1 00:00:01,210 --> 00:00:25,570 ♪♪ 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,370 [Bradley] These presses normally turn out 5 00:00:35,370 --> 00:00:36,740 a half million copies 6 00:00:36,740 --> 00:00:38,960 of Washington's only morning newspaper. 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,660 But night before last, 8 00:00:40,660 --> 00:00:42,620 according to officials of The Washington Post, 9 00:00:42,620 --> 00:00:45,300 the press men set fires, slashed plates, 10 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,170 removed parts and destroyed equipment just hours 11 00:00:48,170 --> 00:00:50,800 after their contract expired 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,340 and The Post was forced to shut down. 13 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:54,760 A spokesman for the company 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,140 that makes the printing and folding machines 15 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:58,560 said he'd seen damage like this 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,810 in other countries due to political unrest, 17 00:01:00,810 --> 00:01:04,110 but never before in the United States. 18 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:05,320 [crowd chanting indistinctly] 19 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:12,990 [Katharine] We were stunned 20 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:14,570 by having the presses so badly damaged, 21 00:01:14,570 --> 00:01:16,910 electrical wiring had been ripped out. 22 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:19,080 Essential operating parts removed 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,500 and newsprint rolls slashed. 24 00:01:23,710 --> 00:01:28,920 [chanting "Boycott The Post!"] 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,680 [Katharine] The tensions for all of us were indescribable, 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,970 and the strain on me was the worst I have ever experienced. 27 00:01:39,890 --> 00:01:42,100 The uncertainties, the complications, 28 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:44,600 the violence against the people who were working 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,610 were all overwhelming. 30 00:01:46,610 --> 00:01:51,820 ♪♪ 31 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:54,530 I didn't really see how we were going to manage. 32 00:01:58,030 --> 00:02:00,870 I felt desperate and secretly wondered 33 00:02:00,870 --> 00:02:05,750 if I might have blown the whole thing and lost the paper. 34 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:11,590 [Jennings] She is one of the most powerful women 35 00:02:11,590 --> 00:02:13,010 in the country. 36 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:15,680 She led an important American newspaper 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,680 through very important times. 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,930 [Brokaw] A woman born to great wealth and privilege, 39 00:02:19,930 --> 00:02:22,520 a woman who then struggled to find her own identity 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,350 when she went through a wrenching personal tragedy. 41 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:28,520 [Walters] From homemaker to the head of a publishing empire. 42 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,980 [Brokaw] The woman is Katharine Graham, 43 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:31,940 publisher of The Washington Post, 44 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:34,650 the grand dame of American journalism. 45 00:02:34,650 --> 00:02:37,070 [Male reporter] Much has been made of Katharine Graham's social ties 46 00:02:37,070 --> 00:02:39,330 to the movers and shakers of the world 47 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:42,870 that have included everyone from LBJ to Warren Buffett. 48 00:02:42,870 --> 00:02:45,080 [Warren] I've had a number of heroes in life, 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,710 and Kay Graham was definitely a hero of mine. 50 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:52,170 [Warren] She was an accidental publisher of what became 51 00:02:52,170 --> 00:02:55,720 the most important paper in the United States 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,930 at a crucial time in the history of the country. 53 00:02:58,930 --> 00:03:03,060 [Walters] Your life in many ways is like two separate lives. 54 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:06,640 How would you describe each life in a nutshell? 55 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:09,230 Doormat wife. 56 00:03:09,230 --> 00:03:11,520 Working woman. 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,650 [Rose] Now she has written a very candid account of her life. 58 00:03:14,650 --> 00:03:17,950 [Brokaw] Her autobiography is a stunningly candid account, 59 00:03:17,950 --> 00:03:20,200 including the affairs, a mental illness, 60 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,950 and the suicide of her husband, Phil Graham. 61 00:03:22,950 --> 00:03:25,000 I really don't suppose 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,580 that I meant to just tell everything to everybody. 63 00:03:28,580 --> 00:03:31,540 But once I sat down to write my story, 64 00:03:31,540 --> 00:03:35,130 I just tend to be frank and open. 65 00:03:35,130 --> 00:03:37,470 I told it the best I could. 66 00:03:37,470 --> 00:04:18,840 ♪♪ 67 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:20,760 [Newsreel announcer] The newspaper page is made up 68 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,800 within a heavy metal frame called a chase. 69 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,270 Type and pictures are now in the spaces allotted to them 70 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:32,020 in dummies worked out well in advance. 71 00:04:32,020 --> 00:04:34,020 [Katharine] In June of 1933, 72 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:36,150 my father bought The Washington Post 73 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:40,660 at a public auction for $825,000. 74 00:04:40,660 --> 00:04:42,490 None of us could have known then 75 00:04:42,490 --> 00:04:46,240 what a transforming event this would be in all our lives. 76 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:51,120 [Warren] Eugene Meyer was a huge figure 77 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,130 in Wall Street, in Washington. 78 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:55,340 He started in Wall Street with a very small sum 79 00:04:55,340 --> 00:04:58,170 and went on to become Chairman of the Fed. 80 00:04:58,170 --> 00:05:00,630 They were the first out of the World Bank. 81 00:05:00,630 --> 00:05:04,350 He was a remarkable man. 82 00:05:04,350 --> 00:05:07,600 [Katharine] From my first visit to the paper in June of 1933, 83 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,350 The Post was constantly part of my life. 84 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,270 I found myself deeply involved with the struggle 85 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:16,730 to improve the paper. 