1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,857 --> 00:00:11,569 ♪ [rock and roll drums come up] ♪ 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:15,824 --> 00:00:19,369 ♪ [synthesizer comes up] ♪ 5 00:00:22,872 --> 00:00:26,167 ♪ [Female vocalist harmonizing] ♪ 6 00:00:54,571 --> 00:00:56,573 ♪ He told me, ♪ 7 00:00:57,198 --> 00:00:59,617 ♪ "I've seen it rise. ♪ 8 00:01:00,702 --> 00:01:06,583 ♪ But, it always falls. ♪ 9 00:01:09,502 --> 00:01:14,716 ♪ I've seen him come, I've seen him go." ♪ 10 00:01:15,884 --> 00:01:22,807 ♪ He said,"All things pass into the night." ♪ 11 00:01:23,641 --> 00:01:29,147 ♪ And I said, "Oh no, sir, I must say wrong. ♪ 12 00:01:30,356 --> 00:01:36,779 ♪ I must disagree. Oh no, sir, I must say wrong ♪ 13 00:01:37,989 --> 00:01:40,158 ♪ Won't you listen to me?" ♪ 14 00:01:40,575 --> 00:01:42,702 ♪ He told me, ♪ 15 00:01:43,411 --> 00:01:46,164 ♪ "I've seen it all before. ♪ 16 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:49,876 ♪ I've been there. ♪ 17 00:01:50,668 --> 00:01:55,423 ♪ I've seen my hopes and dreams lying on the ground. ♪ 18 00:01:55,882 --> 00:02:01,512 ♪ I've seen the sky just begin to fall." ♪ 19 00:02:01,804 --> 00:02:08,895 ♪ He said, "All things pass into the night." ♪ 20 00:02:09,395 --> 00:02:14,943 ♪ And I said, "Oh no, sir. I must say wrong. ♪ 21 00:02:16,277 --> 00:02:22,784 ♪ I must disagree. Oh no, sir, I must say wrong. ♪ 22 00:02:23,868 --> 00:02:26,913 ♪ Won't you listen to me?" ♪ 23 00:02:30,375 --> 00:02:32,752 I grew up in Mexico City in the 1980s 24 00:02:33,002 --> 00:02:35,380 and my life revolved around music. 25 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:37,799 I bought my first record when I was 6, 26 00:02:38,049 --> 00:02:40,134 a 45 of Blondie's "Heart of Glass" 27 00:02:40,385 --> 00:02:42,387 and listened to the radio constantly, 28 00:02:42,637 --> 00:02:45,306 recording songs onto cassette tapes. 29 00:02:45,932 --> 00:02:47,684 My sister and I would spend our weekends 30 00:02:47,934 --> 00:02:49,352 singing our favorite songs 31 00:02:49,602 --> 00:02:50,728 and recording each other, 32 00:02:50,979 --> 00:02:52,981 and at this point I discovered my next love... 33 00:02:53,231 --> 00:02:54,691 Making movies. 34 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:57,986 In high school, I started going dancing at Goth clubs 35 00:02:58,236 --> 00:03:00,363 and going to the movies every week. 36 00:03:00,613 --> 00:03:02,448 I went to see The Silence of the Lambs 37 00:03:02,699 --> 00:03:03,950 and was instantly struck by 38 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,288 the haunting song that Jame Gumb dances to in his dress-up scene. 39 00:03:08,538 --> 00:03:12,625 The song was "Goodbye Horses" by someone named Q Lazzarus. 40 00:03:13,001 --> 00:03:15,169 A few years later, I moved to New York City, 41 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:17,797 went to film school and learned how to DJ. 42 00:03:18,047 --> 00:03:19,757 I started throwing weekly parties 43 00:03:20,008 --> 00:03:21,634 and would usually play "Goodbye Horses". 44 00:03:21,884 --> 00:03:23,511 The crowds loved it. 45 00:03:25,179 --> 00:03:28,433 ♪ ["Goodbye Horses" playing in background] ♪ 46 00:03:36,691 --> 00:03:39,027 I tried to find more music by Q Lazzarus, 47 00:03:39,277 --> 00:03:41,988 but there was none to be found other than that song. 48 00:03:42,238 --> 00:03:44,449 But I did learn that Q was named Diane Luckey 49 00:03:44,699 --> 00:03:47,201 and that she'd been a taxi driver in the 80s. 50 00:03:47,452 --> 00:03:48,953 I also learned that she'd completely vanished 51 00:03:49,203 --> 00:03:50,621 in the mid-1990s, 52 00:03:50,872 --> 00:03:52,498 and that none of her friends or collaborators 53 00:03:52,749 --> 00:03:54,959 had any idea what had happened to her. 54 00:03:55,209 --> 00:03:57,795 Some even thought she might be dead. 55 00:03:58,421 --> 00:03:59,922 Meanwhile, the song "Goodbye Horses" 56 00:04:00,173 --> 00:04:01,799 became more and more popular, 57 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:04,844 with several bands doing covers of it. 58 00:04:05,970 --> 00:04:09,390 ♪ [Various versions of "Goodbye Horses"] ♪ 59 00:04:11,309 --> 00:04:13,186 ♪ He told me... ♪ 60 00:04:14,270 --> 00:04:16,522 ♪ I’ve seen it rise... ♪ 61 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:18,983 ♪ But... ♪ 62 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,238 ♪ It always falls. ♪ 63 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:30,953 ♪ I've seen him come, I've seen him go. ♪ 64 00:04:32,497 --> 00:04:33,915 ♪ He said... ♪ 65 00:04:34,207 --> 00:04:39,462 ♪ All things pass into the night. ♪ 66 00:04:40,088 --> 00:04:41,005 ♪ And I said.. 67 00:04:41,255 --> 00:04:45,510 "Oh no sir, I must say wrong"... ♪ 68 00:04:46,719 --> 00:04:50,598 ♪ I must disagree Oh no, sir... ♪ 69 00:04:51,516 --> 00:04:54,477 It was also featured in a Gucci commercial, 70 00:04:54,727 --> 00:04:56,896 several video games, 71 00:04:57,355 --> 00:04:59,774 TV shows and movies. 72 00:05:01,109 --> 00:05:02,777 My DJ days wound down and 73 00:05:03,027 --> 00:05:04,862 I focused increasingly on filmmaking, 74 00:05:05,113 --> 00:05:06,864 but I never stopped wondering what 75 00:05:07,115 --> 00:05:09,367 had happened to Diane Luckey. 76 00:05:09,992 --> 00:05:13,037 In 2019 I read an article in Dazed and Confused 77 00:05:13,287 --> 00:05:14,872 in which the writer went to an address listed 78 00:05:15,123 --> 00:05:16,332 for a Diane Luckey 79 00:05:16,582 --> 00:05:19,627 in Staten Island, but she was unable to find her. 80 00:05:20,336 --> 00:05:21,379 A few months later, 81 00:05:21,629 --> 00:05:23,923 I called a car service to go from Brooklyn to Manhattan 82 00:05:24,173 --> 00:05:26,759 and struck up a conversation with the driver. 83 00:05:27,009 --> 00:05:29,262 She was an African-American woman in her late 50s, 84 00:05:29,512 --> 00:05:31,889 and mentioned she lived in Staten Island. 85 00:05:32,140 --> 00:05:33,433 She was playing Neil Young, 86 00:05:33,683 --> 00:05:35,268 and I asked her if she had ever seen him live, 87 00:05:35,518 --> 00:05:38,938 to which she replied, "My concert days are long gone." 88 00:05:39,188 --> 00:05:41,983 I then asked if she had ever seen Q Lazzarus. 89 00:05:42,233 --> 00:05:44,944 She was a bit taken aback, and said she'd heard of her, 90 00:05:45,194 --> 00:05:46,863 and changed the subject. 91 00:05:47,113 --> 00:05:48,990 And then, when we got to Manhattan 92 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,867 and I was about to get out of the car, 93 00:05:51,117 --> 00:05:53,995 she turned and extended her hand, and said, 94 00:05:54,245 --> 00:05:56,998 "Nice to meet you Eva, I'm Q." 95 00:05:59,333 --> 00:06:04,046 We're doing this documentary to let you know what went wrong, 96 00:06:04,297 --> 00:06:05,840 and what happened. 97 00:06:06,132 --> 00:06:07,383 The truth! 98 00:06:08,801 --> 00:06:12,346 That why I disappeared. 99 00:06:14,223 --> 00:06:15,850 Because I had to. 100 00:06:20,563 --> 00:06:24,817 ♪ [Electronic music comes up] ♪ 101 00:06:44,212 --> 00:06:46,255 ♪ Yesterday ♪ 102 00:06:47,381 --> 00:06:49,634 ♪ Half the world ♪ 103 00:06:51,344 --> 00:06:54,138 ♪ Was coming on to me ♪ 104 00:06:58,893 --> 00:07:02,271 ♪ Now it's today ♪ 105 00:07:03,314 --> 00:07:05,566 ♪ that I need ♪ 106 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,904 ♪ someone to be with me. ♪ 107 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:19,914 ♪ Ooh have you ever had a love ♪ 108 00:07:20,164 --> 00:07:23,751 ♪ that you could only think of? ♪ 109 00:07:24,001 --> 00:07:26,712 ♪ Pictures in my mind ♪ 110 00:07:26,963 --> 00:07:30,800 ♪ Ooh leaving them behind. ♪ 111 00:07:31,050 --> 00:07:33,427 ♪ Your love is my mistake ♪ 112 00:07:38,599 --> 00:07:41,102 Hello Q! Hi, girl. 113 00:07:44,605 --> 00:07:46,691 Say: I'm back! 114 00:07:48,317 --> 00:07:51,904 ♪ I was living in a dream ♪ 115 00:07:52,154 --> 00:07:53,906 ♪ a dream ♪ 116 00:07:55,032 --> 00:07:57,034 ♪ with no peace... ♪ 117 00:07:58,578 --> 00:08:00,997 ♪ [Electronic music fades out] ♪ 118 00:08:03,374 --> 00:08:05,042 [laughter] 119 00:08:05,334 --> 00:08:07,169 I really gotta tell you guys. 120 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:13,175 This is like really going over a person's life...[laughing] 121 00:08:13,926 --> 00:08:18,931 that has been, you know, under the ground... 122 00:08:19,807 --> 00:08:22,059 for a really long time. 123 00:08:22,310 --> 00:08:28,357 Umm, I think since Philadelphia, the movie. 124 00:08:31,736 --> 00:08:34,822 So much I haven't looked at in so many years. 125 00:08:35,072 --> 00:08:37,199 We're talking 30 years here. 126 00:08:38,284 --> 00:08:40,119 Close to it. 127 00:08:43,247 --> 00:08:48,544 So these are my parents in Asbury Park, New Jersey. 128 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:52,798 My father was a veteran of World War II, 129 00:08:53,132 --> 00:08:57,219 and he had the opportunity to buy a beautiful home 130 00:08:57,470 --> 00:09:00,306 in Neptune, New Jersey. 131 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,058 And that's where we lived. 132 00:09:02,308 --> 00:09:04,602 My mother and father had 7 children, 133 00:09:04,852 --> 00:09:08,648 and all of us are alive except my sister Sharon. 134 00:09:09,357 --> 00:09:13,736 I decided I wanted to be a singer when 135 00:09:14,445 --> 00:09:21,035 my elementary school teacher decided to take us to see 136 00:09:21,285 --> 00:09:24,205 Bubbling Brown Sugar in New York. 137 00:09:24,622 --> 00:09:26,290 ♪ [band strikes up] ♪ 138 00:09:26,540 --> 00:09:29,126 ♪ [spirited musical chorus] ♪ 139 00:09:37,426 --> 00:09:39,804 I decided that that's where I was gonna live, 140 00:09:40,054 --> 00:09:41,847 and I was gonna be a singer, 141 00:09:42,098 --> 00:09:45,142 and I wasn't quite sure if I was gonna be a Broadway singer, 142 00:09:45,393 --> 00:09:47,687 or a rock star, 143 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:51,732 a pop star, whatever, but I was gonna sing. 144 00:09:52,233 --> 00:09:56,112 I was about 12 years old and I turned to the church. 145 00:09:56,362 --> 00:09:59,073 And I had my own choir. 146 00:09:59,323 --> 00:10:01,659 And we used to travel up and down 147 00:10:01,909 --> 00:10:04,829 to different Baptist churches and sing, 148 00:10:05,329 --> 00:10:06,789 and we were quite good. 149 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:08,290 We were quite good. 150 00:10:08,541 --> 00:10:11,419 Okay so let me explain to you a little bit about the church, 151 00:10:11,669 --> 00:10:12,795 Mount Pisgah, 152 00:10:13,045 --> 00:10:15,089 the church that I was raised up in. 153 00:10:15,339 --> 00:10:18,384 Our family played a very big part in the church 154 00:10:18,634 --> 00:10:21,804 because my mother and father had 7 children. 155 00:10:22,179 --> 00:10:25,558 We were in the choir, we were missionaries. 156 00:10:25,808 --> 00:10:30,146 You know, all the activities in the church we were part of. 157 00:10:30,396 --> 00:10:33,274 And here it is... 158 00:10:33,816 --> 00:10:35,818 Mount Pisgah Baptist Church. 159 00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:37,987 And it looks the same. 160 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:40,906 Believe it or not, it looks the same. 161 00:10:41,198 --> 00:10:43,784 Now I can see that... 162 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:47,413 Oh, some of the sisters are still here. 163 00:10:47,663 --> 00:10:50,833 Lemme go ask whether or not the church is still open. 164 00:10:51,083 --> 00:10:53,377 Ooh, girl! 165 00:10:54,628 --> 00:10:56,130 [warm laughter] 166 00:10:58,257 --> 00:11:00,176 Oh my goodness! 167 00:11:01,844 --> 00:11:03,429 Miss Diane Luckey! 168 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,307 You know I go under Q Lazzarus now, 169 00:11:06,557 --> 00:11:09,351 and we're doing a film. Give me a hug! 170 00:11:09,727 --> 00:11:12,938 - Girl, lookee here. - You guys don't be ageing. 171 00:11:13,189 --> 00:11:15,566 Tell me what the secret is, if you say Vaseline 172 00:11:15,816 --> 00:11:17,318 I'm gonna hit you! 173 00:11:17,568 --> 00:11:21,906 - I just say Jesus! - Just keeping moving, right? 174 00:11:22,156 --> 00:11:25,159 As you can see, when we rolled up, 175 00:11:25,409 --> 00:11:27,203 they knew me right away. 176 00:11:27,453 --> 00:11:29,205 [warm laughter] 177 00:11:29,747 --> 00:11:32,291 It's so good to see them because 178 00:11:32,541 --> 00:11:35,753 those women, literally they're all I knew. 179 00:11:36,086 --> 00:11:41,258 I went from school, home to church. 180 00:11:41,592 --> 00:11:44,011 School, home to church. 181 00:11:44,637 --> 00:11:46,806 And that's the way it was, honey. 182 00:11:47,473 --> 00:11:49,683 Growing up in... 183 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:53,270 such a spiritual home... 184 00:11:54,438 --> 00:11:58,234 was difficult and the reason being is that... 185 00:12:01,862 --> 00:12:05,407 All of us were very musical and 186 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,993 it wasn't about singing spirituals, 187 00:12:08,244 --> 00:12:09,995 it was about R&B. 188 00:12:10,329 --> 00:12:12,915 It was about what was being played on the radio. 189 00:12:13,165 --> 00:12:14,583 And what we were listening to. 190 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:16,252 And what we were listening to. 191 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:24,051 I'm in the genre of Dionne Warwick and Anita Baker. 192 00:12:24,844 --> 00:12:28,514 And you always wanted to be Rod Stewart! 193 00:12:28,764 --> 00:12:29,974 That's right! 194 00:12:30,891 --> 00:12:32,977 - So... - Sorry! 195 00:12:33,227 --> 00:12:37,022 That was something that I had to try to ascertain why. 196 00:12:37,273 --> 00:12:41,068 Because that was not in the house at all. 197 00:12:41,318 --> 00:12:41,777 No. 198 00:12:42,236 --> 00:12:45,489 What first inspired me was the fact that 199 00:12:45,739 --> 00:12:48,868 my older sister could sing. 200 00:12:49,743 --> 00:12:52,830 And went after her dream. 201 00:12:53,247 --> 00:12:55,499 She didn't go after higher education 202 00:12:55,749 --> 00:12:57,501 or a husband and children 203 00:12:57,751 --> 00:12:59,253 with a picket fence or whatever. 204 00:12:59,503 --> 00:13:01,255 She went after her dream. 