for knowing some of this shit. 1013 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,800 So, my thing was always turning 1014 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,440 my cheek to another side. I don't want to know about 1015 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,680 your personal business. 1016 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,040 So would you say you turned a blind eye? 1017 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,800 To certain things. 1018 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,960 If I asked something outside of what I'm supposed to do, 1019 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,600 and, you know, Bonds asking questions, and he's the type of, 1020 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,800 yo, what you asking about that for? What you worrying about that for? 1021 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,880 You know what I'm saying? 1022 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,040 And that's something you don't want to come about. 1023 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,440 Do you still think that he wields that power? 1024 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,000 Am I fearful for my safety? Yes. 1025 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,480 The people that he's around and the people that he knows, 1026 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,160 it's a very scary thing. 1027 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,320 I think it's really messed up how the industry is, 1028 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,800 how people look the other way. 1029 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,240 There is always going to be that element there of 1030 00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:00,200 this person's in power and you are kind of vulnerable. 1031 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,320 I don't see executives at the top really caring, 1032 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,280 really doing anything about this problem. You know, 1033 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,120 female artists can't be expected to take all this on by themselves. 1034 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,880 When you're talking about the reckoning, 1035 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,440 the potential reckoning, it's not just a few people, 1036 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,240 it is culture. And so you're really talking about, you know, 1037 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:28,080 something that doesn't have borders. 1038 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,080 If he do get out of this, I believe he could bounce back. 1039 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,320 Donald Trump. Perfect example. 1040 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,480 He's the biggest thug in the whole world, 1041 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,120 and he's more than 30 felony accounts. 1042 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,760 And he still became our president. 1043 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,320 And I believe Puffy could come back from that as well. 1044 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,400 Would you work with him again? Nah. 1045 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,240 Is there a scenario in which P Diddy somehow comes back 1046 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,960 from this, after everything that has happened? 1047 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,960 I don't think so. You know, 1048 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,040 I don't think that we can ignore 1049 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,600 the 100-plus allegations. 1050 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560 And, in particular, 1051 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,560 I don't think we can unsee that video. 1052 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,480 Enough, you know? Enough now. 1053 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,760 It's enough. 1054 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,120 Yeah. 1055 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,920 With hip-hop having soundtracked my life, 1056 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,840 maybe I shouldn't be that surprised about the misogyny 1057 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,440 and the view of women that is so embedded within its culture. 1058 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,240 But the scale of the allegations against Diddy point to an attitude 1059 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,920 of complete disregard of humans for the sake of money and power. 1060 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,880 I'm very motherfucking wealthy. 1061 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,560 You're goddamn right. I can live wherever the fuck I want to live. 1062 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,000 Right. I can do whatever I want to do. Yeah. 1063 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,520 Power seeps down. 1064 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,760 It also corrupts those around you. 1065 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,440 We are not done. This investigation is ongoing 1066 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,080 and I encourage anyone with information about this case 1067 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,280 to come forward and to do it quickly. 1068 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,960 No-one is untouchable and no-one should be untouchable. 1069 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,160 And if there's ever a time for it to get better 1070 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,640 or to start to get better, 1071 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,520 I mean, yesterday is a great time, but today is OK. 1072 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,200 Mr Combs' legal team said 1073 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,000 that the allegations in this documentary were...