86 00:05:16,730 --> 00:05:18,360 I read The Post daily, 87 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,530 commented, encouraged, and even criticized. 88 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:24,370 When I left for college a year after the purchase, 89 00:05:24,370 --> 00:05:26,740 my parents and I corresponded constantly 90 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:29,410 about what was happening. 91 00:05:29,410 --> 00:05:32,160 You graduated from the University of Chicago 92 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,710 and had your stint out at the San Francisco News. 93 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:37,750 That sounds like a great summer you spent out there, 94 00:05:37,750 --> 00:05:39,630 and indeed you were covering 95 00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:41,880 as a young labor reporter trainee. 96 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,640 I mean, the San Francisco waterfront is a great site. 97 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,600 [Katharine] I covered a longshoreman's labor dispute. 98 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,680 It was a lockout, 99 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,190 and I got to know the negotiator for the unions 100 00:05:55,190 --> 00:05:58,980 and the head of the Warehouse Men's Union. 101 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:00,980 Although it isn't correct these days, 102 00:06:00,980 --> 00:06:02,820 I socialized with them at night 103 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:04,820 and we went up and down the waterfront, 104 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:07,830 drinking what is known as boilermakers. 105 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:11,500 And they were whiskey -- whiskey and beer mixed. 106 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:13,330 And you could get a third one free 107 00:06:13,330 --> 00:06:16,000 if you paid 25 cents for the first two. 108 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,920 You know, there was always a piano player in every bar, 109 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,550 and it was a really wonderfully romantic moment. 110 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:27,510 I had a great time. 111 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:29,720 [Lamb] Then you returned to Washington. 112 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,270 Well, my father came out and said, 113 00:06:31,270 --> 00:06:34,020 "I thought you were coming home. 114 00:06:34,020 --> 00:06:37,100 And aren't you coming to work on The Post?" 115 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:40,480 What did he mean? 116 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,440 And what did I think? 117 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,240 I'm sure that he wasn't talking to my sisters 118 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,700 or even my brother in this way. 119 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:50,660 I'm equally sure that neither one of us saw me as a manager. 120 00:06:50,660 --> 00:06:52,450 Looking back, 121 00:06:52,450 --> 00:06:54,370 I can only assume that I wanted to be a journalist 122 00:06:54,370 --> 00:06:56,250 and that he had a newspaper. 123 00:06:59,420 --> 00:07:02,460 And so I came and went to work 124 00:07:02,460 --> 00:07:05,130 on the editorial page of The Post, 125 00:07:05,130 --> 00:07:07,840 as the editor of the letters to the editor. 126 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:10,560 And I wrote occasional editorials, 127 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,100 the kind that tell you not to walk on the grass. 128 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:14,810 [laughter] 129 00:07:14,810 --> 00:07:19,610 ♪♪ 130 00:07:19,610 --> 00:07:21,820 I grew up in the days when women -- 131 00:07:21,820 --> 00:07:25,440 you were mentally kind of cast is not as bright as men 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,280 and not as capable of learning. 133 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,580 The assumption at the time was that men would go on 134 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:38,710 and have careers, and women would maybe have a job, 135 00:07:38,710 --> 00:07:41,670 but then get married and have children. 136 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:45,880 [Katharine] You were expected to have a family, run the houses, 137 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,600 and if you had spare time, do good works. 138 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,390 My father and I were growing closer 139 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:55,480 while my mother and I were growing apart. 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,140 Though he lacked the gift of intimacy, 141 00:07:58,140 --> 00:08:02,480 in many ways, his supportive love still came through to me. 142 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,360 He was the present parent, oddly enough. 143 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,700 My mother was very sort of self-absorbed. 144 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:13,120 She said, "I was a dutiful but hardly a loving mother." 145 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,660 She thought that it was her duty 146 00:08:15,660 --> 00:08:17,000 to have us well brought up, 147 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 the right nurses and governesses, 148 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,330 the right schools. 149 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:22,210 But she didn't have to be there, 150 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:24,750 and nor did she have to particularly have 151 00:08:24,750 --> 00:08:26,920 a physical affection for us. 152 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,430 ♪♪ 153 00:08:32,430 --> 00:08:35,890 My mother's effect on us was often contradictory. 154 00:08:35,890 --> 00:08:38,770 She set impossibly high standards for us, 155 00:08:38,770 --> 00:08:40,650 creating tremendous pressures 156 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:43,020 and undermining our ability to accomplish 157 00:08:43,020 --> 00:08:47,240 whatever modest aims we may have set for ourselves. 