205 00:13:01,505 --> 00:13:03,299 And when you go after your dream, 206 00:13:03,549 --> 00:13:05,301 there's nothing like it. 207 00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:07,303 There's good times and bad times, 208 00:13:07,553 --> 00:13:09,597 but there's nothing like it. 209 00:13:10,848 --> 00:13:15,853 So I decided at 18 it's time for me to go to New York, 210 00:13:16,103 --> 00:13:19,189 and it was against my parent's wishes because 211 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,067 they wanted to see me go on to college. 212 00:13:22,318 --> 00:13:25,988 And I just didn't have the patience to wait for that. 213 00:13:26,405 --> 00:13:29,116 [guitar music comes up] ♪ Summertime ♪ 214 00:13:29,909 --> 00:13:33,162 I lived in the Bronx on Teller Avenue, the south Bronx. 215 00:13:33,454 --> 00:13:36,248 That was some really tough times, and that was when rap 216 00:13:36,498 --> 00:13:39,126 just started to come out. 217 00:13:40,502 --> 00:13:43,213 I used to do backup work in some studios 218 00:13:43,464 --> 00:13:48,385 and it just wasn't giving me enough, so I started writing. 219 00:13:48,886 --> 00:13:53,933 I became a taxi driver because of my lifestyle. 220 00:13:54,224 --> 00:13:56,977 I couldn't get a regular paying 9-5, 221 00:13:57,227 --> 00:13:58,646 and I didn't want one. 222 00:13:58,896 --> 00:14:00,147 I always wanted to be free, 223 00:14:00,397 --> 00:14:02,650 be able to get up and go when I want to go. 224 00:14:02,942 --> 00:14:04,276 Do what I want to do. 225 00:14:04,526 --> 00:14:08,656 That's when I started getting real serious about my music. 226 00:14:08,948 --> 00:14:12,409 The melody was not going towards gospel, 227 00:14:12,993 --> 00:14:17,706 or soul, R&B, 228 00:14:18,123 --> 00:14:20,542 you know rhythm and blues. 229 00:14:21,752 --> 00:14:24,546 It was heading towards rock. 230 00:14:24,922 --> 00:14:28,008 ♪ Until that morning...♪ 231 00:14:28,717 --> 00:14:32,513 ♪ There ain't nothing gonna harm you... ♪ 232 00:14:34,807 --> 00:14:42,064 ♪ Cause your Momma and Daddy is standing by. ♪ 233 00:14:43,148 --> 00:14:48,487 Well, I met Bill Garvey at the Lower East Side... 234 00:14:49,905 --> 00:14:51,323 at a party. 235 00:14:51,573 --> 00:14:55,619 And we started hanging out just me and him, 236 00:14:55,869 --> 00:14:57,204 and writing. 237 00:14:57,454 --> 00:14:59,498 We performed at SNAFU, 238 00:14:59,748 --> 00:15:02,418 that was my first little performance. 239 00:15:02,835 --> 00:15:06,088 And I performed at the Pyramid down in the East Village, 240 00:15:06,338 --> 00:15:08,132 and a couple of other little places. 241 00:15:08,382 --> 00:15:10,050 We would have our little track, 242 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:11,301 and hit our little track, 243 00:15:11,552 --> 00:15:14,430 and it would come on, and I would perform! 244 00:15:14,722 --> 00:15:17,099 ♪ [musical track comes up] 245 00:15:17,516 --> 00:15:19,852 ♪ Ohhh... Lemme tell you now... ♪ 246 00:15:20,102 --> 00:15:24,523 ♪ There’s a place there’s a place to go ♪ 247 00:15:24,773 --> 00:15:28,694 ♪ There’s a place there’s a place I know ♪ 248 00:15:29,528 --> 00:15:34,283 She was about to have a show, down in the East Village. 249 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:39,747 At the Boy's Bar on St. Mark's Place. 250 00:15:39,997 --> 00:15:42,666 And I was her dancer in the show 251 00:15:42,916 --> 00:15:45,044 and she sang the song from Porgy and Bess, 252 00:15:45,294 --> 00:15:47,963 ♪ "Summertime, when the living is easy..." ♪ 253 00:15:48,213 --> 00:15:52,051 She sang a song called "Slave" and I would be her slave 254 00:15:52,301 --> 00:15:54,178 and I'm telling you she was rough! 255 00:15:54,428 --> 00:15:57,222 One time she threw me around with my handcuffs, 256 00:15:57,473 --> 00:16:00,267 and I think I kicked all the drinks off the stage. 257 00:16:00,517 --> 00:16:04,271 So we were wild! We were quite wild in those days. 258 00:16:04,980 --> 00:16:07,107 One day Bill calls me and he says: 259 00:16:07,357 --> 00:16:09,068 "I need you to come put a vocal down." 260 00:16:09,318 --> 00:16:11,487 "No, I can't put a vocal down! 261 00:16:11,737 --> 00:16:14,531 I'm working, and I'm tired, and I've been working now 262 00:16:14,782 --> 00:16:16,450 for about 18 hours straight." 263 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:19,620 He says, "Just come and listen!" So I go over to his house, 264 00:16:19,870 --> 00:16:22,539 it has to be at least 4 o'clock in the morning. 265 00:16:22,915 --> 00:16:27,961 I was very tired, I wanted to do it in one take and... 266 00:16:28,545 --> 00:16:29,546 It just worked. 267 00:16:29,797 --> 00:16:33,133 What a lot of people don't realize is that Quiana 268 00:16:33,383 --> 00:16:36,678 was very responsible for constructing all of those songs. 269 00:16:36,929 --> 00:16:39,264 Because again, when William 270 00:16:39,556 --> 00:16:41,767 would come up with a song, he'd be like: 271 00:16:42,017 --> 00:16:43,602 "Oh this is it!" 272 00:16:43,852 --> 00:16:45,521 And it was like: "He told me, 273 00:16:45,771 --> 00:16:47,606 I've seen it rise, it always falls." 274 00:16:47,856 --> 00:16:49,608 And she would do the... 275 00:16:49,858 --> 00:16:53,612 ♪ "He told me, I've seen it rise." ♪ 276 00:16:54,029 --> 00:16:55,614 And one of the most important things: 277 00:16:55,864 --> 00:16:57,616 We were fooling around with my Casio, 278 00:16:57,866 --> 00:16:59,076 and she says: "Oh I love that sound!" 279 00:16:59,326 --> 00:17:00,869 and I believe they called it "sci-fi," 280 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,996 and she took it and she worked it 281 00:17:03,247 --> 00:17:05,707 and all of a sudden we had a track 282 00:17:05,958 --> 00:17:08,836 with that same sci-fi sound that she created 283 00:17:09,086 --> 00:17:14,842 because I remember her playing with it, that ♪ Na na, na na...♪ 284 00:17:15,175 --> 00:17:17,845 ♪ [Electronic music comes up] ♪ 285 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:24,643 ♪ He told me, ♪ 286 00:17:25,227 --> 00:17:28,063 ♪ "I've seen it rise. ♪ 287 00:17:28,981 --> 00:17:32,109 ♪But it always... ♪ 288 00:17:33,068 --> 00:17:34,570 ♪ falls. ♪ 289 00:17:37,781 --> 00:17:42,995 I've seen him come, I've seen him go." 290 00:17:43,871 --> 00:17:51,003 He said,"All things pass into the night." 291 00:17:52,129 --> 00:17:56,133 So we met at an apartment in the East Village and 292 00:17:56,383 --> 00:17:59,261 Q took me for a ride in the taxi, 293 00:17:59,511 --> 00:18:02,347 and we talked about what kind of images we wanted, 294 00:18:02,598 --> 00:18:04,766 what kind of music video we were gonna do. 295 00:18:05,017 --> 00:18:08,604 I had my little nephew there, and my sister was there. 296 00:18:08,854 --> 00:18:13,025 Q brought in her friend Dan to do some of the dancing. 297 00:18:13,317 --> 00:18:17,696 And in the actual production it was Q and myself, 298 00:18:17,946 --> 00:18:21,158 and the people that I brought to help out, 299 00:18:21,408 --> 00:18:23,994 and the people that Q brought to be in it. 300 00:18:24,244 --> 00:18:28,248 There was no company involved, no producers, no directors, 301 00:18:28,498 --> 00:18:30,292 no money, no nothing. 302 00:18:30,542 --> 00:18:33,795 The only money that was spent was money that we got together 303 00:18:34,046 --> 00:18:36,423 to buy the tape to record it on. 304 00:18:36,673 --> 00:18:38,300 And no record has been made. 305 00:18:38,550 --> 00:18:39,509 Which blows me away. 306 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,262 I still don't understand how that could have been the case. 307 00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:44,348 I mean if Jonathan Demme can get in the taxi 308 00:18:44,598 --> 00:18:45,933 and say, "Oh my God!" 309 00:18:46,183 --> 00:18:51,104 and he puts it in two of his movies, that's a powerful song! 310 00:18:54,316 --> 00:18:59,321 I picked up Jonathan Demme around the 50s or the 40s 311 00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:03,200 on the West Side, and we were going uptown. 312 00:19:04,159 --> 00:19:06,787 He got in the car, him and another man, 313 00:19:07,204 --> 00:19:09,081 they were in deep conversation. 314 00:19:09,331 --> 00:19:11,500 But I wasn't paying attention to the conversation 315 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:14,419 because I was working on my music. 316 00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:17,339 I would sing a few lyrics, you know... 317 00:19:17,673 --> 00:19:20,759 ♪ [riffing] ♪ 318 00:19:23,303 --> 00:19:24,596 Cause I wanted to hear it. 319 00:19:24,846 --> 00:19:27,557 So the car went quiet. 320 00:19:27,808 --> 00:19:30,352 And then I said, "I'm working on a song, you guys." 321 00:19:30,602 --> 00:19:32,396 And Jonathan says, "Go right on ahead, 322 00:19:32,646 --> 00:19:34,147 it sounds good, I like it." 323 00:19:34,398 --> 00:19:36,316 And when I dropped him off he said, 324 00:19:36,566 --> 00:19:38,568 "My name is Jonathan Demme and 325 00:19:38,819 --> 00:19:42,030 I'm a director and here's my card." 326 00:19:42,447 --> 00:19:44,908 So I called his assistant up and she said, 327 00:19:45,158 --> 00:19:47,577 "Send me your tape" and I did. 328 00:19:48,036 --> 00:19:50,080 Like six months later, 329 00:19:50,747 --> 00:19:52,082 she called me back and she said, 330 00:19:52,332 --> 00:19:56,336 "Jonathan wants to use one of your songs 331 00:19:58,088 --> 00:20:00,966 that was on the tape in the movie." 332 00:20:01,216 --> 00:20:03,051 And I was delighted. 333 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:07,055 I was hoping you'd show up tonight. 334 00:20:08,265 --> 00:20:11,518 - When'd you get out? - I've been looking for you. 335 00:20:12,019 --> 00:20:16,565 Jonathan walked in and said, "You gotta hear this, Eddy." 336 00:20:16,815 --> 00:20:21,278 And I'm sure popped a cassette in at the time 337 00:20:21,528 --> 00:20:23,947 and it was "Goodbye Horses." 338 00:20:24,323 --> 00:20:27,993 And he told me that he'd met Q when she was driving. 339 00:20:28,952 --> 00:20:31,163 I really liked that band. 340 00:20:31,496 --> 00:20:33,874 The music is kind of strange. I like it. 341 00:20:35,542 --> 00:20:38,086 ♪ [song comes up] ♪ 342 00:20:38,337 --> 00:20:42,466 ♪ He told me, "I've seen it rise... ♪ 343 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:43,425 Cheers. 344 00:20:44,384 --> 00:20:45,385 Cheers. 345 00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:47,971 And he was giving me work and it was good. 346 00:20:48,221 --> 00:20:50,682 And I was meeting people in the film industry 347 00:20:50,932 --> 00:20:52,059 which was excellent. 348 00:20:52,309 --> 00:20:55,395 But as far as the rock industry 349 00:20:55,645 --> 00:20:58,190 in the United States, in New York, 350 00:20:58,815 --> 00:21:03,195 they weren't ready for a black rock and roll singer. 351 00:21:03,487 --> 00:21:06,114 Jonathan wanted to really help her. 352 00:21:06,365 --> 00:21:09,659 She spent I think about a good month and change in LA. 353 00:21:09,993 --> 00:21:13,246 She goes "I went to all these places I met all these people," 354 00:21:13,497 --> 00:21:17,459 and she said, "Every place I went to they would say to me, 355 00:21:17,751 --> 00:21:20,003 "We like your music, we like your sound Q, 356 00:21:20,253 --> 00:21:22,089 but we just can't market you." 357 00:21:23,256 --> 00:21:27,427 So I said to her,"I'm gonna have to go somewhere else." 358 00:21:28,261 --> 00:21:29,429 Where? I don't know. 359 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:31,098 Maybe France. 360 00:21:32,557 --> 00:21:33,850 Germany. 361 00:21:34,267 --> 00:21:40,065 I had a really good friend named Danny Z and he says, 362 00:21:40,357 --> 00:21:42,109 "Come to London." 363 00:21:42,943 --> 00:21:45,695 [a gentle, repetitive guitar riff plays] 364 00:21:49,783 --> 00:21:52,702 [voice of fortune teller] 365 00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:26,963 ♪ [rock and roll comes up] ♪ 366 00:23:27,547 --> 00:23:31,134 When I went to London, I had saved enough money 367 00:23:31,384 --> 00:23:34,513 that I could live about six or seven months 368 00:23:34,763 --> 00:23:39,434 with an apartment and food without getting a job. 369 00:23:39,893 --> 00:23:43,063 And then I had to develop my band. 370 00:23:43,313 --> 00:23:48,485 And I had so many influences that were clawing at me because 371 00:23:48,777 --> 00:23:50,403 I was listening to AC/DC. 372 00:23:50,654 --> 00:23:52,155 I was listening to Motorhead. 373 00:23:52,405 --> 00:23:54,324 These people I was listening to, going: 374 00:23:54,574 --> 00:23:57,786 "I really would like a female version of this." 375 00:23:58,245 --> 00:24:01,081 At the same time, I was listening to Janis... 376 00:24:01,623 --> 00:24:02,541 Aretha... 377 00:24:02,791 --> 00:24:03,750 Patti Labelle... 378 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,085 Dionne Warwick. 379 00:24:05,418 --> 00:24:09,172 And I was like, "Where am I? Where do I stand?" You know. 380 00:24:09,422 --> 00:24:12,342 I know I'm gonna sing a rock and roll song with black influence, 381 00:24:12,592 --> 00:24:14,177 I already know that... 382 00:24:14,427 --> 00:24:15,220 You know? 383 00:24:15,554 --> 00:24:19,224 And it's most likely gonna have some gospel influence in there. 384 00:24:19,474 --> 00:24:23,895 So all this stuff was just like molding together and so... 385 00:24:26,106 --> 00:24:28,149 Nobody understood it. 386 00:24:29,192 --> 00:24:33,405 I met Mark in Swiss Cottage, that's where I was living. 387 00:24:33,655 --> 00:24:37,409 And he is my guitar player. 388 00:24:38,034 --> 00:24:41,454 One of the best guitar players I have ever heard. 389 00:24:41,705 --> 00:24:43,498 We got to talking and I said, 390 00:24:43,748 --> 00:24:45,959 "Mark, I need to put a band together 391 00:24:46,209 --> 00:24:48,628 and you're a guitar player, I need some musicians." 392 00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:51,339 "My best friend he's a bass player." 393 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:53,592 His name was Jon Baby Bouillot. 394 00:24:53,842 --> 00:24:55,594 Fine, so fine. 395 00:24:56,261 --> 00:24:58,805 So fine! That was a good-looking boy, okay? 396 00:24:59,055 --> 00:25:02,642 Then I found Shane, my drummer, and he was the sweetest thing. 397 00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:03,935 Oh, Shane! 398 00:25:04,185 --> 00:25:06,646 I had really good people in my band. 399 00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:08,398 From the first hour that we started 400 00:25:08,648 --> 00:25:09,983 working together we all thought, 401 00:25:10,233 --> 00:25:12,902 "Oh we've got something great here, this is something new." 402 00:25:13,153 --> 00:25:15,280 Both Mark and I were more rock-orientated. 403 00:25:15,530 --> 00:25:19,242 Q was... I don't know if you can even categorize her, 404 00:25:19,492 --> 00:25:22,579 but she had a soulful voice with a rock edge. So it was... 405 00:25:22,829 --> 00:25:25,624 Also the look was something different of the whole band. 406 00:25:25,874 --> 00:25:27,459 And there was a lot of work to do in the band. 407 00:25:27,709 --> 00:25:30,086 We felt we had something here 408 00:25:30,337 --> 00:25:31,921 with Q and the songs we were writing. 409 00:25:32,172 --> 00:25:34,090 Something was gonna happen. It had to! 410 00:25:34,424 --> 00:25:36,426 Cause how could you ignore this person? 411 00:25:36,676 --> 00:25:41,222 When she came at ya singing with her big eyes and her big voice. 412 00:25:41,473 --> 00:25:43,975 We just had to find a song, the song. 413 00:25:44,225 --> 00:25:47,062 It was rock and roll. 414 00:25:47,312 --> 00:25:50,357 And it had a guitar, 415 00:25:50,732 --> 00:25:53,526 a bass, a drummer, 416 00:25:53,902 --> 00:25:56,571 and a hard vocalist. 417 00:25:56,863 --> 00:26:00,825 ♪ You took away my heart, you took away my soul. ♪ 418 00:26:01,076 --> 00:26:05,163 ♪ You took away my joy and you hurt me so bad. ♪ 419 00:26:05,413 --> 00:26:09,542 ♪ Babe you took away my love, you took away my soul. ♪ 420 00:26:09,793 --> 00:26:12,462 ♪ You turn it around, you turn it around me ♪ 421 00:26:12,712 --> 00:26:18,551 ♪ twice and find that I love you. ♪ 422 00:26:19,094 --> 00:26:21,012 Q is one of a kind. 423 00:26:21,262 --> 00:26:25,100 And I remember walking through Camden Market with her, 424 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:27,143 this big, beautiful woman. 425 00:26:27,394 --> 00:26:29,938 And everybody would look at Q, 426 00:26:30,188 --> 00:26:31,898 not because of her size, 427 00:26:32,148 --> 00:26:33,483 but her magic. 428 00:26:33,858 --> 00:26:37,529 I was absolutely gobsmacked when I saw her. 429 00:26:37,779 --> 00:26:40,281 She was this force of life. 430 00:26:40,532 --> 00:26:43,785 I've never seen a presence on stage like it before. 431 00:26:44,077 --> 00:26:48,123 And she just...Her voice just carried absolute power. 432 00:26:48,456 --> 00:26:50,291 Are you ready? 433 00:26:51,835 --> 00:26:54,087 I don't believe you! Are you ready? 434 00:26:54,963 --> 00:26:58,174 Oh my god, let me hear it again! 435 00:26:58,925 --> 00:27:01,636 Let's go! ♪ [Electric guitar comes up] ♪ 436 00:27:01,886 --> 00:27:05,598 ♪ [Q riffing powerfully] ♪ 437 00:27:08,101 --> 00:27:10,979 ♪ [full band comes up] ♪ 438 00:27:12,188 --> 00:27:14,357 ♪ Did you ever wake up in the morning, ♪ 439 00:27:14,607 --> 00:27:16,526 ♪ your soul was old? ♪ 440 00:27:17,861 --> 00:27:21,281 ♪ What did you do, what did you do? ♪ 441 00:27:23,616 --> 00:27:27,078 ♪ Did you ever hold my hand in the park? ♪ 442 00:27:28,997 --> 00:27:32,083 ♪ What did you do, what did you do? ♪ 443 00:27:32,375 --> 00:27:35,795 This was what would then have been called "heavy metal". 444 00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:38,006 That's what we were playing. 445 00:27:38,757 --> 00:27:40,049 And... 446 00:27:41,217 --> 00:27:44,012 "Goodbye Horses" was not heavy metal. 447 00:27:44,262 --> 00:27:46,806 I heard "Goodbye Horses" and basically 448 00:27:47,056 --> 00:27:49,350 we started playing it right at the start. 449 00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:51,186 And then when the film came out, 450 00:27:51,436 --> 00:27:53,271 we recorded the "B" side for it. 451 00:27:53,521 --> 00:27:58,943 You know, it's really unusual to put a song into a film 452 00:27:59,194 --> 00:28:01,070 and then the very next film you direct, 453 00:28:01,321 --> 00:28:03,865 you feature that song even more prominently! 454 00:28:04,115 --> 00:28:06,242 Like that just doesn't happen much if you watch movies. 455 00:28:06,493 --> 00:28:08,411 Right? That a filmmaker will do that. 456 00:28:08,661 --> 00:28:12,791 But for Jame Gumb's dance, 457 00:28:13,291 --> 00:28:15,543 there was nothing better. 458 00:28:16,127 --> 00:28:19,589 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 459 00:28:20,590 --> 00:28:23,426 ♪ I'm flying over you. ♪ 460 00:28:24,052 --> 00:28:26,429 [crying] 461 00:28:30,225 --> 00:28:31,184 [barking] 462 00:28:31,434 --> 00:28:34,646 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 463 00:28:35,897 --> 00:28:37,649 ♪ I'm flying, flying...♪ 464 00:28:37,899 --> 00:28:39,692 We started to gig it more as 465 00:28:39,943 --> 00:28:42,153 people had seen more of the film. 466 00:28:42,904 --> 00:28:47,575 Also with the advent of this dance-indie crossover thing, 467 00:28:48,910 --> 00:28:52,705 the songs became, the heavy metal songs 468 00:28:52,956 --> 00:28:55,083 were swapped out for some newer songs that sort of 469 00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:57,293 went with "Goodbye Horses." 470 00:28:57,544 --> 00:28:59,128 ♪ Bang bang, ♪ 471 00:29:00,380 --> 00:29:02,924 ♪ Give me your bang bang. ♪ 472 00:29:05,134 --> 00:29:07,053 ♪ Bang bang, ♪ 473 00:29:08,096 --> 00:29:10,139 ♪ give me your thing. ♪ 474 00:29:12,851 --> 00:29:16,062 ♪ Do you really think I'm gonna let you go? ♪ 475 00:29:16,312 --> 00:29:19,399 ♪ When I close my eyes you really steal the show. ♪ 476 00:29:19,649 --> 00:29:22,110 Now here we are in the club area and on my left-hand side 477 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,612 I have our resident Dome Svengali, Q Lazzarus. 478 00:29:24,863 --> 00:29:26,614 Who incidentally not only fronts her own band, 479 00:29:26,865 --> 00:29:28,616 but has also contributed to the soundtrack of that 480 00:29:28,867 --> 00:29:30,535 much-acclaimed movie Silence of the Lambs. 481 00:29:30,785 --> 00:29:32,745 There has been difficulty with black artists in terms of 482 00:29:32,996 --> 00:29:33,913 making money in the States. 483 00:29:34,163 --> 00:29:34,956 Would that be one of the reasons 484 00:29:35,206 --> 00:29:36,207 why you have come over to London? 485 00:29:36,457 --> 00:29:38,167 Yes, to answer your question. 486 00:29:38,418 --> 00:29:40,420 That is one of the reasons why I came over to Britain 487 00:29:40,670 --> 00:29:42,130 cause I wanted to find my own sound, 488 00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:44,966 and I didn't want anyone to hinder me from being, 489 00:29:45,216 --> 00:29:48,887 from me actually expressing what I'm all about. 490 00:29:49,304 --> 00:29:50,889 And once again, 491 00:29:51,973 --> 00:29:54,100 not as bad as New York but 492 00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:57,145 we came up against some blocks. 493 00:29:57,395 --> 00:30:01,357 I used to accompany her going to all the record companies 494 00:30:01,608 --> 00:30:05,695 and she'd be giving out her tapes and stuff. 495 00:30:06,154 --> 00:30:10,992 We'd often talk whilst we were doing this about the rejection, 496 00:30:11,242 --> 00:30:13,202 because they couldn't quite place her. 497 00:30:13,453 --> 00:30:16,748 You know, there she is this woman, amazing voice... 498 00:30:16,998 --> 00:30:18,291 Amazing voice. 499 00:30:18,541 --> 00:30:20,126 Amazing presence. 500 00:30:20,376 --> 00:30:21,836 And because she sang rock music 501 00:30:22,086 --> 00:30:23,922 and all this stuff in those days. 502 00:30:24,172 --> 00:30:26,591 It didn't fit into any boxes. 503 00:30:26,841 --> 00:30:29,135 It couldn't be pigeon-holed anywhere. 504 00:30:29,385 --> 00:30:32,096 It was a big black woman and a rock band. 505 00:30:32,347 --> 00:30:34,933 There wasn't any precedent for it. 506 00:30:35,183 --> 00:30:36,684 Which is what we liked. 507 00:30:37,018 --> 00:30:39,270 But the notoriously conservative 508 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,272 record companies weren't into it. 509 00:30:41,522 --> 00:30:45,568 They all lacked imagination. They all lacked the ability to... 510 00:30:45,818 --> 00:30:48,613 They wanted something that fit into their vision 511 00:30:48,863 --> 00:30:52,367 of what music was about and not what was possible. 512 00:30:52,617 --> 00:30:54,410 We kept plugging at it. 513 00:30:54,661 --> 00:30:56,245 We kept plugging at it. 514 00:30:56,496 --> 00:31:01,250 In the meantime, a lot of other things were happening 515 00:31:01,751 --> 00:31:04,921 that changed Q Lazzarus, 516 00:31:05,171 --> 00:31:08,341 or put her on a different path. 517 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:12,345 So the love of my life in London, 518 00:31:12,595 --> 00:31:13,596 Richard. 519 00:31:13,846 --> 00:31:17,517 Richard and I met at the Hippodrome. 520 00:31:17,892 --> 00:31:21,270 He was already promoting, so he had some business. 521 00:31:21,604 --> 00:31:25,024 He said, "Just stay right here, don't go nowhere now. 522 00:31:25,274 --> 00:31:26,818 Just stay right here." 523 00:31:27,068 --> 00:31:30,738 I said, "I'm not going anywhere, cause I don't know nobody, 524 00:31:30,989 --> 00:31:31,864 [laughter] 525 00:31:32,115 --> 00:31:33,116 I don't have no friends here, 526 00:31:33,366 --> 00:31:36,077 I'm just coming to check out the rock night and what's going on. 527 00:31:36,327 --> 00:31:37,954 So I'm not going anywhere." 528 00:31:38,204 --> 00:31:40,123 And that's how we met. 529 00:31:40,873 --> 00:31:43,501 Every now and then, we would go out from London 530 00:31:43,751 --> 00:31:46,421 to some small town and do a show, 531 00:31:46,671 --> 00:31:48,214 just to break in some new material 532 00:31:48,464 --> 00:31:50,258 and see the reaction of the audience. 533 00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:51,759 And he would be there. 534 00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,594 He would be there every step of the way. 535 00:31:53,845 --> 00:31:56,305 And at one point, he was my manager. 536 00:31:57,348 --> 00:31:59,767 But that wasn't a good idea. 537 00:32:00,476 --> 00:32:02,270 ♪ Why...♪ 538 00:32:02,812 --> 00:32:05,356 ♪ Did you tell a lie? ♪ 539 00:32:07,525 --> 00:32:12,405 ♪ Did you really think I'd lay down and die? ♪ 540 00:32:13,531 --> 00:32:17,827 ♪ Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no ♪ 541 00:32:19,162 --> 00:32:22,874 ♪ I really want you to know. ♪ 542 00:32:23,833 --> 00:32:25,710 ♪ [song fades out] ♪ 543 00:32:26,419 --> 00:32:28,337 Richard and her got on really well. 544 00:32:28,588 --> 00:32:30,673 They'd really support each other. 545 00:32:30,923 --> 00:32:33,468 But I don't really want to make more comment than that 546 00:32:33,718 --> 00:32:36,637 because I was also there for the darker times as well. 547 00:32:36,888 --> 00:32:40,308 I think that he was a bad influence. 548 00:32:40,558 --> 00:32:43,978 And I don't like talking down anybody, 549 00:32:44,228 --> 00:32:46,856 but I can remember at the time I had a bad feeling, 550 00:32:47,106 --> 00:32:50,026 and to this day that feeling has never left me. 551 00:32:50,318 --> 00:32:55,823 When Q and Richard got together and she started promoting clubs, 552 00:32:56,074 --> 00:33:01,329 I suppose with hindsight I can notice a lack of attendance 553 00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:05,792 at rehearsals increasing, a bit more unreliability. 554 00:33:06,042 --> 00:33:08,753 So that possibly tied in with the drugs. 555 00:33:09,045 --> 00:33:11,047 When I was in New York, 556 00:33:11,589 --> 00:33:13,132 I didn't do drugs. 557 00:33:13,382 --> 00:33:16,302 And I very rarely had a drink. 558 00:33:16,969 --> 00:33:19,680 Just, I wasn't interested. 559 00:33:20,556 --> 00:33:22,725 But he was into drugs, 560 00:33:22,975 --> 00:33:28,523 and I think that him doing drugs and alcohol all the time... 561 00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:33,069 I wanted to be with him, so that's what I did. 562 00:33:33,402 --> 00:33:37,240 So yes, we had rock nights in London. 563 00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:41,994 I think we had every single night except maybe Monday. 564 00:33:43,287 --> 00:33:45,248 You're at the Hippodrome rock night, 565 00:33:45,498 --> 00:33:47,375 with a capacity of 2,000 people. 566 00:33:47,625 --> 00:33:49,460 Each one of these bands that you're about to see 567 00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:50,711 has played here. 568 00:33:50,962 --> 00:33:53,464 And what are we doing about it? You're about to see. 569 00:33:53,798 --> 00:33:55,007 Ladies and gentlemen, 570 00:33:55,258 --> 00:33:58,261 you're about to get the hell kicked out of you! 571 00:34:01,848 --> 00:34:03,141 Can you talk a bit about 572 00:34:03,391 --> 00:34:05,643 some of the venues that your band was playing at? 573 00:34:05,893 --> 00:34:06,978 All of them. 574 00:34:09,689 --> 00:34:11,983 We promoted it, we played. 575 00:34:12,316 --> 00:34:14,110 [laughter] 576 00:34:14,610 --> 00:34:18,197 You know? Why wouldn't I put myself on my own stage? 577 00:34:20,533 --> 00:34:21,909 It was good. 578 00:34:22,702 --> 00:34:25,204 London was very good to me. 579 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:29,625 ♪ Oh heaven...♪ 580 00:34:31,335 --> 00:34:33,171 ♪ is a place...♪ 581 00:34:33,504 --> 00:34:37,758 Meet Q Lazzarus. That's right, Q Lazzarus. 582 00:34:38,301 --> 00:34:43,639 ♪ Where nothing can go wrong...♪ 583 00:34:44,140 --> 00:34:47,268 Q comes from Quiana which means thank you. 584 00:34:47,518 --> 00:34:52,607 And Lazzarus comes from Lazarus in the Bible, 585 00:34:52,857 --> 00:34:54,192 the guy who rose from the dead. 586 00:34:54,442 --> 00:34:56,986 Lazzarus sings a heartwarming song called "Heaven" 587 00:34:57,236 --> 00:35:00,323 during a party scene in the movie Philadelphia. 588 00:35:01,115 --> 00:35:03,367 The thing with Philadelphia was 589 00:35:03,618 --> 00:35:05,912 one of his assistants called me up and said: 590 00:35:06,204 --> 00:35:08,664 "We're almost at the end of a movie 591 00:35:08,915 --> 00:35:11,500 that Jonathan is directing and 592 00:35:13,085 --> 00:35:15,087 he wants you to be in the movie." 593 00:35:15,338 --> 00:35:16,672 And I said: "Well what song?" 594 00:35:16,923 --> 00:35:19,508 And he said "Heaven by David Byrne." 595 00:35:19,759 --> 00:35:24,263 I can only imagine for Q, the idea of showing up 596 00:35:24,513 --> 00:35:27,016 and being with a full film crew, 597 00:35:27,266 --> 00:35:29,727 Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, Antonio Banderas... 598 00:35:29,977 --> 00:35:33,231 And you've gotta perform in that setting, 599 00:35:33,481 --> 00:35:35,650 and it's going to be memorialized forever? 600 00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:37,526 I would have been terrified. 