158 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,360 If I said I loved The Three Musketeers, 159 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,660 she responded by saying I couldn't really 160 00:08:52,660 --> 00:08:55,160 appreciate it unless I'd read the original three volumes 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,000 in French as she had. 162 00:09:00,370 --> 00:09:02,120 [Murrow] This has been the Washington home 163 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,670 of Mr. and Mrs. Meyer for 26 years. 164 00:09:04,670 --> 00:09:07,050 It's about 2 miles from the White House. 165 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:08,840 Good evening, Mrs. Meyer. 166 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,260 Good evening, Edward. 167 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:12,590 [Katharine] My mother was very strong. 168 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:15,300 She was extraordinary. She was brilliant. 169 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:17,430 She wrote very well. 170 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:20,980 And then she became very interested in the latter part 171 00:09:20,980 --> 00:09:25,560 of her life, in social and welfare and education issues. 172 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:27,190 You're one of the busiest people I know. 173 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:29,900 What's the latest project, Mrs. Meyer? 174 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:32,610 Oh, uh, next week, 175 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:36,530 many of us are trying to get the White House conference 176 00:09:36,530 --> 00:09:39,910 on education to decide that we need federal aid 177 00:09:39,910 --> 00:09:41,080 for school construction, Edward. 178 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,040 But that's going to be a battle. 179 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,380 Ah, I know it is. 180 00:09:44,380 --> 00:09:46,460 Where is Mr. Meyer? 181 00:09:46,460 --> 00:09:48,340 I'll bet he's in the library as usual, isn't he? 182 00:09:48,340 --> 00:09:51,920 Yes. He's waiting in the library for us. 183 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,760 [Katharine] And she especially, I guess, 184 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,550 propagated these myths about what Meyer girls 185 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:58,720 were supposed to be. 186 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,100 And that we were supposed to be funny and eccentric 187 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:01,730 and, you know, popular 188 00:10:01,730 --> 00:10:03,850 and all these things that I knew I wasn't. 189 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,860 Mr. Meyer, I've heard it said that all of Congress 190 00:10:08,860 --> 00:10:10,900 has The Washington Post for breakfast, 191 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:14,820 making it the most influential newspaper in town. 192 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:17,830 Well, my satisfaction as a newspaper man 193 00:10:17,830 --> 00:10:23,000 is that the purpose I had in buying it 194 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,340 seems to be in process of being fulfilled 195 00:10:28,340 --> 00:10:31,170 under the management of my son-in-law 196 00:10:31,170 --> 00:10:33,050 as publisher of the paper. 197 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,930 [Katharine] We were married when I was not yet 23 198 00:10:37,930 --> 00:10:41,140 and he was almost 25. 199 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:44,180 Everybody who knew him really was captivated by him. 200 00:10:44,180 --> 00:10:47,980 He was so entertaining. He was so interesting. 201 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:52,480 And really, people sometimes met him for 10 minutes 202 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,070 and succumbed to his charm. 203 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:58,410 [Don] Phil Graham was just a magnificent man. 204 00:10:58,410 --> 00:11:02,240 He was deeply sympathetic with whoever he was talking to, 205 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,170 had a quick, emotional understanding of his audience. 206 00:11:06,170 --> 00:11:08,790 My father was fantastic. He was charming. 207 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:12,130 He was funny. He was tremendously charismatic. 208 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:14,380 All my friends loved him. 209 00:11:14,380 --> 00:11:16,800 He really lit up a room. 210 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,100 "Incandescent" is just the right word. 211 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:22,020 [Katharine] My father loved Phil. 212 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:24,560 It was very, very wonderful relationship. 213 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:27,690 And so he persuaded Phil to come to The Post. 214 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:34,150 He wanted to make sure that, um, he had a successor in place. 215 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:37,400 And so my father named Phil publisher. 216 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,370 He became publisher when he was not quite 31. 217 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:44,370 [Don] My grandfather, Eugene Meyer, 218 00:11:44,370 --> 00:11:46,000 asked my dad to become publisher of The Post 219 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,710 and said if he wouldn't do that, 220 00:11:47,710 --> 00:11:49,540 he thought he would have to sell the paper 221 00:11:49,540 --> 00:11:53,000 because his one son didn't want to run The Post 222 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,630 and he didn't think about his daughters. 223 00:11:55,630 --> 00:11:57,630 [Katharine] I owned one third and he owned two thirds 224 00:11:57,630 --> 00:11:59,510 of the controlling shares. 225 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:02,390 My father had arranged this because he said to me 226 00:12:02,390 --> 00:12:05,430 that no man should work for his wife. 227 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:12,770 Phil had run it very, very well and made the paper much better. 228 00:12:12,770 --> 00:12:16,900 Newsweek was for sale and Phil had bought it. 229 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:20,570 He was tall, he was handsome, he was charismatic, 230 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:23,830 and he was just a wonderful publisher of the paper. 231 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,620 [Katharine] Phil and I had a very happy time. 232 00:12:29,620 --> 00:12:33,420 I grew up considerably in those years, mostly thanks to him. 233 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:38,340 But always it was he who decided, and I responded. 