601 00:35:37,777 --> 00:35:39,487 But she kills it. 602 00:35:39,737 --> 00:35:43,074 ♪ It is hard to imagine ♪ 603 00:35:44,992 --> 00:35:50,790 ♪ that nothing at all, Could be so exciting, ♪ 604 00:35:51,123 --> 00:35:54,043 ♪ could be so exciting, ♪ 605 00:35:55,503 --> 00:35:57,797 ♪ and so much fun. ♪ 606 00:35:58,798 --> 00:36:02,176 When we came back from London... 607 00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:05,221 to... 608 00:36:07,139 --> 00:36:09,267 film for Philadelphia, 609 00:36:09,517 --> 00:36:13,604 Richard and I set up home in Philly 610 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,276 because it was close to where they were filming, 611 00:36:18,526 --> 00:36:23,114 and also because I wanted to test the waters again 612 00:36:23,364 --> 00:36:26,701 because times was changing, you know? 613 00:36:26,951 --> 00:36:32,498 So maybe there was a chance of something happening here. 614 00:36:33,749 --> 00:36:37,962 Yes! Happy Unity Day 1994, the Ben Franklin Parkway 615 00:36:38,212 --> 00:36:42,049 Now we have a woman that flew all the way in from England, 616 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,386 she has been on Orion Pictures' Silence of the Lambs. 617 00:36:45,636 --> 00:36:48,389 Give a warm welcome for Q Lazzarus! 618 00:36:48,973 --> 00:36:51,892 How ya doing out there, Philly! 619 00:36:52,893 --> 00:36:55,396 We're gonna do a couple of songs for you tonight, 620 00:36:55,646 --> 00:36:57,356 so if you feel like dancing, 621 00:36:57,606 --> 00:37:02,111 just shake your leg, and come on up here, and make me feel good! 622 00:37:02,361 --> 00:37:03,404 ♪ [Band comes up] ♪ 623 00:37:03,654 --> 00:37:07,783 ♪ The time... ♪ 624 00:37:08,659 --> 00:37:10,411 ♪ The time is right... ♪ 625 00:37:10,703 --> 00:37:14,457 This is a song that Dan and I recorded. 626 00:37:14,707 --> 00:37:18,544 Dan being the writer, the arranger, 627 00:37:18,794 --> 00:37:22,214 me being the producer 628 00:37:23,341 --> 00:37:26,010 and the vocal artist. 629 00:37:29,722 --> 00:37:32,350 ♪ [song continues] ♪ 630 00:37:35,061 --> 00:37:37,021 Dan is my best friend. 631 00:37:37,271 --> 00:37:38,689 He was always my best friend. 632 00:37:38,939 --> 00:37:42,234 He's not only my best friend, he was my brother. 633 00:37:42,485 --> 00:37:44,111 Whatever I need. 634 00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:47,365 So one night she took out the keyboard 635 00:37:47,615 --> 00:37:49,575 and I had the lyrics 636 00:37:49,825 --> 00:37:53,329 and we sat down and we wrote a song called "The Boy". 637 00:37:53,579 --> 00:37:56,957 It didn't stop there. That's how "I Need to Know" came about, 638 00:37:57,208 --> 00:38:00,252 "Your Love is My Mistake", "Limboland"... 639 00:38:01,003 --> 00:38:02,546 A lot of songs. 640 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,841 ♪ [music playing in background] ♪ This is wonderful! 641 00:38:06,133 --> 00:38:07,843 Man, we were young! 642 00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:10,096 ♪ [Q singing vocals on the song] ♪ 643 00:38:10,346 --> 00:38:12,098 Yeah, that's me. 644 00:38:12,473 --> 00:38:15,935 ♪ [music continues] ♪ 645 00:38:20,981 --> 00:38:23,359 We were kids, man, we were not fucking around! 646 00:38:23,609 --> 00:38:27,279 We were not fucking around! You hear what I'm saying? 647 00:38:28,072 --> 00:38:29,740 We weren't playing! 648 00:38:30,491 --> 00:38:33,244 ♪ When you get the feeling ♪ 649 00:38:33,494 --> 00:38:35,996 ♪ something’s about to burst. ♪ 650 00:38:36,247 --> 00:38:37,456 ♪ Hey...♪ 651 00:38:37,706 --> 00:38:40,960 ♪ And it gets extremely hard ♪ 652 00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:43,129 ♪ to quench your loving thirst. ♪ 653 00:38:43,379 --> 00:38:45,714 People have said to me, 654 00:38:45,965 --> 00:38:50,177 "We do not understand why you and Dan is not famous." 655 00:38:50,428 --> 00:38:52,471 I got that so much. 656 00:38:52,721 --> 00:38:57,184 They took two people, me and my best friend... 657 00:38:58,644 --> 00:39:01,897 Two very, very talented people. 658 00:39:02,523 --> 00:39:04,817 Not very educated, just talent! 659 00:39:05,067 --> 00:39:05,943 Raw... 660 00:39:07,111 --> 00:39:08,195 Talent! 661 00:39:10,156 --> 00:39:12,825 And they would not even try to help us, 662 00:39:13,075 --> 00:39:15,953 to try to give us... 663 00:39:16,829 --> 00:39:17,371 a chance. 664 00:39:17,621 --> 00:39:19,790 Only one person did that and he did it 665 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,376 over year after year after year! 666 00:39:22,626 --> 00:39:24,336 And that was Jonathan. 667 00:39:25,921 --> 00:39:28,591 And I had to accept it, 668 00:39:28,841 --> 00:39:33,846 and how I accept it was to bury it in drugs. 669 00:39:34,388 --> 00:39:35,723 Alcohol. 670 00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:37,391 Fun nights. 671 00:39:41,061 --> 00:39:42,938 Because I knew I wasn't gonna have my dream, 672 00:39:43,189 --> 00:39:44,607 because nobody would listen. 673 00:39:44,857 --> 00:39:46,859 And I didn't know how to make them listen. 674 00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:50,613 I don't care how much good music I put out there. 675 00:39:50,863 --> 00:39:52,907 They were not listening. 676 00:40:01,916 --> 00:40:03,459 [Beeping] 677 00:40:39,203 --> 00:40:41,163 [voice mail ends] 678 00:40:42,081 --> 00:40:49,004 So Richard, who you know was my partner at the time, 679 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,758 decided, "Okay, we'll stay here for like 6 months 680 00:40:53,008 --> 00:40:54,510 and see how it goes." 681 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,056 But as the time was going on, we were growing apart. 682 00:40:59,306 --> 00:41:03,143 And one of the reasons was because he was missing home, 683 00:41:03,435 --> 00:41:05,813 and he just didn't like Philly. 684 00:41:06,564 --> 00:41:08,315 So something happened, 685 00:41:08,816 --> 00:41:10,859 that's what he said, 686 00:41:11,777 --> 00:41:13,112 that... 687 00:41:14,863 --> 00:41:18,784 He needed to go home because there was an emergency 688 00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:21,537 with his mom at the time. 689 00:41:21,912 --> 00:41:26,333 So of course, I said, "No problem," and 690 00:41:27,167 --> 00:41:28,669 to make a long story short, 691 00:41:28,919 --> 00:41:31,672 he got his plane ticket and 692 00:41:32,715 --> 00:41:33,966 he left... 693 00:41:34,758 --> 00:41:37,011 And I've never seen him since. 694 00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:44,727 ♪ Baby, I need to know. ♪ 695 00:41:47,521 --> 00:41:51,859 ♪ If you can hold me, ♪ 696 00:41:53,277 --> 00:41:56,614 ♪ don't let go. ♪ 697 00:41:58,907 --> 00:42:02,328 ♪ Don't you let me go. ♪ 698 00:42:03,037 --> 00:42:07,333 I went into a very deep depression. 699 00:42:08,417 --> 00:42:09,710 And... 700 00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:21,472 Music wasn't the first thing on my mind 701 00:42:21,722 --> 00:42:24,183 when I woke up in the morning. 702 00:42:24,475 --> 00:42:26,894 It was Richard, the relationship. 703 00:42:27,144 --> 00:42:29,271 What happened? What did I do? 704 00:42:29,605 --> 00:42:33,609 I wasn't good enough, I didn't make it fast enough. 705 00:42:33,901 --> 00:42:37,613 We went to Washington D.C. to perform for the opening 706 00:42:37,863 --> 00:42:40,866 and when they gave out the soundtrack, 707 00:42:41,116 --> 00:42:43,577 Q realized that she was not on. 708 00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:46,789 And that was a devastating blow. 709 00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:50,918 And Richard was not in New York, he already was back in London. 710 00:42:51,168 --> 00:42:54,963 But he was meant to come back, but he never came back. 711 00:42:55,214 --> 00:42:58,717 So between the soundtrack and Richard not coming back, 712 00:42:58,967 --> 00:43:01,595 something happened with her. 713 00:43:01,845 --> 00:43:05,432 I didn't really tell anyone 714 00:43:06,934 --> 00:43:10,270 that Richard is not coming back. 715 00:43:11,897 --> 00:43:16,276 But they seen a drastic change in me. 716 00:43:16,902 --> 00:43:21,657 When you look back on when I started to use drugs, 717 00:43:21,949 --> 00:43:23,659 it was in London. 718 00:43:23,909 --> 00:43:27,371 It went from once every now and then, 719 00:43:27,621 --> 00:43:31,625 to every day use, but still functioning. 720 00:43:32,209 --> 00:43:36,630 To when he left, completely out of control. 721 00:43:36,964 --> 00:43:40,342 So when I say "out of control," 722 00:43:40,592 --> 00:43:44,972 I mean nothing else matter 723 00:43:45,222 --> 00:43:50,102 except isolating the pain that you're going through. 724 00:43:51,019 --> 00:43:53,605 When you used this drug crack, 725 00:43:53,856 --> 00:43:57,443 you became addicted immediately. 726 00:43:57,943 --> 00:44:00,070 I lost everything. 727 00:44:02,573 --> 00:44:04,533 My apartment... 728 00:44:07,536 --> 00:44:08,954 Oh god... 729 00:44:09,538 --> 00:44:10,873 Everything. 730 00:44:11,290 --> 00:44:14,293 And I came to New York and 731 00:44:14,543 --> 00:44:19,256 I went to the East Village to a girlfriend's house. 732 00:44:19,673 --> 00:44:21,425 And then her mother died. 733 00:44:22,134 --> 00:44:23,969 So I said, "I'm gonna go 734 00:44:24,219 --> 00:44:26,054 and I'm gonna stay at your mom's house 735 00:44:26,305 --> 00:44:28,724 and I'm gonna pack things up." 736 00:44:28,974 --> 00:44:31,143 And I started living there. 737 00:44:31,393 --> 00:44:32,770 Then I heard nothing. 738 00:44:33,020 --> 00:44:34,104 She was gone. 739 00:44:34,521 --> 00:44:37,775 When Q disappeared, it was a big loss to everybody. 740 00:44:38,025 --> 00:44:41,069 You know not just personally but the music scene and everything. 741 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,031 All of a sudden she was gone and 742 00:44:44,490 --> 00:44:47,201 I think that was also kind of a Q trait. 743 00:44:47,451 --> 00:44:52,039 She just had that tendency to come and go. 744 00:44:52,372 --> 00:44:54,041 You don't know how she got there 745 00:44:54,291 --> 00:44:56,293 and you don't know how she got away. 746 00:45:02,174 --> 00:45:04,968 Now imagine y'all, this is a school. 747 00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:08,931 It was a school then and it's a school now, okay? 748 00:45:09,181 --> 00:45:12,142 Now, down here... 749 00:45:12,518 --> 00:45:16,396 I want to show you where they used to do their drops. 750 00:45:17,439 --> 00:45:20,692 They would drop the drop in that hole, 751 00:45:20,943 --> 00:45:24,780 and then the dealer would come and pick it up. 752 00:45:25,572 --> 00:45:28,242 And I caught it one day. 753 00:45:29,326 --> 00:45:31,620 I moved it. Hoomp! 754 00:45:31,870 --> 00:45:34,414 Right? And I'm walking back the other way. Right? 755 00:45:34,665 --> 00:45:35,999 I walk back the other way. 756 00:45:36,291 --> 00:45:38,836 But he caught it. 757 00:45:39,253 --> 00:45:42,422 He caught it cause he knew that the dealer was 758 00:45:42,756 --> 00:45:44,091 down by the corner. 759 00:45:44,341 --> 00:45:48,387 And it's not there, and I was the only one who went past him. 760 00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:51,181 And he knew what I looked like. 761 00:45:51,431 --> 00:45:54,184 He knew I was part of the neighborhood. 762 00:45:54,685 --> 00:45:56,687 And I realized this is serious. 763 00:45:56,937 --> 00:46:00,816 This is not taking 5 or 6 bundles of crack. 764 00:46:01,316 --> 00:46:02,776 No... 765 00:46:03,193 --> 00:46:05,445 This is like a half a key here. 766 00:46:06,154 --> 00:46:07,906 A few days later, 767 00:46:10,492 --> 00:46:12,578 I'm in the apartment. 768 00:46:13,203 --> 00:46:18,876 I'm being very quiet because I'm using and I'm paranoid. 769 00:46:19,209 --> 00:46:21,295 I got all my lights off. 770 00:46:21,545 --> 00:46:23,213 I don't even have no music playing. 771 00:46:23,463 --> 00:46:25,591 I'm just hitting my pipe. 772 00:46:25,841 --> 00:46:29,511 But there was somebody in front of my door, 773 00:46:29,761 --> 00:46:32,139 I could see their feet. 774 00:46:32,681 --> 00:46:35,601 And not only were they at my door. 775 00:46:36,351 --> 00:46:38,020 They weren't leaving. 776 00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:41,899 Girl, let me tell you what I did! 777 00:46:43,901 --> 00:46:45,611 I got on the phone. 778 00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:48,530 I called the police. 779 00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:51,533 I told the police: 780 00:46:52,367 --> 00:46:54,494 "There's shooting in the building." 781 00:46:55,746 --> 00:46:57,247 The police came... 782 00:46:57,539 --> 00:47:01,835 They clocked that one of those, it was 3 of them, had guns! 783 00:47:02,544 --> 00:47:04,838 [boom, boom, boom...] 784 00:47:06,673 --> 00:47:07,966 Jesus! 785 00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:13,263 I came out of the apartment 786 00:47:14,056 --> 00:47:16,642 after things had settled down and I realized: 787 00:47:16,892 --> 00:47:19,019 "Oh they got these motherfuckers." 788 00:47:19,269 --> 00:47:22,064 Just as I was, like a neighbor. 789 00:47:22,314 --> 00:47:25,108 "What happened? What's going on? 790 00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:29,696 I don't want to stay here, I'm scared!" 791 00:47:30,781 --> 00:47:33,700 And I went through all this big dramatic... 792 00:47:33,951 --> 00:47:37,245 I would have got an Oscar, honey child! 793 00:47:37,537 --> 00:47:40,248 I went through the whole thing, going down the steps saying, 794 00:47:40,499 --> 00:47:44,127 "Oh my Lord! All these bullets, look at all these bullet holes!" 795 00:47:44,378 --> 00:47:46,588 And they had to get me out of that scene. 796 00:47:46,838 --> 00:47:48,382 "Please get her out of here! 797 00:47:48,632 --> 00:47:50,676 We got a crime scene here!" 798 00:47:51,677 --> 00:47:55,389 So after going through all that, 799 00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:59,434 the tenants started to complain about me 800 00:47:59,685 --> 00:48:03,939 and they got an association together 801 00:48:04,356 --> 00:48:08,485 to kick me out because they said that I was not on the lease. 802 00:48:09,069 --> 00:48:13,532 And they threw me out 803 00:48:14,116 --> 00:48:16,785 on the street with all my things, 804 00:48:17,577 --> 00:48:23,083 and I went literally from having an apartment, 805 00:48:24,876 --> 00:48:28,255 to being on the street within minutes. 806 00:48:28,755 --> 00:48:30,257 I had nothing. 