234 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:41,390 Yet, though I was thoroughly fascinated and charmed by Phil, 235 00:12:41,390 --> 00:12:44,220 I was also slightly resentful when I thought about it 236 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:46,350 and feeling such complete dependence 237 00:12:46,350 --> 00:12:49,560 on another individual, I seemed, perversely, 238 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,650 to enjoy the role of doormat wife. 239 00:12:53,610 --> 00:12:55,320 [Weymouth] He mingled with everybody, 240 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,440 all the senators, all the congressmen. 241 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,610 They came over to our house. It was fun. 242 00:13:00,610 --> 00:13:02,700 In those days, Washington was much more casual. 243 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:04,370 People would come over to the house. 244 00:13:04,370 --> 00:13:06,450 There was no Secret Service hovering around. 245 00:13:06,450 --> 00:13:08,120 So even as kids, it was fun. 246 00:13:10,580 --> 00:13:12,880 [Katharine] I feel very privileged to have known 247 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,460 Presidents Kennedy and Johnson before they were president. 248 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:21,470 Kennedy. He was really charming. 249 00:13:21,470 --> 00:13:23,930 He teased. He was interested in you. 250 00:13:23,930 --> 00:13:27,890 He concentrated on whoever it was he was talking to. 251 00:13:27,890 --> 00:13:30,020 And it was the first time 252 00:13:30,020 --> 00:13:34,190 we had known a president who was our age. 253 00:13:34,190 --> 00:13:36,780 Of course, Phil was related to them somewhat differently 254 00:13:36,780 --> 00:13:39,690 because he got involved in politics with them. 255 00:13:39,690 --> 00:13:46,080 In 1957, he had become involved 256 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,790 with the then majority leader, 257 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:55,000 Lyndon Johnson, in passing the 1957 civil rights law. 258 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,840 He had become involved 259 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,130 in the desegregation of the Little Rock school, 260 00:14:01,130 --> 00:14:03,840 and he wanted to prevent Eisenhower sending 261 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,930 the troops in there. 262 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:09,140 And when it failed, 263 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:12,140 I think it threw him into his first depression. 264 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,020 He was subject to manic-depressive illness 265 00:14:18,020 --> 00:14:22,700 before lithium was being used. 266 00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:26,240 So he essentially suffered from untreated manic depression. 267 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,500 I thought that Phil literally created me. 268 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:34,580 I mean, I'd grown so under him. 269 00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:38,920 My interests were better. I was sure of myself. 270 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,630 But there was just this subtle thing that at the same time 271 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:45,050 he was building me up, in a way, 272 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:48,510 he too, was undermining my self-confidence. 273 00:14:48,510 --> 00:14:52,220 If I went on too long about a story, he'd sort of look at me. 274 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,980 And it was that kind of thing that really made me think, 275 00:14:57,980 --> 00:15:00,520 "Gee, I must be boring." 276 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,360 And I guess led to my silence. 277 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,780 Then you found out he was having an affair? 278 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:09,030 Yes. That was the last year. 279 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:10,240 In 1963. 280 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,080 Yes. 281 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,580 He was on the phone with this young woman, and I had no idea. 282 00:15:17,580 --> 00:15:19,040 I guess I must have been dense, 283 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,840 but anyway, I didn't. 284 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,510 And I went in and said, "Is this true?" 285 00:15:23,510 --> 00:15:25,380 And he said, "Yes," 286 00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:28,510 and he said everything that was the matter with him 287 00:15:28,510 --> 00:15:31,180 was my fault and that he wanted a divorce. 288 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:36,480 [Remnick] He'd become so erratic that, at one point, 289 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,070 I believe President Kennedy had to send a government plane 290 00:15:41,070 --> 00:15:43,900 out west to retrieve Phil Graham, 291 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:47,160 who was misbehaving in some way, to bring him back to Washington. 292 00:15:49,410 --> 00:15:53,500 [Katharine] I'd been married to Phil Graham for 23 years. 293 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,870 I was trying to keep the children's lives as normal 294 00:15:55,870 --> 00:15:59,540 as possible and the outside world unsuspecting. 295 00:15:59,540 --> 00:16:01,590 As a result of all this, 296 00:16:01,590 --> 00:16:05,420 I came close to the breaking point myself. 297 00:16:05,420 --> 00:16:07,340 He said he was going to go off with this young woman, 298 00:16:07,340 --> 00:16:10,300 and he was going to take the paper with him. 299 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:14,640 But I cared so much about the paper and the company 300 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,600 that I couldn't deal with that. 301 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,690 And I was going to dig in at that point 302 00:16:18,690 --> 00:16:21,440 and that I was going to fight. 303 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,480 Phil Graham comes home 304 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,240 after being in an institution. 305 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,110 He'd only been there six weeks, 306 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:29,780 but he -- he seemed very, very much better. 307 00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:35,580 And he got a day off from the -- from the mental hospital. 