807 00:48:30,507 --> 00:48:31,758 Nothing. 808 00:48:32,009 --> 00:48:34,386 Except the little money I had, 809 00:48:34,636 --> 00:48:39,558 cash in my hand, and the little bit of product I had. 810 00:48:39,808 --> 00:48:41,059 ♪ [music comes up] ♪ 811 00:48:41,351 --> 00:48:46,940 ♪ I went to the city to look around. ♪ 812 00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:55,532 ♪ And I seen glass buildings standing high in the sky. ♪ 813 00:48:57,034 --> 00:49:03,248 ♪ And a man said, "Lady, do you have a nickel? ♪ 814 00:49:05,083 --> 00:49:09,046 ♪ Cause my wife and child is dying in the streets." ♪ 815 00:49:09,296 --> 00:49:11,840 So I was on the streets, 816 00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:19,681 and I had changed my name to Pam. 817 00:49:22,934 --> 00:49:28,190 And so nobody knew me as Q or Diane. 818 00:49:28,690 --> 00:49:30,650 But I was the new girl on the block. 819 00:49:30,901 --> 00:49:32,652 Cause now I was really on the street. 820 00:49:32,903 --> 00:49:36,281 So I had to really learn where the crack houses was, 821 00:49:36,531 --> 00:49:38,658 where the dope houses was, 822 00:49:38,909 --> 00:49:41,787 where the prostitution was, where everything was going on 823 00:49:42,037 --> 00:49:44,331 in that community, what was happening. 824 00:49:44,581 --> 00:49:46,083 Cause I was on the street, 825 00:49:46,333 --> 00:49:48,335 I was sleeping on the street! 826 00:49:48,585 --> 00:49:52,464 I was homeless, I was part of the shanty town. 827 00:49:53,381 --> 00:49:56,927 And when I used all my product, 828 00:49:58,553 --> 00:50:00,806 and I didn't have no money, 829 00:50:01,765 --> 00:50:03,975 and I didn't have any job. 830 00:50:05,852 --> 00:50:08,939 I had to decide: "Well, what you gonna do?" 831 00:50:11,399 --> 00:50:13,318 So I sold my body. 832 00:50:16,863 --> 00:50:18,240 And... 833 00:50:20,575 --> 00:50:24,412 It was something that I had always 834 00:50:24,996 --> 00:50:27,374 sworn that I would never do. 835 00:50:27,958 --> 00:50:32,504 There was nothing in the world could ever make me ever do that. 836 00:50:34,047 --> 00:50:36,091 But that cocaine did. 837 00:50:37,175 --> 00:50:40,137 I remember the first time I did it too. 838 00:50:40,387 --> 00:50:45,267 And I didn't know how to act, what to say. 839 00:50:46,184 --> 00:50:50,856 And the guy came up, he said to me, 840 00:50:51,606 --> 00:50:55,110 "Do you got a real fat pussy?" 841 00:50:57,988 --> 00:50:59,406 And I said... 842 00:51:00,157 --> 00:51:01,867 Because, cause... 843 00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:03,702 Because I'd never done this before, 844 00:51:03,952 --> 00:51:05,453 I didn't realize that that's 845 00:51:05,704 --> 00:51:07,497 supposed to be some type of comment, 846 00:51:07,747 --> 00:51:09,124 because where I came from, 847 00:51:09,374 --> 00:51:11,543 your pussy was supposed to be tight. 848 00:51:11,793 --> 00:51:12,752 [laughing] 849 00:51:13,003 --> 00:51:15,338 Not fat and drooping. 850 00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:16,590 You know what I'm saying? 851 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,718 And I was like, "No, my pussy's very tight." 852 00:51:20,343 --> 00:51:22,846 I looked at him like he was crazy! 853 00:51:23,096 --> 00:51:25,724 And then I realized, I'm not 854 00:51:25,974 --> 00:51:28,351 responding back to him the way I'm supposed to 855 00:51:28,602 --> 00:51:30,437 because I don't know how to. 856 00:51:30,687 --> 00:51:34,107 So he went on his way and... 857 00:51:34,482 --> 00:51:37,277 I had to talk to the girls on the street. 858 00:51:37,569 --> 00:51:40,655 I knew how to dress 'cause I was a rock and roller. 859 00:51:40,906 --> 00:51:43,867 I didn't have no problem putting the makeup on and the wigs. 860 00:51:44,117 --> 00:51:45,368 I was good! 861 00:51:45,785 --> 00:51:47,996 But I didn't know the language. 862 00:51:49,164 --> 00:51:52,042 ♪ Sitting here in a dark bar, ♪ 863 00:51:53,043 --> 00:51:55,337 ♪ the lights were flashing. ♪ 864 00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:59,674 ♪ He was over there by the front wall, ♪ 865 00:52:00,926 --> 00:52:03,345 ♪ the night is for fighting. ♪ 866 00:52:03,595 --> 00:52:07,557 ♪ So late yeah, but I don't care. ♪ 867 00:52:08,183 --> 00:52:10,435 ♪ He's driving me crazy. ♪ 868 00:52:10,852 --> 00:52:14,940 ♪ I looked in his eyes and I burned through his mind. ♪ 869 00:52:15,649 --> 00:52:18,318 ♪ The night is for taking. ♪ 870 00:52:19,778 --> 00:52:22,489 ♪ Flesh for sale... ♪ 871 00:52:24,616 --> 00:52:27,953 And then the using of the drug progressed 872 00:52:28,203 --> 00:52:31,623 til you just didn't care to put makeup on! 873 00:52:32,082 --> 00:52:34,751 You know, I understand prostitution when it comes to: 874 00:52:35,001 --> 00:52:36,878 "I'm going out, it's my business, 875 00:52:37,128 --> 00:52:38,171 I'm making my money." 876 00:52:38,421 --> 00:52:42,384 You know, you go to work, you're going to work. 877 00:52:42,759 --> 00:52:47,264 But when you are strictly going out just to 878 00:52:47,931 --> 00:52:50,350 get enough money for... 879 00:52:51,977 --> 00:52:53,520 Drugs... 880 00:52:58,942 --> 00:53:01,361 It's insane. 881 00:53:04,656 --> 00:53:07,993 Back in the day, this was rough country, 882 00:53:08,243 --> 00:53:09,828 this was Dodge City. 883 00:53:10,078 --> 00:53:16,251 And I would come to this church and I would sleep, 884 00:53:17,252 --> 00:53:19,004 whether it was on the bench, 885 00:53:19,254 --> 00:53:21,423 the same benches that are there now. 886 00:53:21,673 --> 00:53:26,219 Or, if I was too late and somebody had already got them, 887 00:53:26,678 --> 00:53:27,554 I would sleep... 888 00:53:27,804 --> 00:53:29,514 I would climb the fence 889 00:53:29,764 --> 00:53:32,517 and I would sleep on the other side of the church. 890 00:53:32,767 --> 00:53:33,727 [bells tolling] 891 00:53:34,019 --> 00:53:35,520 Right up in here, 892 00:53:35,770 --> 00:53:38,440 on the back side of these trees, right here... 893 00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:40,400 Is where I slept. 894 00:53:40,984 --> 00:53:43,445 This is where my home was. 895 00:53:45,071 --> 00:53:48,241 One thing never change. 896 00:53:48,533 --> 00:53:51,494 And this is where the homeless... 897 00:53:51,745 --> 00:53:53,747 I don't touch nothing. 898 00:53:54,497 --> 00:53:58,126 But this is where the homeless slept last night. 899 00:53:58,793 --> 00:54:02,380 And not only did he sleep here, or she... 900 00:54:03,381 --> 00:54:05,925 They did their drugs here too. 901 00:54:08,595 --> 00:54:14,434 At my really low point is when I met Bob. 902 00:54:21,274 --> 00:54:23,526 When I met Q... 903 00:54:23,818 --> 00:54:26,905 Umm, that's not the name she gave me at the time 904 00:54:27,155 --> 00:54:29,032 but that doesn't matter. 905 00:54:29,282 --> 00:54:32,369 It was on 12th Street 906 00:54:32,911 --> 00:54:34,162 and 1st Avenue. 907 00:54:34,537 --> 00:54:38,541 We met crossing the street and said hello and... 908 00:54:39,209 --> 00:54:40,668 We got to talking and... 909 00:54:40,919 --> 00:54:44,506 It was a cold, cold night. It was very cold. 910 00:54:44,756 --> 00:54:47,842 And all I could see was her eyes. 911 00:54:50,136 --> 00:54:55,558 I mean she was bundled up like a winter burka, 912 00:54:55,809 --> 00:54:57,852 all you saw were the eyes 913 00:54:58,561 --> 00:55:01,147 and I just loved the eyes. 914 00:55:01,606 --> 00:55:03,650 And then you know, we had a drink 915 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:06,486 and started talking and we... 916 00:55:10,573 --> 00:55:12,117 We hit it off! 917 00:55:12,409 --> 00:55:17,664 I was working as a manager of a messenger service. 918 00:55:17,914 --> 00:55:19,416 Bicycle messenger. 919 00:55:19,666 --> 00:55:24,295 And as far as how old I was, it was what 90? Mid-90s? 920 00:55:24,921 --> 00:55:27,173 So I was, I was 37. 921 00:55:27,424 --> 00:55:30,510 Right, and I was 36. 922 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,849 And I knew I liked her a great deal, you know. 923 00:55:36,266 --> 00:55:39,144 And when we parted company, 924 00:55:39,811 --> 00:55:41,813 I was just so convinced that 925 00:55:42,063 --> 00:55:44,524 I was never going to see her again. 926 00:55:44,899 --> 00:55:48,278 Cause it's like, you know, there's no way 927 00:55:48,528 --> 00:55:52,323 that she's ever gonna want to have anything to do with me! 928 00:55:52,615 --> 00:55:53,783 And... 929 00:55:54,451 --> 00:55:55,535 She did. 930 00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:57,704 ♪ [music comes up] ♪ 931 00:55:58,121 --> 00:56:03,543 ♪ No I never expected this to happen. ♪ 932 00:56:05,170 --> 00:56:07,213 ♪ Not in here, ♪ 933 00:56:07,505 --> 00:56:09,340 ♪ not this way, ♪ 934 00:56:09,591 --> 00:56:12,260 ♪ not tonight. ♪ 935 00:56:15,472 --> 00:56:21,311 ♪ Just thought I'd come out for a few laughs, ♪ 936 00:56:22,812 --> 00:56:24,481 ♪ a quick drink, ♪ 937 00:56:25,106 --> 00:56:26,941 ♪ and a smoke, ♪ 938 00:56:27,275 --> 00:56:29,903 ♪ then good night. ♪ 939 00:56:35,325 --> 00:56:38,036 ♪ Then you came on to me, ♪ 940 00:56:38,620 --> 00:56:41,122 ♪ and said... ♪ 941 00:56:41,623 --> 00:56:46,085 Our song is "Wild Horses" from the Rolling Stones. 942 00:56:46,628 --> 00:56:48,338 And... 943 00:56:48,713 --> 00:56:51,633 - When we were having... - Which I can't listen to... 944 00:56:51,883 --> 00:56:55,011 - When we were having our first- - Anymore. 945 00:56:56,137 --> 00:56:57,013 Intimate... 946 00:56:57,263 --> 00:56:58,890 - Romantic... - Romantic... 947 00:56:59,140 --> 00:57:01,809 - Interlude. - Interlude. 948 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,521 [laughter] 949 00:57:08,650 --> 00:57:12,487 Back in the day, we called it "slow dragging", you know. 950 00:57:12,737 --> 00:57:16,783 And I taught him how to slow drag to this song. 951 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,035 Dragged me is what you did. 952 00:57:19,285 --> 00:57:23,748 And he literally couldn't like keep up slow dragging. 953 00:57:23,998 --> 00:57:26,209 Slow dragging, you don't have to do much, you just... 954 00:57:26,459 --> 00:57:30,672 You said, "Dance with me" and I said, "I can't dance." 955 00:57:30,922 --> 00:57:34,759 - One two, one two, one two. - I was right, I can't dance. 956 00:57:35,009 --> 00:57:37,387 You know slow dragging, you hold each other close. 957 00:57:37,637 --> 00:57:38,888 One two. 958 00:57:39,138 --> 00:57:42,892 - Couldn't do it. - But we had a very nice... 959 00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:47,689 - We had a very nice evening. - Yes, we did. 960 00:57:48,314 --> 00:57:50,817 How much did you know when you met Q 961 00:57:51,067 --> 00:57:53,111 about her musical past? 962 00:57:53,361 --> 00:57:55,905 Nothing, I knew absolutely nothing 963 00:57:56,155 --> 00:57:58,449 until she decided to tell me. 964 00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:00,535 But I told you the truth. 965 00:58:00,785 --> 00:58:02,328 No, your sister told me the truth. 966 00:58:02,579 --> 00:58:03,830 - Did she? - Oh no, you told me. 967 00:58:04,163 --> 00:58:08,001 - I told you, I told you. - She told me she was an RN... 968 00:58:08,293 --> 00:58:11,629 She'd been an RN and worked in a hospital and... 969 00:58:12,547 --> 00:58:15,425 So I had no reason to disbelieve her. 970 00:58:15,758 --> 00:58:19,220 And then sometime later she's asking me 971 00:58:19,470 --> 00:58:22,849 a health question or something. 972 00:58:23,099 --> 00:58:26,477 And I'm like, "Why are you asking me? You're a nurse!" 973 00:58:26,728 --> 00:58:28,062 She said, "I'm not a nurse." 974 00:58:28,313 --> 00:58:30,940 "So then why'd you tell me you were?" 975 00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:32,317 [laughter] 976 00:58:32,567 --> 00:58:36,738 And then I'm like, "I guess the rock star stuff is 977 00:58:36,988 --> 00:58:38,990 a bunch of, you know, 978 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,950 made up stuff too, I don't know." 979 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:47,248 Because I didn't want you to know that I was on drugs, 980 00:58:47,498 --> 00:58:50,793 and I was a prostitute and homeless. 981 00:58:51,044 --> 00:58:53,630 Pretty much everybody on the Lower East Side was on drugs. 982 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,010 Yeah but that's not the point. That's not the point, you know? 983 00:58:59,302 --> 00:59:00,553 [laughter] 984 00:59:01,054 --> 00:59:02,972 And so we were getting together 985 00:59:03,222 --> 00:59:06,726 so I had to come up with something besides... 986 00:59:07,060 --> 00:59:11,439 I didn't want anybody to know at that point 987 00:59:11,689 --> 00:59:13,149 where Q Lazzarus was. 988 00:59:22,825 --> 00:59:24,619 This particular... 989 00:59:26,871 --> 00:59:28,122 Day. 990 00:59:31,459 --> 00:59:33,961 Or this case, my case, 991 00:59:34,671 --> 00:59:38,424 I happened to be not the buyer, I was the seller. 992 00:59:38,675 --> 00:59:40,802 So if the dealer said: 993 00:59:41,052 --> 00:59:43,096 "Okay, I'll tell you what you're gonna do. 994 00:59:43,346 --> 00:59:45,431 You're gonna sell this bundle, 995 00:59:45,682 --> 00:59:48,309 and out of the bundle you keep two." 996 00:59:48,810 --> 00:59:49,519 You know? 997 00:59:49,769 --> 00:59:54,065 And that's how you got your shit for the night. 998 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,485 And that was the situation. 999 00:59:57,902 --> 01:00:00,154 I was selling to use, 1000 01:00:00,822 --> 01:00:02,532 and they caught me. 1001 01:00:03,157 --> 01:00:08,996 But how it all came about that I even considered stopping 1002 01:00:09,997 --> 01:00:13,000 was because I said, "You know what?" Sitting somewhere 1003 01:00:13,251 --> 01:00:15,253 smoking a pipe, and I said, 1004 01:00:16,170 --> 01:00:18,506 "When's the last time I had my period?" 1005 01:00:18,756 --> 01:00:20,466 And I couldn't remember. 1006 01:00:21,134 --> 01:00:23,928 So I said, "Well that's not good." 1007 01:00:24,303 --> 01:00:30,226 So I went to the drugstore and I stole a pregnancy test, 1008 01:00:31,018 --> 01:00:33,813 and it came out positive. 1009 01:00:34,897 --> 01:00:38,609 So I went to Beth Israel, and the doctor told me 1010 01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:43,156 that I was 5 and 1/2 months pregnant. 1011 01:00:44,657 --> 01:00:47,994 That's a long, long, long time 1012 01:00:48,244 --> 01:00:51,414 for a baby to be inside of you 1013 01:00:51,706 --> 01:00:53,750 and you're using... 