308 00:16:35,580 --> 00:16:38,160 And he said he wanted to go to our farm. 309 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,380 And I thought -- I was worried about it, 310 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:44,210 but the -- the doctors all had a fight about 311 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:46,590 whether he -- he should go or not, 312 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:50,380 but he was very manipulative and he got them to let him go. 313 00:16:50,380 --> 00:16:54,260 And he deceived me into thinking he was better than he was. 314 00:16:54,260 --> 00:16:57,770 And he went down there and he killed himself. 315 00:16:57,770 --> 00:16:58,850 And you found him? 316 00:16:58,850 --> 00:17:02,230 Yes. 317 00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:04,320 [Don] She was taking a nap, 318 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,940 and my dad took out a shotgun and went in 319 00:17:06,940 --> 00:17:10,490 and -- and shot himself. 320 00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:14,530 And it was awful for all four of us, each in our own way. 321 00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:16,370 I was 18, 322 00:17:16,370 --> 00:17:20,080 I was between my first and second years in college. 323 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,380 And, uh, there's an awful lot of people in the -- 324 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:26,800 in the world who live with the suicide in the family 325 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,010 and -- and, uh, it -- you think about it 326 00:17:31,010 --> 00:17:32,430 for the rest of your life. 327 00:17:32,430 --> 00:17:42,190 ♪♪ 328 00:17:42,190 --> 00:17:47,980 When my dad died, she had to decide, 329 00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:50,940 "Am I going to sell the company?" 330 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:54,120 Which I think most people would have expected her to do. 331 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:58,500 "Or will I somehow try to run it myself?" 332 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:01,250 Although no woman was running a business of that size, 333 00:18:01,250 --> 00:18:03,710 I think, in the United States. 334 00:18:03,710 --> 00:18:06,210 [Harris] She decided to run it herself, 335 00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:07,750 and it's prospered. 336 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:11,300 I wondered how this decision to return tycoon 337 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:14,590 had affected her as the mother of four children. 338 00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:19,470 Uh, I think that it's the problems of any working mother. 339 00:18:19,470 --> 00:18:25,730 Uh, there's always a tear between home and -- and job. 340 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:28,860 Um, the boys were very understanding 341 00:18:28,860 --> 00:18:30,650 and -- and very good about this, 342 00:18:30,650 --> 00:18:32,570 and it seems to me they've survived quite well. 343 00:18:32,570 --> 00:18:33,660 And so have I. 344 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:42,750 I was determined to keep the paper. 345 00:18:42,750 --> 00:18:45,880 I viewed it as a sort of holding place 346 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,800 until my son grew up. 347 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,470 Katharine Graham suddenly becomes the publisher. 348 00:18:53,470 --> 00:18:56,510 Her entire board are White men. 349 00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:58,760 Just a giant circle of White men, 350 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,730 all of whom have a kind of condescending, 351 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:06,520 wary attitude toward her. 352 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,020 She just had nobody on her side, 353 00:19:09,020 --> 00:19:13,570 and everybody that was talking to her had an angle. 354 00:19:13,570 --> 00:19:15,700 [Weymouth] She had no idea how to write a speech, 355 00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:19,120 and she was tremendously nervous about it. 356 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,870 She was rehearsing over and over and over again. 357 00:19:21,870 --> 00:19:24,410 She said, "There are going to be a lot of rumors around 358 00:19:24,410 --> 00:19:26,250 about this company being for sale, 359 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:29,460 and I want to assure you all that it is not for sale 360 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:31,590 and no part of it is for sale. 361 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:33,470 This is a family company 362 00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:36,930 and there's another generation coming along." 363 00:19:36,930 --> 00:19:39,050 [Katharine] It was really hard 364 00:19:39,050 --> 00:19:42,220 because I didn't know anything about being in business. 365 00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:44,600 I didn't know anything about management. 366 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,060 I didn't know anything about complicated editorial issues. 367 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:53,280 I didn't know how to use a secretary. 368 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,160 [Don] She was...beyond... unsure of herself. 369 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,910 She was as self-doubting as any human being has ever been. 370 00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:03,410 [Weymouth] It was daunting to her, 371 00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:06,410 and she would rehearse her Christmas speeches 372 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:08,080 in our bedrooms like, you know, 373 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,750 "Welcome to the Christmas party. 374 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:13,210 You know, I'm so happy that you're here." 375 00:20:13,210 --> 00:20:16,260 I remained totally silent for about a year, 376 00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:19,800 and it took a great deal of courage the first time 377 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,640 I asked a question at an editorial lunch. 378 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,890 I was so scared. 379 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:34,530 ♪♪ 380 00:20:34,530 --> 00:20:39,570 At a little past one, Kay Graham came for me 381 00:20:39,570 --> 00:20:41,030 and we went down to the park 382 00:20:41,030 --> 00:20:43,410 right off of Constitution Avenue 383 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:45,330 to open the art fair, 384 00:20:45,330 --> 00:20:49,370 which is being sponsored by The Washington Post. 385 00:20:49,370 --> 00:20:51,920 Kay made a really excellent little speech, 386 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,340 shaking all the while, 387 00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:57,090 surprising that a woman of her poise and accomplishments 388 00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:59,800 should be really frightened. 