1014 01:00:54,667 --> 01:00:55,918 Cocaine. 1015 01:00:58,296 --> 01:00:59,255 You know, 1016 01:00:59,672 --> 01:01:04,844 it comes a time when you are carrying that cross, 1017 01:01:06,471 --> 01:01:08,264 that cross get... 1018 01:01:09,432 --> 01:01:15,188 That cross get very hard to carry. 1019 01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:20,151 And that's when you get down on one knee 1020 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:27,450 because you can't, you can't hold it up no more. 1021 01:01:28,743 --> 01:01:31,537 I didn't know what I was gonna do. 1022 01:01:34,457 --> 01:01:36,751 But suicide was very... 1023 01:01:41,756 --> 01:01:44,550 It was sounding very good to me. 1024 01:01:45,301 --> 01:01:48,179 Remember I have a court case. 1025 01:01:48,429 --> 01:01:51,265 Think it was the next day, day after. 1026 01:01:51,724 --> 01:01:54,393 The judge said, "You know what, Miss Luckey? 1027 01:01:54,644 --> 01:01:58,606 I'm gonna give your behind a little time to cool off. 1028 01:01:59,398 --> 01:02:01,609 You're not going home today. 1029 01:02:03,986 --> 01:02:05,947 You understand? 1030 01:02:06,572 --> 01:02:09,867 It's called Care, Custody and Control. 1031 01:02:10,117 --> 01:02:11,702 That's where you're going. 1032 01:02:11,953 --> 01:02:14,080 You're going to Rikers Island today." 1033 01:02:14,831 --> 01:02:19,502 ♪ When I was young, I had everything, I abused it. ♪ 1034 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,510 ♪ Everything I ever touched, I used it. ♪ 1035 01:02:30,972 --> 01:02:35,643 ♪ Backwards, forwards, turn upside down, I needed it. ♪ 1036 01:02:38,729 --> 01:02:41,691 ♪ It holds me up when I'm down on the floor. ♪ 1037 01:02:41,941 --> 01:02:43,109 ♪ It's a fool's life...♪ 1038 01:02:43,359 --> 01:02:46,863 Well my sentence was 3 to life, and I had a bundle. 1039 01:02:47,405 --> 01:02:50,408 Ten little chunks of crack. 1040 01:02:50,867 --> 01:02:52,076 Vials. 1041 01:02:52,618 --> 01:02:54,161 Not a big deal. 1042 01:02:54,787 --> 01:03:00,501 Where the guys who was selling millions on the street 1043 01:03:00,835 --> 01:03:03,296 was getting the same time. 1044 01:03:04,589 --> 01:03:08,551 One night I was sleeping in my bed, 1045 01:03:09,635 --> 01:03:13,598 and this inmate next door to me 1046 01:03:16,893 --> 01:03:18,853 She got up, 1047 01:03:20,271 --> 01:03:23,608 and she started praising God. 1048 01:03:25,067 --> 01:03:28,195 She just kept saying, "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus..." 1049 01:03:28,613 --> 01:03:31,490 and "Save me, save me from, save me..." 1050 01:03:31,741 --> 01:03:35,161 And she did this for like, hours. 1051 01:03:35,661 --> 01:03:38,915 And the next day, I walked out. 1052 01:03:39,165 --> 01:03:41,542 It was breakfast time, and I said, 1053 01:03:41,792 --> 01:03:44,170 "Look, as long as this baby is in you, 1054 01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:46,881 you can't use no more drugs." 1055 01:03:47,298 --> 01:03:49,592 Came out in 7 days, the judge says, 1056 01:03:49,842 --> 01:03:52,553 "I want to see you back here in 3." 1057 01:03:52,845 --> 01:03:55,556 So I said to the prosecutor: 1058 01:03:56,182 --> 01:03:59,018 "I have a baby in me, 1059 01:03:59,894 --> 01:04:01,437 and... 1060 01:04:02,939 --> 01:04:05,608 I can't go back on the street. 1061 01:04:07,860 --> 01:04:12,281 I'm not that strong. I've only been here 7 days. 1062 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,952 And I'm sober." 1063 01:04:16,994 --> 01:04:20,498 She said, "There's something about you Miss Luckey, 1064 01:04:20,831 --> 01:04:24,377 that I believe that you can be one of those persons 1065 01:04:24,627 --> 01:04:27,046 that can change your life around." 1066 01:04:27,296 --> 01:04:30,383 She says, "I'm gonna offer you a deal. 1067 01:04:31,175 --> 01:04:36,055 I'm gonna send you to Odyssey, a drug treatment program, 1068 01:04:36,305 --> 01:04:41,394 and you're gonna learn to live your life without drugs." 1069 01:04:42,979 --> 01:04:46,774 This is right after me having James, 1070 01:04:47,149 --> 01:04:50,111 and we're just sleeping together as mom and son, 1071 01:04:50,361 --> 01:04:52,071 and I'm holding him... 1072 01:04:52,321 --> 01:04:53,781 And that was before she went away. 1073 01:04:54,031 --> 01:04:55,241 Yeah. 1074 01:04:56,075 --> 01:05:00,496 James was supposed to come in August, but he came in June. 1075 01:05:00,746 --> 01:05:03,499 He was a premature baby, but very healthy. 1076 01:05:03,749 --> 01:05:08,671 But I was dabbing, so it was in James' system. 1077 01:05:08,921 --> 01:05:14,176 And ACS let the judge know that James was born 1078 01:05:14,427 --> 01:05:17,221 with traces of cocaine. 1079 01:05:17,638 --> 01:05:21,142 So when the whole thing went down, 1080 01:05:21,809 --> 01:05:26,105 I called my people. My people came and got my son. 1081 01:05:26,564 --> 01:05:29,025 So I was lucky that way. 1082 01:05:29,567 --> 01:05:32,486 Three days later, I'm back in court. 1083 01:05:32,737 --> 01:05:35,072 The judge says, "I'm going to send you 1084 01:05:35,322 --> 01:05:37,575 to a drug program called Daytop 1085 01:05:37,825 --> 01:05:39,827 because those 17 months? 1086 01:05:40,077 --> 01:05:41,704 They no longer count." 1087 01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:45,207 When she was away, when Diane was away, 1088 01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:48,252 I had to take care of James. 1089 01:05:48,502 --> 01:05:50,796 And I did my best but... 1090 01:05:52,339 --> 01:05:55,593 You know now I'm single, I'm working full time. 1091 01:05:55,843 --> 01:05:58,554 And I had to find a babysitter who 1092 01:05:58,804 --> 01:06:01,932 charged me a great deal of money. 1093 01:06:02,183 --> 01:06:06,062 And then eventually, it became more feasible 1094 01:06:06,312 --> 01:06:10,066 for her family, her mother, him staying there permanently, 1095 01:06:10,316 --> 01:06:12,735 and me coming down on the weekends. 1096 01:06:13,652 --> 01:06:17,406 I went through the whole thing, and I became a senior 1097 01:06:18,365 --> 01:06:20,034 and... 1098 01:06:24,371 --> 01:06:26,707 I had an urge. 1099 01:06:27,416 --> 01:06:31,212 And I remember getting on my knees and I said, 1100 01:06:31,462 --> 01:06:35,132 "Jesus, I only got a few choices here. 1101 01:06:35,758 --> 01:06:40,054 I might graduate from this program, but I'm gonna go back, 1102 01:06:40,304 --> 01:06:42,264 I'm never gonna get to know my son, 1103 01:06:42,515 --> 01:06:44,183 I'm never gonna be a good mom, 1104 01:06:44,433 --> 01:06:48,187 I'm never gonna do anything that I want to do, 1105 01:06:48,479 --> 01:06:51,440 all I'm gonna be is a fucking crackhead. 1106 01:06:52,024 --> 01:06:53,484 Second choice 1107 01:06:56,445 --> 01:06:58,823 is that I can just kill myself. 1108 01:06:59,657 --> 01:07:02,910 I don't have to worry about the embarrassment of my son 1109 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,914 'cause he don't know me! He knows my mom and my sisters. 1110 01:07:07,164 --> 01:07:09,834 He thinks his mom is in the hospital 1111 01:07:10,084 --> 01:07:11,710 because she's sick. 1112 01:07:12,002 --> 01:07:14,213 He's 4 1/2 years old. He don't know. 1113 01:07:14,797 --> 01:07:16,632 Or... 1114 01:07:18,050 --> 01:07:20,344 You're gonna have to come in 1115 01:07:22,763 --> 01:07:27,643 and you are gonna have to give me the strength 1116 01:07:33,983 --> 01:07:37,611 not to use drugs again." 1117 01:07:38,654 --> 01:07:42,116 I graduated. I had no skills. 1118 01:07:42,366 --> 01:07:44,451 I was always in music. 1119 01:07:45,369 --> 01:07:49,081 I said, "But you know what you do do real good, Diane? 1120 01:07:49,331 --> 01:07:51,792 You drive real well." 1121 01:07:52,376 --> 01:07:56,213 I went and got my CDL, I found a job. 1122 01:07:57,798 --> 01:08:01,510 And I found an apartment. 1123 01:08:02,094 --> 01:08:04,555 And I did everything I was supposed to do 1124 01:08:04,805 --> 01:08:06,849 not because it was on a piece of paper, 1125 01:08:07,099 --> 01:08:09,393 but because I knew this is what I had to do to get my son back. 1126 01:08:09,643 --> 01:08:11,478 Because the whole time, I wanted my son back. 1127 01:08:11,729 --> 01:08:12,563 I wanted my baby. 1128 01:08:12,813 --> 01:08:14,773 You all have had him for a long time. 1129 01:08:15,024 --> 01:08:17,443 It's time for me to raise my son. 1130 01:08:17,776 --> 01:08:19,695 And one year, 1131 01:08:20,779 --> 01:08:22,281 to the day, 1132 01:08:23,991 --> 01:08:25,826 James came 1133 01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:29,622 and lived with me and his father. 1134 01:08:31,165 --> 01:08:33,083 He was 6 years old. 1135 01:08:36,045 --> 01:08:39,298 ♪ [music comes up] ♪ 1136 01:08:40,382 --> 01:08:43,761 ♪ The sun is up. ♪ 1137 01:08:46,263 --> 01:08:50,726 ♪ The tide is low. ♪ 1138 01:08:52,770 --> 01:08:57,024 ♪ Sand is white. ♪ 1139 01:08:58,525 --> 01:09:03,656 ♪ Ships are moving slow. ♪ 1140 01:09:04,698 --> 01:09:09,286 ♪ The sky is blue. ♪ 1141 01:09:10,704 --> 01:09:14,667 ♪ Birds are flying low. ♪ 1142 01:09:16,669 --> 01:09:18,462 ♪ Singing to a tune...♪ 1143 01:09:18,712 --> 01:09:21,924 Growing up, my mom, she was always... 1144 01:09:22,174 --> 01:09:23,676 Just wild. 1145 01:09:23,926 --> 01:09:27,221 She's just like a wild, fun person to be around. 1146 01:09:27,513 --> 01:09:28,973 Sometimes she's a little too wild 1147 01:09:29,223 --> 01:09:30,683 and it's a little annoying but 1148 01:09:30,933 --> 01:09:34,270 it's always super fun especially family gatherings and events. 1149 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,147 When I was younger though, 1150 01:09:37,773 --> 01:09:39,900 when she would go on 1151 01:09:40,150 --> 01:09:42,403 Niagara Falls tours and things like that... 1152 01:09:42,653 --> 01:09:47,366 That she'd be gone for like, sometimes like 3, 4, 5 days. 1153 01:09:48,701 --> 01:09:52,246 I was driving coach buses, passengers, yes. 1154 01:09:52,997 --> 01:09:55,916 I mainly drove the East coast. 1155 01:09:56,166 --> 01:09:59,378 I drove from Florida straight up to Canada. 1156 01:10:00,212 --> 01:10:03,090 What is it about driving that you like? 1157 01:10:03,382 --> 01:10:05,175 I get to think. 1158 01:10:06,093 --> 01:10:08,053 You know, evaluate. 1159 01:10:08,304 --> 01:10:11,223 See the world change. I like to see change. 1160 01:10:11,974 --> 01:10:14,059 When I was a bus driver, 1161 01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:16,603 a few people were invited over to 1162 01:10:16,854 --> 01:10:19,606 one of the bus driver's house. 1163 01:10:20,065 --> 01:10:22,693 And they all came in and they said, 1164 01:10:24,028 --> 01:10:25,487 "Are you a singer?" 1165 01:10:25,738 --> 01:10:28,991 And I said, "Of course not, I'm a bus driver, you ass!" 1166 01:10:29,241 --> 01:10:33,537 "No! There's this woman inside this movie called Philadelphia, 1167 01:10:33,787 --> 01:10:35,497 and we all was watching it. 1168 01:10:35,748 --> 01:10:39,126 And she looks just like you! She's your twin, Luck! 1169 01:10:39,376 --> 01:10:41,128 At that time, they called me Luckey. 1170 01:10:41,378 --> 01:10:43,047 "Luckey, she's your twin!" 1171 01:10:43,297 --> 01:10:45,883 And I was just like, "Oh, okay everybody got a twin." 1172 01:10:46,133 --> 01:10:48,802 "No, but you gotta watch it!" 1173 01:10:49,303 --> 01:10:53,307 And the whole time I'm saying to myself, "If they only knew. 1174 01:10:54,224 --> 01:10:56,185 If they only knew." 1175 01:10:56,769 --> 01:10:58,395 How did you find out? I mean, 1176 01:10:58,687 --> 01:11:01,690 when was the first time you actually like... 1177 01:11:02,024 --> 01:11:03,275 knew... 1178 01:11:05,194 --> 01:11:07,237 that I was Q Lazzarus? 1179 01:11:08,238 --> 01:11:10,908 The first time I found out, 1180 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,620 I think I was somewhere between 8 and 9 years old and 1181 01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:18,082 Aunt Abbie told me. She told me about all the stuff. 1182 01:11:18,332 --> 01:11:19,583 - My sister. - Yes. 1183 01:11:19,833 --> 01:11:22,503 She told me about stuff you did and showed me your old cassettes 1184 01:11:22,753 --> 01:11:25,214 and all the old photographs and things like that. 1185 01:11:25,547 --> 01:11:28,008 But the first time I really 1186 01:11:28,258 --> 01:11:31,470 knew how major it was, was probably... 1187 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,808 I was playing some video game, I don't remember which it was 1188 01:11:36,058 --> 01:11:38,727 cause it's multiple games but... I heard your song and I was: 1189 01:11:38,977 --> 01:11:43,190 "Wait a minute. This is actually major, actually something big." 1190 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,526 They know the song, 1191 01:11:45,776 --> 01:11:49,530 but the reason why I kept it from James, 1192 01:11:49,780 --> 01:11:53,575 because of what my past was. 1193 01:11:53,951 --> 01:11:57,079 The bad side of it, not the good side. 1194 01:11:57,329 --> 01:12:01,625 Because I wanted him to see me only as "Mom". 1195 01:12:03,127 --> 01:12:10,509 I wanna see this video that Leslie made so many years ago. 1196 01:12:10,843 --> 01:12:12,886 1987. 1197 01:12:13,387 --> 01:12:14,471 Wow. 1198 01:12:16,974 --> 01:12:20,811 I mean who put this on the internet? I don't have no idea. 1199 01:12:22,146 --> 01:12:23,939 Mon Amie Records. 1200 01:12:24,398 --> 01:12:27,776 M-O-N-A-M-I-E Records. 1201 01:12:28,026 --> 01:12:29,862 I can't see without my glasses. 1202 01:12:30,112 --> 01:12:33,782 And they have links to you on Apple Music and you on Spotify. 1203 01:12:34,032 --> 01:12:37,786 So she has my image on her record label, my music. 1204 01:12:38,036 --> 01:12:39,037 And let's go to... 1205 01:12:39,288 --> 01:12:41,623 Let's go to Q Lazzarus, click on that. 1206 01:12:42,624 --> 01:12:45,461 It's a 12-inch single and she is... 1207 01:12:45,752 --> 01:12:48,672 - $13 dollars. - For $13, and it's sold out. 1208 01:12:48,964 --> 01:12:51,258 How do you feel about that, son? 1209 01:12:51,675 --> 01:12:53,260 I just don't understand how you haven't been 1210 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:55,220 getting paid for this for all this time. 1211 01:12:55,512 --> 01:12:57,848 Two demo versions. Who has the demo? 1212 01:12:58,098 --> 01:13:00,476 I don't have the demo. How does she have the demo? 1213 01:13:00,726 --> 01:13:01,977 Or they have the demo? 1214 01:13:02,227 --> 01:13:06,148 "Transferred from Q's original demo cassette from the 80s." 1215 01:13:06,398 --> 01:13:09,985 "From the 80s." Where did they get that from, I wonder? 1216 01:13:10,652 --> 01:13:12,279 Okay, so what is this? 1217 01:13:12,613 --> 01:13:15,908 This is the... It's the page I wanted to show you. 1218 01:13:16,158 --> 01:13:16,992 Yeah. 1219 01:13:17,326 --> 01:13:19,786 So he puts the lyrics here, 1220 01:13:20,037 --> 01:13:22,581 talking about how he doesn't like how 1221 01:13:22,831 --> 01:13:24,166 the lyrics are always messed up. 1222 01:13:24,416 --> 01:13:26,335 When other people sing "Goodbye Horses" he's not 1223 01:13:26,585 --> 01:13:28,462 a big fan of them getting the lyrics wrong. 1224 01:13:28,712 --> 01:13:29,796 So he uploads the lyrics himself here. 1225 01:13:30,047 --> 01:13:30,714 Okay. 1226 01:13:30,964 --> 01:13:34,301 And down here below, it says: 1227 01:13:34,551 --> 01:13:35,969 "Q and B Publishing". 1228 01:13:36,220 --> 01:13:40,891 - That's Q and Bill. - Yeah, that's what I thought. 1229 01:13:41,141 --> 01:13:46,188 That's what we published "Goodbye Horses" under 1230 01:13:46,855 --> 01:13:48,398 from Day One. 1231 01:13:49,816 --> 01:13:54,363 Right, but the copyright after the movie Clerks 2 came out 1232 01:13:54,821 --> 01:13:58,200 was changed to "Garvey Media, LLC". 1233 01:13:58,450 --> 01:14:00,285 Now this was in 2008. 1234 01:14:00,577 --> 01:14:02,788 So I'm trying to figure out... 1235 01:14:03,038 --> 01:14:06,875 How do you go and re-copyright something 1236 01:14:07,125 --> 01:14:08,835 that's already been... 1237 01:14:10,379 --> 01:14:12,381 - Copywritten. - I don't know. 1238 01:14:12,714 --> 01:14:14,132 I don't understand that. 1239 01:14:14,383 --> 01:14:17,386 I don't know how that's possible but... 1240 01:14:18,595 --> 01:14:20,931 Yeah, this is what happened. 1241 01:14:22,766 --> 01:14:24,977 I wonder since he's dead, he died a year after this 1242 01:14:25,227 --> 01:14:26,770 who's getting 1243 01:14:27,020 --> 01:14:28,814 the residuals from this copyright. 1244 01:14:29,064 --> 01:14:31,316 That's something that we need to look further into. 1245 01:14:31,567 --> 01:14:35,571 Did you ever make any money from "Goodbye Horses" like... 1246 01:14:35,821 --> 01:14:38,740 No, except from the movies. 1247 01:14:40,284 --> 01:14:42,327 You weren't paid anything to record the song? 1248 01:14:42,578 --> 01:14:43,579 No. 1249 01:14:45,581 --> 01:14:46,790 No. 1250 01:14:48,917 --> 01:14:50,419 I mean... 1251 01:14:54,214 --> 01:14:55,674 [telephone speaker] 1252 01:14:56,008 --> 01:15:00,053 Hi, good morning. Oh, now it's afternoon. 1253 01:15:00,304 --> 01:15:02,931 This is Diane Luckey calling. How are you? 1254 01:15:03,181 --> 01:15:05,183 - Good, thanks. How are you? - I'm good. 1255 01:15:05,434 --> 01:15:08,061 I've sent in the information and 1256 01:15:08,312 --> 01:15:10,939 I wanted to make sure that you received it. 1257 01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:12,941 Sure, could you give me one moment? 1258 01:15:13,191 --> 01:15:14,860 Okay, thank you. 1259 01:15:17,696 --> 01:15:20,616 Yes, we have received all of your documents 1260 01:15:20,866 --> 01:15:23,118 and somebody will review them and get back to you. 1261 01:15:23,368 --> 01:15:28,999 OK, alright so I'll be looking forward to your phone call. 1262 01:15:29,333 --> 01:15:30,292 Great, thank you so much. 1263 01:15:30,542 --> 01:15:32,961 Thank you so much and have a great day. 1264 01:15:33,211 --> 01:15:35,505 - You too. - Alright honey, bye bye. 1265 01:15:35,922 --> 01:15:37,299 [phone hanging up] 1266 01:15:37,549 --> 01:15:40,052 Well, I hope... 1267 01:15:41,678 --> 01:15:44,014 They accept me because 1268 01:15:44,264 --> 01:15:47,601 I need a lawyer in order to track 1269 01:15:48,935 --> 01:15:51,813 this madness down. 1270 01:15:52,814 --> 01:15:54,775 I want to see vengeance. 1271 01:15:55,025 --> 01:15:57,069 I want to see some justice for what happened. 1272 01:15:57,319 --> 01:16:01,531 I want to see if it's possible that she gets back pay 1273 01:16:01,782 --> 01:16:04,660 for what these people have taken from her 1274 01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:08,872 and the royalties get put back into her name and... 1275 01:16:09,373 --> 01:16:12,376 She starts living the life that she was supposed to. 1276 01:16:12,668 --> 01:16:15,337 You're not supposed to just... 1277 01:16:15,587 --> 01:16:19,925 be a star one day and then not the next day. 1278 01:16:20,175 --> 01:16:22,886 I know it's the 15 minutes of fame thing 1279 01:16:23,136 --> 01:16:24,554 and all that sort of thing but 1280 01:16:24,805 --> 01:16:27,766 she was on her way to being something major so... 1281 01:16:28,016 --> 01:16:30,352 And now everything's just... 1282 01:16:30,602 --> 01:16:31,895 Gone. 1283 01:16:34,106 --> 01:16:36,733 - Hello. - Alright so I brought him, ok? 1284 01:16:36,983 --> 01:16:40,070 Yes, you better not come without bringing him. 1285 01:16:41,863 --> 01:16:42,989 James better come! 1286 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,616 - You look good, girl! - Thank you. 1287 01:16:44,866 --> 01:16:46,076 What you doin'? 1288 01:16:46,326 --> 01:16:48,203 Diane, you're losing a lot of weight. 1289 01:16:48,453 --> 01:16:51,289 Girl, the hip can't take no weight. 1290 01:16:52,958 --> 01:16:54,042 Are we ready for me? 1291 01:16:54,292 --> 01:16:56,044 - Yeah, we're ready. - Okay. 1292 01:16:57,796 --> 01:17:02,801 So what happened was Eva got into my car. 1293 01:17:03,343 --> 01:17:04,386 Oh. 1294 01:17:05,345 --> 01:17:06,847 And... 1295 01:17:09,057 --> 01:17:11,768 She asked me the most strangest thing. 1296 01:17:12,018 --> 01:17:14,771 She said, "Do you know who Q Lazzarus is?" 1297 01:17:15,021 --> 01:17:16,898 - Are you serious? - I swear. 1298 01:17:17,149 --> 01:17:19,234 - Are you serious? - I swear to God. 1299 01:17:19,484 --> 01:17:20,527 I swear to God. 1300 01:17:20,777 --> 01:17:21,945 Wow. 1301 01:17:22,279 --> 01:17:25,407 She caught my ass off-guard. But I was quick. 1302 01:17:25,657 --> 01:17:28,785 I said, "Yeah, I've heard of her." 1303 01:17:29,035 --> 01:17:33,707 But something on my heart was so heavy from me saying no. 1304 01:17:33,957 --> 01:17:36,835 Because I had a dream that I was performing. 1305 01:17:37,085 --> 01:17:41,381 I was performing hard, I was performing so hard 1306 01:17:41,631 --> 01:17:44,342 On stage, with the band! 1307 01:17:44,676 --> 01:17:47,679 And I woke up and I felt so energetic, 1308 01:17:47,929 --> 01:17:50,515 I was like, "I'm cool, that was a good dream, you know? 1309 01:17:50,682 --> 01:17:53,894 I could have done some more hours of that, you know." 1310 01:17:54,144 --> 01:17:56,188 And then she got in my car. 1311 01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:58,815 For me, you know what it was? 1312 01:17:59,065 --> 01:18:01,902 It was the first time since the time I said, 1313 01:18:02,152 --> 01:18:04,613 "I gotta leave Q Lazzarus at the curb." 1314 01:18:04,863 --> 01:18:08,784 It was the first time that I said, "You know what? 1315 01:18:09,034 --> 01:18:12,412 I'm proud of Q Lazzarus! Let me pick this bitch back up!" 1316 01:18:12,662 --> 01:18:14,790 And I turned around when she got off and I said, 1317 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,209 "Yes my name is Q Lazzarus, nice to meet you." 1318 01:18:17,459 --> 01:18:20,045 Wow, that is something like out of a movie! 1319 01:18:20,295 --> 01:18:21,379 That's like Jonathan Demme. 1320 01:18:21,630 --> 01:18:23,131 The same thing with "Goodbye Horses"! 1321 01:18:23,381 --> 01:18:25,759 Hello! Hello! 1322 01:18:26,176 --> 01:18:27,844 Yes! Yes! 1323 01:18:28,303 --> 01:18:30,597 Wow, cause he did the same thing, 1324 01:18:30,847 --> 01:18:32,724 he listened to your music. 1325 01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:34,434 Wow! 1326 01:18:34,684 --> 01:18:36,436 Isn't that crazy? Now you tell me. 1327 01:18:36,686 --> 01:18:37,395 It's destiny. 1328 01:18:37,646 --> 01:18:40,440 - You tell me. - It's supposed to be. 1329 01:18:40,690 --> 01:18:41,650 Yeah. 1330 01:18:41,900 --> 01:18:43,777 I think my mom... 1331 01:18:45,070 --> 01:18:49,574 You know she wants to jump back into the scene, 1332 01:18:49,825 --> 01:18:50,909 the music scene. 1333 01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:52,619 And I think she should. 1334 01:18:52,869 --> 01:18:56,456 Everybody deserves to live their dream, 1335 01:18:56,706 --> 01:18:59,459 and pursue what makes them happy. 1336 01:18:59,709 --> 01:19:02,712 Especially, you know, she spent the last, you know, 1337 01:19:02,963 --> 01:19:05,131 my whole life, taking care of me, 1338 01:19:05,382 --> 01:19:07,592 and taking care of family. 1339 01:19:07,843 --> 01:19:09,719 Why not, you know... 1340 01:19:10,387 --> 01:19:11,763 Do what makes you happy? 1341 01:19:12,013 --> 01:19:12,973 And her fan base is there, 1342 01:19:13,223 --> 01:19:16,560 it's not like she's jumping into something so cold turkey, 1343 01:19:16,810 --> 01:19:19,813 so out of her nature. 1344 01:19:20,063 --> 01:19:22,482 This is what she came from. 1345 01:19:22,732 --> 01:19:26,027 This is what she knows. This is her first life. 1346 01:19:27,863 --> 01:19:29,739 [Facetime ringing] 1347 01:19:31,408 --> 01:19:33,618 How come he's not getting it? 1348 01:19:34,035 --> 01:19:36,162 [shout out, laughter] 1349 01:19:36,496 --> 01:19:38,331 Now you believe it? 1350 01:19:38,748 --> 01:19:40,333 I'm alive! 1351 01:19:40,917 --> 01:19:43,795 [laughter] 1352 01:19:46,089 --> 01:19:49,050 - I missed you so much. - Diane Luckey, I believe. 1353 01:19:49,467 --> 01:19:51,845 What'd you say? Say it again! 1354 01:19:52,679 --> 01:19:54,931 Diane Luckey... 1355 01:19:55,223 --> 01:19:56,057 [laughter] 1356 01:19:56,308 --> 01:19:59,102 - It's been 30 years I believe. - It has. 1357 01:19:59,603 --> 01:20:00,812 It has, Shane. 1358 01:20:01,104 --> 01:20:02,689 When did you move back to America? 1359 01:20:02,939 --> 01:20:04,858 In the 90s and you know, 1360 01:20:05,108 --> 01:20:07,193 I got caught up in a lot of things... 1361 01:20:07,444 --> 01:20:08,695 You know, life. 1362 01:20:08,945 --> 01:20:11,948 I still had a life and I still lived and... 1363 01:20:12,282 --> 01:20:14,242 You know, I made it through. 1364 01:20:14,576 --> 01:20:22,250 So, I want to put the band back together. 1365 01:20:22,792 --> 01:20:25,503 It's gonna be hard without Mark. 1366 01:20:26,588 --> 01:20:28,048 However... 1367 01:20:29,549 --> 01:20:33,261 Regardless of what it really is, I want to work with you. 1368 01:20:34,179 --> 01:20:36,264 - Alright Q. - Yeah, yeah. 1369 01:20:36,514 --> 01:20:38,975 I love you, Shane. You don't know how much. 1370 01:20:39,225 --> 01:20:43,355 And we're also gonna do a concert in New York. 1371 01:20:43,605 --> 01:20:44,147 We are? 1372 01:20:44,397 --> 01:20:44,940 Yeah now... 1373 01:20:45,732 --> 01:20:48,652 Have you been singing much, in the last 20 years? 1374 01:20:48,902 --> 01:20:53,114 I haven't sung at all. I haven't done anything. 1375 01:20:53,365 --> 01:20:55,617 I told you, I walked off the planet. 1376 01:20:55,867 --> 01:20:56,910 I did. 1377 01:20:57,619 --> 01:20:59,579 And now she's... 1378 01:21:00,497 --> 01:21:02,832 Now I hear her singing more often. 1379 01:21:03,083 --> 01:21:04,125 [laughter] 1380 01:21:04,376 --> 01:21:05,794 Which I enjoy. 1381 01:21:06,962 --> 01:21:09,339 And you know... 1382 01:21:09,881 --> 01:21:11,675 It's about time. 1383 01:21:12,509 --> 01:21:15,637 ♪ And I said, "Oh no sir, ♪ 1384 01:21:15,887 --> 01:21:18,181 ♪ I must say wrong. ♪ 1385 01:21:19,099 --> 01:21:22,727 ♪ I must disagree, oh no sir, ♪ 1386 01:21:23,478 --> 01:21:25,897 ♪ I must say wrong. ♪ 1387 01:21:26,856 --> 01:21:29,693 ♪ Won't you listen to me?" ♪ 1388 01:21:38,076 --> 01:21:39,744 [beeper rings] 1389 01:22:03,810 --> 01:22:05,520 [phone hangs up] 1390 01:22:06,187 --> 01:22:10,775 We're stuck in this and listen, we don't know how long. 1391 01:22:11,026 --> 01:22:13,611 We really don't know how long, you know? 1392 01:22:16,322 --> 01:22:19,534 But most people are not traveling. 1393 01:22:20,452 --> 01:22:22,996 And... That's good. 1394 01:22:23,663 --> 01:22:26,666 But it's... I haven't worked... 1395 01:22:26,916 --> 01:22:30,086 I took myself out of work two weeks ago. 1396 01:22:31,588 --> 01:22:34,466 No justice, no peace. 1397 01:22:34,716 --> 01:22:36,676 - No justice! - No peace! 1398 01:22:36,926 --> 01:22:38,887 Say his name, George Floyd! 1399 01:22:39,137 --> 01:22:43,224 Say his name, George Floyd! Say his name, George Floyd! 1400 01:22:43,475 --> 01:22:46,478 I can't breathe! I can't breathe! 1401 01:22:46,728 --> 01:22:49,773 I can't breathe! I can't breathe! 1402 01:22:50,648 --> 01:22:53,651 If I missed out on this, 1403 01:22:53,902 --> 01:22:55,028 and I didn't, you know, 1404 01:22:55,278 --> 01:22:57,322 I wasn't in the streets with my people that night, 1405 01:22:57,572 --> 01:22:59,908 I wouldn't have been able to look myself in the mirror. 1406 01:23:00,241 --> 01:23:04,079 So I feel like they've been just as effective as 1407 01:23:04,329 --> 01:23:08,124 the ones from the 60s, and the riots from the 90s. 1408 01:23:10,126 --> 01:23:13,505 And any sort of protest or riot, 1409 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,716 or any sort of action towards 1410 01:23:17,133 --> 01:23:21,179 the systematic racism in this country throughout the years. 1411 01:23:21,429 --> 01:23:23,681 All those were effective but, 1412 01:23:24,015 --> 01:23:25,767 how effective are we talking? 1413 01:23:26,017 --> 01:23:27,769 You young people are doing the right thing. 1414 01:23:28,019 --> 01:23:31,022 You are doing the right thing, you're thinking! 1415 01:23:31,272 --> 01:23:33,066 This is a change! 1416 01:23:33,316 --> 01:23:37,153 You are going to be... You're bringing back reform! 1417 01:23:37,403 --> 01:23:40,657 You know Mommy never seen nothing like this before! 1418 01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:44,327 Daddy never seen nothing like this before! 1419 01:23:45,203 --> 01:23:46,621 Never! 1420 01:23:49,290 --> 01:23:52,127 Don't drop the ball. 1421 01:24:01,177 --> 01:24:03,555 So right now we're gonna go to the airport, 1422 01:24:03,805 --> 01:24:06,182 I'm gonna head over to Alaska. 1423 01:24:06,432 --> 01:24:08,393 I'm gonna spend the night in Anchorage and then, 1424 01:24:08,643 --> 01:24:10,728 depending if I decide to stay in Anchorage 1425 01:24:10,979 --> 01:24:13,356 or decide to go to Kodiak. 1426 01:24:13,648 --> 01:24:15,108 That's where I'll go tomorrow. 1427 01:24:15,358 --> 01:24:16,985 I probably won't be back for a while. 