389 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,340 How well Kay Graham is taking over 390 00:21:02,340 --> 00:21:04,390 after the tragic death of Phil. 391 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:07,930 I think she's pushed herself into being a really live part 392 00:21:07,930 --> 00:21:10,520 of a business empire, and in doing so, 393 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 as having a more interesting life. 394 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,690 She is an appealing woman. 395 00:21:17,690 --> 00:21:19,820 But unfortunately, when you know and like somebody, 396 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:21,740 it makes it all the more painful 397 00:21:21,740 --> 00:21:26,490 when that paper takes you apart unfairly. 398 00:21:26,490 --> 00:21:27,790 [Man] I think we're gonna have to work 399 00:21:27,790 --> 00:21:29,750 on Mrs. Graham. 400 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:31,710 [Pres. Johnson] Mrs. Graham, she claims 401 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:34,630 she's the best friend I got, and they murder me every day. 402 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:39,470 Johnson, to my mind, was tough and bullied and bargained, 403 00:21:39,470 --> 00:21:41,010 but he was terribly able. 404 00:21:43,550 --> 00:21:46,310 [Warren] With Johnson, he knew how to press her buttons, 405 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:50,480 but The Post really was independent. 406 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,140 [Pres. Johnson] Hello. [Katharine] Hello, Mr. President. 407 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:53,230 Hello, my sweetheart. How are you? 408 00:21:53,230 --> 00:21:54,860 Well, I'm fine. Are you? 409 00:21:54,860 --> 00:21:58,280 You know, only one thing I dislike about this job 410 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,570 is that I'm married 411 00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:03,110 and I can't ever get to see you. 412 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:04,870 I just hear that sweet voice, 413 00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:06,990 and, uh, that's always on the telephone. 414 00:22:06,990 --> 00:22:09,080 And I'd like to break out of here and be 415 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,080 like one of these young animals down on my ranch. 416 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,000 Jump a fence. 417 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,250 [ Laughing ] 418 00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:17,250 That's gonna set me up for the month. 419 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:20,550 [Warren] He would clearly try and romance her, 420 00:22:20,550 --> 00:22:23,090 but she was very, very smart 421 00:22:23,090 --> 00:22:27,510 and she read people well. 422 00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:29,770 [Pres. Johnson] When Phil was here, 423 00:22:29,770 --> 00:22:32,810 he'd sit down and write in longhand in 30 minutes 424 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:35,270 what we're going to do, and if you just go up to heaven, 425 00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:37,230 get him, bring him back where he can sit in 426 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,110 and advise with me awhile. 427 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:41,940 [Katharine] You can be friends with people in the government, 428 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:46,030 but they remember and you remember, the paper comes first. 429 00:22:48,620 --> 00:22:51,910 Has that choice that you made in 1963 430 00:22:51,910 --> 00:22:54,580 to go into the business and run it 431 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:57,790 had any effect on you personally, 432 00:22:57,790 --> 00:23:00,050 on your personality? 433 00:23:00,050 --> 00:23:04,970 Oh, very much. It's extraordinary how, to me, 434 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:09,720 how what you do all day alters what you are. 435 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,180 Uh, in a sense, this is what women's liberation, 436 00:23:13,180 --> 00:23:14,730 which a lot of people laugh about, 437 00:23:14,730 --> 00:23:16,650 are talking about a lot over here, 438 00:23:16,650 --> 00:23:19,730 but I think they've got a very important point, 439 00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:23,440 which is changes of attitudes toward women working. 440 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,120 [Steinem] When I first met Kay, 441 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,580 I was surprised by how shy she was. 442 00:23:31,580 --> 00:23:36,500 People might have been surprised that she and I were friends 443 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:40,540 because she came from a very powerful family. 444 00:23:40,540 --> 00:23:44,720 I had come from a kind of a working-class neighborhood 445 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,550 in Toledo, but I think a lot of us 446 00:23:48,550 --> 00:23:52,390 who were her friends came to understand 447 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:57,600 that Kay was a way more universal person, 448 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,400 but it always seemed to me she suffered from the idea 449 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,440 that women supported men who acted, 450 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,030 but women did not act on their own, 451 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:12,080 and that that was an idea of her own mother 452 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,120 in addition to the world. 453 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,040 [Katharine] There are situations 454 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,040 when you're on an equal basis with men 455 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,090 in a committee meeting or something like that, uh, 456 00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:26,590 in which you feel they don't have much regard for your view. 457 00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:29,720 I've also become aware in the last two or three years 458 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,140 that a lot of men really don't like working for a woman. 