1428 01:24:17,235 --> 01:24:18,611 What are you gonna do there? 1429 01:24:18,862 --> 01:24:21,156 I'm gonna work on a fishing boat. 1430 01:24:31,499 --> 01:24:32,834 [sighing] 1431 01:24:33,126 --> 01:24:34,752 Yeah. 1432 01:24:35,003 --> 01:24:36,379 Just waiting for my mom now. 1433 01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:37,881 You know. 1434 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,592 Taking a while. 1435 01:24:41,634 --> 01:24:45,138 Just want to put some lipstick on, that's all. 1436 01:24:47,015 --> 01:24:49,893 Something simple girls do. 1437 01:24:55,857 --> 01:24:59,402 You have to take this step, honey, I know. 1438 01:25:00,069 --> 01:25:01,321 You have to take this step. 1439 01:25:01,571 --> 01:25:03,156 I don't want you to take this step, 1440 01:25:03,406 --> 01:25:04,949 I see no need. 1441 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,870 You have a college education, you're in New York. 1442 01:25:09,245 --> 01:25:12,832 I know we're in a pandemic, 1443 01:25:13,291 --> 01:25:15,835 but you still have opportunities. 1444 01:25:17,003 --> 01:25:20,840 So I have to bear down and accept it, 1445 01:25:21,883 --> 01:25:25,094 but I don't like it. And I don't like it at all. 1446 01:25:25,345 --> 01:25:29,724 I don't understand why you have to leave so quickly. 1447 01:25:30,767 --> 01:25:32,644 You want me to wear the gloves, right? 1448 01:25:32,894 --> 01:25:34,312 Yes, I do. 1449 01:25:41,527 --> 01:25:44,405 Do you always have this in the car with you? 1450 01:25:44,656 --> 01:25:47,158 I keep this on me. I keep this in my purse. 1451 01:25:47,408 --> 01:25:50,286 But I didn't want to carry my purse today. 1452 01:25:51,246 --> 01:25:54,249 I feel very funny, very... 1453 01:25:55,416 --> 01:25:57,252 Emotional. 1454 01:25:58,127 --> 01:25:59,504 Where you going, to Kennedy? 1455 01:25:59,754 --> 01:26:00,463 Yeah. 1456 01:26:00,713 --> 01:26:03,174 It's gonna take me... 1457 01:26:03,424 --> 01:26:05,551 And what if we run into traffic? 1458 01:26:05,802 --> 01:26:10,807 James, you're not running into traffic, not unless somebody 1459 01:26:11,140 --> 01:26:13,851 who got drunk out of their damn minds, 1460 01:26:15,853 --> 01:26:20,400 and had an accident this morning trying to get home. 1461 01:26:22,151 --> 01:26:23,778 [car cruising] 1462 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,030 You see anybody on this road? 1463 01:26:26,281 --> 01:26:26,906 No. 1464 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,700 Uh hmm. 1465 01:26:34,497 --> 01:26:36,207 This ain't gonna go nowhere. 1466 01:26:36,457 --> 01:26:37,542 It is. 1467 01:26:49,554 --> 01:26:50,805 Don't freak out, honey. 1468 01:26:51,055 --> 01:26:52,849 I'm not freaking out, Mom. 1469 01:27:01,899 --> 01:27:02,984 It says what? 1470 01:27:03,234 --> 01:27:05,111 It's at 11 on the dot, that I have to go. 1471 01:27:05,361 --> 01:27:06,821 I'm not gonna... 1472 01:27:07,238 --> 01:27:08,906 We left the house at 9 o'clock! 1473 01:27:09,157 --> 01:27:10,867 And then we took forever. 1474 01:27:11,117 --> 01:27:12,410 Forever to do what? 1475 01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:15,663 We shouldn't have left at 9. We should've left... 1476 01:27:16,414 --> 01:27:20,418 James, we just gonna sit here and have this fucking argument 1477 01:27:20,668 --> 01:27:24,297 that's not gonna mean a damn thing? 1478 01:27:25,006 --> 01:27:27,592 Seriously? Okay. 1479 01:27:30,178 --> 01:27:32,555 This is absolute lock, Mom. 1480 01:27:35,016 --> 01:27:37,602 And it's not... It's in less than an hour. 1481 01:27:37,852 --> 01:27:40,563 - Stop James. - Mom, it's not stop. This is... 1482 01:27:40,813 --> 01:27:43,316 Okay, alright. Hey, alright. 1483 01:27:43,733 --> 01:27:46,361 I don't know what else to say, honey. 1484 01:27:46,778 --> 01:27:49,113 I didn't cause a five-car collision. 1485 01:27:49,364 --> 01:27:52,909 No Mom, but you are the reason why we left so late! 1486 01:27:53,826 --> 01:27:56,954 So that flight is definitely going out? 1487 01:27:57,205 --> 01:27:59,957 It's not like being pushed back? 1488 01:28:00,541 --> 01:28:02,710 That's the last one too? 1489 01:28:05,922 --> 01:28:08,508 But it's not gonna change your life! 1490 01:28:08,758 --> 01:28:09,300 I know. 1491 01:28:09,550 --> 01:28:11,969 One day is not gonna change your life. 1492 01:28:12,345 --> 01:28:15,223 And so what I'm saying to you is that, 1493 01:28:15,473 --> 01:28:20,478 if you want to have longevity in this world and be happy, 1494 01:28:21,145 --> 01:28:23,147 you gotta let shit go! 1495 01:28:23,398 --> 01:28:25,608 You just can't hold onto it. 1496 01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,112 Because I would have been dead a long time ago. 1497 01:28:29,779 --> 01:28:34,409 Learn what battles to pick, and what wars to fight. 1498 01:28:36,327 --> 01:28:38,079 You're going home and 1499 01:28:38,329 --> 01:28:39,914 you're gonna take your flight in the morning, 1500 01:28:40,164 --> 01:28:44,001 whatever it costs you extra, and I will reimburse you. 1501 01:28:44,252 --> 01:28:45,044 Okay? 1502 01:28:45,294 --> 01:28:46,129 Okay. 1503 01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:47,839 Alright, is this over? 1504 01:28:48,089 --> 01:28:49,173 Yeah. 1505 01:29:01,102 --> 01:29:04,355 What's the address to the hospital? 1506 01:29:04,814 --> 01:29:08,776 Yes, it is gonna be the left hip. 1507 01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:14,031 So I'm here at the hospital. 1508 01:29:14,991 --> 01:29:17,410 James is in Alaska. 1509 01:29:18,369 --> 01:29:20,580 I wish he was here. 1510 01:29:23,458 --> 01:29:26,878 But he planned this adventure for such a long time, 1511 01:29:27,128 --> 01:29:29,464 almost seven years. 1512 01:29:31,716 --> 01:29:33,134 And... 1513 01:29:33,926 --> 01:29:39,724 I just didn't want to ask him to stay for this operation. 1514 01:29:42,101 --> 01:29:45,897 I want him happy. I want him to be very happy. 1515 01:29:48,858 --> 01:29:51,861 But if anything do happen, son... 1516 01:29:53,529 --> 01:29:57,950 You remember Mama loves you very, very much. 1517 01:29:58,743 --> 01:30:01,871 I will always love you. 1518 01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,834 And I will always be in your heart. 1519 01:30:08,461 --> 01:30:09,462 Okay? 1520 01:30:13,299 --> 01:30:16,260 This is my baby, James! 1521 01:30:16,511 --> 01:30:18,554 See he's here with me. 1522 01:30:18,846 --> 01:30:20,348 [riffing] 1523 01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,016 Anyway. 1524 01:30:22,266 --> 01:30:24,477 And he doesn't know that you've had the surgery, right? 1525 01:30:24,727 --> 01:30:27,146 No, he knows. He's called Dad. 1526 01:30:27,396 --> 01:30:31,526 It's gonna take me a month to really heal where... 1527 01:30:31,776 --> 01:30:35,988 We're gonna get the action on again, you know? But, yeah... 1528 01:30:37,073 --> 01:30:39,033 It takes time. 1529 01:30:39,283 --> 01:30:41,202 [laughter] 1530 01:30:42,078 --> 01:30:45,289 It takes time to get there. But I'm there. 1531 01:30:46,707 --> 01:30:48,000 I'm there. 1532 01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:51,087 And I'm grateful you're here, 1533 01:30:52,672 --> 01:30:58,636 to at least make a recording and document 1534 01:30:58,886 --> 01:31:01,973 what really has happened. 1535 01:31:03,975 --> 01:31:07,311 Because this is my life. 1536 01:31:18,447 --> 01:31:21,409 Well, I totally forgot what I was saying, 1537 01:31:21,659 --> 01:31:26,247 but I know that I'm almost coming to that full circle. 1538 01:31:27,415 --> 01:31:30,459 And it has to happen. 1539 01:31:30,793 --> 01:31:32,253 And it will. 1540 01:31:33,004 --> 01:31:37,466 And I'm feeling a little proud of myself 1541 01:31:37,717 --> 01:31:39,927 because this time I'm ready. 1542 01:31:41,512 --> 01:31:43,097 So... 1543 01:31:43,389 --> 01:31:45,057 [laughter] 1544 01:31:45,725 --> 01:31:48,227 ♪ Let's bring it on. ♪ 1545 01:31:48,477 --> 01:31:49,562 [more laughter] 1546 01:31:49,854 --> 01:31:50,980 I'm ready. 1547 01:31:51,564 --> 01:31:55,610 Wrap it around, you have something to attach to it 1548 01:31:55,860 --> 01:31:57,737 and you wear it as a belt. 1549 01:31:57,987 --> 01:31:59,697 Isn't that cool? 1550 01:32:00,031 --> 01:32:02,450 [laughter] 1551 01:32:02,825 --> 01:32:06,287 - But I still can't believe... - Oh, she is so cool! 1552 01:32:06,537 --> 01:32:07,496 [laughter] 1553 01:32:07,747 --> 01:32:09,373 It's up to my ankles. 1554 01:32:09,624 --> 01:32:11,792 Oh little one, I have to leave you. 1555 01:32:12,043 --> 01:32:14,295 I have to pick up somebody. 1556 01:32:15,087 --> 01:32:17,798 What time is it? My goodness. 1557 01:32:19,050 --> 01:32:20,718 Maybe like 3:30. 1558 01:32:20,968 --> 01:32:22,720 Yeah, no, I have to get back to Staten Island. 1559 01:32:22,970 --> 01:32:25,431 - Oh, 3:45. - Yeah, I need to go. 1560 01:32:27,975 --> 01:32:29,602 [beeping] 1561 01:33:11,268 --> 01:33:13,396 [phone hangs up] 1562 01:33:17,858 --> 01:33:20,486 She went out to the car at 6 o'clock 1563 01:33:20,736 --> 01:33:23,114 in the morning for some reason. 1564 01:33:24,031 --> 01:33:25,741 And, um... 1565 01:33:28,661 --> 01:33:31,831 To get something out of the car I guess and... 1566 01:33:32,748 --> 01:33:35,876 On the way back up the, she got up the steps 1567 01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:38,045 in front of the door, 1568 01:33:38,504 --> 01:33:41,924 managed to open the door and fell. 1569 01:33:42,174 --> 01:33:43,843 Broke her... 1570 01:33:45,511 --> 01:33:47,430 Broke her leg. 1571 01:33:47,805 --> 01:33:51,559 And then she couldn't stand on her own so they said, 1572 01:33:51,809 --> 01:33:53,728 "You have to go to the hospital." 1573 01:33:53,978 --> 01:33:57,064 So they took her to... 1574 01:33:57,314 --> 01:34:00,526 To um, fix the leg. 1575 01:34:02,236 --> 01:34:03,696 And um... 1576 01:34:06,741 --> 01:34:10,453 Maybe that's when the infection set in, I don't know. 1577 01:34:12,621 --> 01:34:16,625 So while she was in the physical rehab, 1578 01:34:17,418 --> 01:34:19,086 her health started to decline 1579 01:34:19,336 --> 01:34:23,799 and they ultimately had to bring her back into the hospital. 1580 01:34:24,049 --> 01:34:25,968 While in the hospital, 1581 01:34:26,218 --> 01:34:29,054 she was put into a medically-induced coma, 1582 01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:34,268 and from there, things really started to downwards spiral. 1583 01:34:35,895 --> 01:34:38,230 And then I think about a week or so after that, 1584 01:34:38,481 --> 01:34:41,025 my aunt called me up and said 1585 01:34:41,275 --> 01:34:45,446 that I have to, I should come back home because... 1586 01:34:46,197 --> 01:34:47,239 It's... 1587 01:34:47,615 --> 01:34:48,783 It's over. 1588 01:34:49,784 --> 01:34:51,827 It was sepsis. 1589 01:34:52,077 --> 01:34:55,206 But ultimately it was doctor neglect. 1590 01:34:56,373 --> 01:35:01,170 You know, I think I told you before in the past, 1591 01:35:01,504 --> 01:35:04,965 it's a common story for women of color to die that way. 1592 01:35:05,216 --> 01:35:08,636 Of just complete neglect or malpractice. 1593 01:35:10,596 --> 01:35:12,473 She's gone. 1594 01:35:22,274 --> 01:35:24,318 She's gone. 1595 01:35:30,783 --> 01:35:36,914 ♪ I've been thinking, ♪ 1596 01:35:37,790 --> 01:35:43,420 ♪ of the things you said to me yesterday. ♪ 1597 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:52,221 ♪ I've been wondering, ♪ 1598 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:58,435 ♪ if it meant you're gonna go away. ♪ 1599 01:36:01,856 --> 01:36:04,441 ♪ Don't you know, ♪ 1600 01:36:05,359 --> 01:36:07,903 ♪ I love you so? ♪ 1601 01:36:09,154 --> 01:36:13,784 ♪ Drown your eyes in my light...♪ 1602 01:36:15,870 --> 01:36:17,872 ♪ He told me, ♪ 1603 01:36:18,330 --> 01:36:20,916 ♪ "I've seen it rise. ♪ 1604 01:36:22,001 --> 01:36:23,127 ♪ But, ♪ 1605 01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:27,715 it always falls. ♪ 1606 01:36:30,801 --> 01:36:36,015 ♪ I've seen him come, I've seen him go." ♪ 1607 01:36:36,724 --> 01:36:43,689 ♪ He said,"All things pass into the night." ♪ 1608 01:36:44,356 --> 01:36:50,029 ♪ And I said, "Oh no, sir, I must say wrong. ♪ 1609 01:36:50,905 --> 01:36:57,536 ♪ I must disagree. Oh no, sir, I must say wrong. ♪ 1610 01:36:58,829 --> 01:37:00,831 ♪ Won't you listen to me?" ♪ 1611 01:37:01,081 --> 01:37:03,375 ♪ He told me, ♪ 1612 01:37:03,959 --> 01:37:06,879 ♪ "I've seen it all before. ♪ 1613 01:37:08,464 --> 01:37:10,591 ♪ I've been there. ♪ 1614 01:37:11,383 --> 01:37:16,138 ♪ I've seen my hopes and dreams lying on the ground. ♪ 1615 01:37:16,388 --> 01:37:21,602 ♪ I've seen the sky just begin to fall." ♪ 1616 01:37:22,102 --> 01:37:29,360 ♪ He said, "All things pass into the night." ♪ 1617 01:37:29,693 --> 01:37:35,741 ♪ And I said, "Oh no, sir. I must say wrong. ♪ 1618 01:37:36,325 --> 01:37:42,748 ♪ I must disagree. Oh no, sir, I must say wrong. ♪ 1619 01:37:44,166 --> 01:37:47,211 ♪ Won't you listen to me?" ♪ 1620 01:37:49,672 --> 01:37:52,299 ♪ [music continues] ♪ 1621 01:38:04,812 --> 01:38:08,482 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1622 01:38:09,108 --> 01:38:12,194 ♪ I'm flying over you. ♪ 1623 01:38:12,444 --> 01:38:16,365 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1624 01:38:16,615 --> 01:38:19,743 ♪ I'm flying over you. ♪ 1625 01:38:20,035 --> 01:38:23,831 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1626 01:38:24,248 --> 01:38:27,042 ♪ I'm flying over you. ♪ 1627 01:38:27,376 --> 01:38:31,130 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1628 01:38:31,714 --> 01:38:36,927 ♪ I'm flying, flying, flying over you. ♪ 1629 01:38:37,761 --> 01:38:40,681 ♪ [music continues] ♪ 1630 01:38:50,065 --> 01:38:54,236 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1631 01:38:54,611 --> 01:38:57,489 ♪ I'm flying over you. ♪ 1632 01:38:57,740 --> 01:39:01,744 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1633 01:39:02,161 --> 01:39:05,039 ♪ I'm flying over you. ♪ 1634 01:39:05,330 --> 01:39:09,209 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1635 01:39:09,626 --> 01:39:12,421 ♪ I'm flying over you. ♪ 1636 01:39:12,796 --> 01:39:16,675 ♪ Goodbye horses, ♪ 1637 01:39:17,217 --> 01:39:22,014 ♪ I'm flying, flying, flying over you. ♪ 1638 01:39:24,391 --> 01:39:27,436 ♪ [harmonizing] ♪ 1639 01:39:38,322 --> 01:39:39,198 Goodbye horses. 1640 01:39:39,448 --> 01:39:41,200 That's the real Q Lazzarus, y'all. 1641 01:39:41,450 --> 01:39:43,535 And don't say I'm not. 1642 01:43:09,408 --> 01:43:12,077 Subtitling: Mistral Artist-NYC