459 00:24:36,730 --> 00:24:39,600 Almost no man knew anyone 460 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,520 who worked for a woman as their boss. 461 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,990 And if men had any insecurities, this situation brought them out. 462 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:51,530 [Katharine] For 10 years, 463 00:24:51,530 --> 00:24:53,280 I learned about management at The Post, 464 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,160 and I went up to Newsweek, 465 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,410 and I just kept trying to learn the issues from the men 466 00:24:57,410 --> 00:24:59,160 who were running things. 467 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,790 And of course, they were all men. 468 00:25:02,790 --> 00:25:05,920 [Don] She thought The Post needs to be better, 469 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,550 and she wanted someone at a different phase of their career, 470 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:11,590 somebody who was full of energy, 471 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:13,260 somebody who wanted to be there all the time, 472 00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:16,100 somebody who would get the place moving. 473 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,600 And Ben Bradlee was 474 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,730 the Washington bureau chief at Newsweek. 475 00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:21,980 My mother told me 476 00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:24,520 that she was thinking of making him the editor of The Post. 477 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,860 I knew what a crucial choice this was 478 00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:32,360 for The Post and for her. 479 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,240 [Katharine] I asked him, "What are your interests?" 480 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,410 And Ben -- Ben said, "Well, now that you asked me, 481 00:25:38,410 --> 00:25:40,040 he said, "I'd give my left one 482 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,460 to be managing editor of The Post." 483 00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:46,380 Within days she was telling me, 484 00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:48,670 "I know this guy's gonna be great." 485 00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:53,050 She was very quick to figure out who he was, 486 00:25:53,050 --> 00:25:57,390 and he was very quick to figure out who she was. 487 00:25:57,390 --> 00:25:59,680 [Katharine] We had a very, very small staff, 488 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,480 and we built up both the size and the quality of the staff 489 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,070 under Ben Bradlee. 490 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:08,400 [Bernstein] I think that Ben's recognition 491 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,360 of what Katharine had been through with Phil Graham 492 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,280 was profound, 493 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:21,000 and he probably got as good or better look 494 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:27,540 at her transition into being a publisher 495 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:30,010 and a world figure. 496 00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:36,850 [Katharine] I'm the president of The Washington Post Company, 497 00:26:36,850 --> 00:26:38,720 which has three divisions. 498 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,980 It owns The Washington Post paper, 499 00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:46,480 it has a television division with four television stations 500 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,190 and two radio stations, and it owns Newsweek magazine. 501 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,950 [Povich] In November of '66, I started at Newsweek. 502 00:27:00,950 --> 00:27:02,790 If you were coming into Newsweek as a woman, 503 00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:05,380 you were actually first put on the mail desk 504 00:27:05,380 --> 00:27:08,670 where you delivered mail to all of the writers. 505 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:12,380 And then you were moved up to researcher, 506 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:14,630 which is essentially a fact checker. 507 00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:21,930 [Steinem] That was a hard and fast rule. 508 00:27:21,930 --> 00:27:27,730 Even on Newsweek, even though it was owned by Kay. 509 00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,400 [Quarles] Today, most women 510 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,280 are still at the same tedious jobs, 511 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,030 and they earn only half of what men earn. 512 00:27:35,030 --> 00:27:38,200 [Povich] It's illegal to segregate jobs by gender. 513 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,290 The 1964 Civil Rights Act outlawed that. 514 00:27:42,290 --> 00:27:47,960 This was 1969, and that's when we began to organize. 515 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:54,470 And so I, as a young reporter in the Life and Leisure section, 516 00:27:54,470 --> 00:28:00,560 started covering stories about the women's movement. 517 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,890 Newsweek decided it was going to do a cover story 518 00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:04,600 on the women's movement, 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,850 and that really galvanized the women 520 00:28:06,850 --> 00:28:09,060 to actually file our complaint with the EEOC 521 00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:11,070 and to publicly announce it the day 522 00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:12,820 that Newsweek appeared on its stands 523 00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:16,110 with a cover story called "Women in Revolt." 524 00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:20,030 And we wanted to let Katharine Graham know 525 00:28:20,030 --> 00:28:22,580 that we were filing this suit. 526 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:26,830 We felt that since she was the woman owner of Newsweek, 527 00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:29,040 that we should give her a heads-up 528 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,580 that we were filing this suit. 529 00:28:30,580 --> 00:28:33,920 She should not find it out on the news. 530 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,550 I'm sure it was hard on Kay, 531 00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:37,840 because, after all, she was the owner. 532 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,720 And yet her heart and sympathies 533 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,100 were probably with the women who were striking against her. 534 00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,230 They told her that the women had filed this complaint, 535 00:28:47,230 --> 00:28:52,980 and she said, "Which side am I supposed to be on?" 536 00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:58,490 You know, she already had a sense of being a woman herself 537 00:28:58,490 --> 00:29:01,280 in a profession where she was not taken seriously. 538 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,540 She was not respected, 539 00:29:03,540 --> 00:29:09,370 and yet her company was also being sued essentially 540 00:29:09,370 --> 00:29:11,290 for the same kind of discrimination. 541 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,800 [Steinem] In the end, women became able 542 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,930 not just to research, but also to write. 543 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:25,720 [Katharine] The women's movement occurred in the late '60s. 544 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,480 I'd gone to work in '63, 545 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,350 and so I essentially experienced it 546 00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:33,020 while I was at the top of a company. 547 00:29:33,020 --> 00:29:36,070 You know, she had to go through her own transition. 548 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:38,900 She was also a person of her generation, 549 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:41,950 which is previous to our generation. 550 00:29:41,950 --> 00:29:47,660 And so I think that this period was one of transition for her. 551 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:52,000 I have to confess that I suppose 552 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,840 due to the totally private life I led, uh, 553 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,010 and led with three very strong individuals in the form 554 00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:04,930 of both my parents and then my husband, 555 00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:09,850 who was a very brilliant and very... 556 00:30:09,850 --> 00:30:12,600 predominant figure, 557 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,690 that there really weren't room for any more predominance. 558 00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:19,400 Put it that way. 559 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,570 [Steinem] One of our first meetings came about 560 00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:26,530 because she wanted the editorial board of The Washington Post 561 00:30:26,530 --> 00:30:29,950 to support the Equal Rights Amendment editorially, 562 00:30:29,950 --> 00:30:32,250 and they were not doing so. 563 00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:35,000 She felt she couldn't order them to. 564 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,050 So she asked me to come address an editorial meeting. 565 00:30:40,050 --> 00:30:42,090 I'm not sure I convinced them. 566 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,140 And of course, we still don't have the Equal Rights Amendment. 567 00:30:44,140 --> 00:30:47,640 [Women] Equal pay for equal work. 568 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,310 [Male reporter] These women want equal job opportunities, 569 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:53,980 equal pay with men for the same jobs. 570 00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:55,940 This is where they're at. 571 00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:59,230 A lot of women working, nearly 30 million of them, 572 00:30:59,230 --> 00:31:02,740 but very few in executive positions. 573 00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:05,200 [Steinem] It was part of the women's movement 574 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,000 to help overcome the assigned inferior role 575 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,710 that society has given groups of people. 576 00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:18,960 And Kay, you know, had this doubly in a way, 577 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:25,970 because she had it not only from society but from her own family. 578 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:28,470 [Katharine] The worst handicap women work under 579 00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:31,310 is the self-inflicted one 580 00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:34,270 that if you've grown up thinking of yourself 581 00:31:34,270 --> 00:31:36,650 as a second-class citizen, 582 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:39,480 that you tend always to put yourself down. 583 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,570 ♪♪ 584 00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:47,160 However slow I was to learn, 585 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,870 I finally became increasingly aware and involved. 586 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:53,160 Most important to me was not the central message 587 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,000 of the movement that women were equal, 588 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,540 but that women had a right 589 00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:00,500 to choose which lifestyle suited them. 590 00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,050 We all had a right to a frame of reference. 591 00:32:03,050 --> 00:32:06,380 Other than that, we were put on earth to catch a man, 592 00:32:06,380 --> 00:32:10,350 hold him and please him. 593 00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:13,140 [Remnick] She changed. 594 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:16,350 She did gain a greater sense of who she was 595 00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:19,810 and what she had accomplished. 596 00:32:19,810 --> 00:32:22,190 [Osberg] She didn't want a label of being a feminist, 597 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:26,490 but she was on the forefront of everything. 598 00:32:26,490 --> 00:32:28,410 I can see how the women's movement 599 00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:30,740 brought her into herself. 600 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:32,700 I mean, it's what she lived through. 601 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,830 Only she was way ahead of her time in trying to do it. 602 00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:38,210 [Chanting "Stop the war in Vietnam"] 603 00:32:38,210 --> 00:32:42,130 ♪♪ 604 00:32:42,130 --> 00:32:47,180 [Steinem] The country was going through a major sea change 605 00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:53,640 because it was engaged in a war in Vietnam, 606 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,940 which was not supported by the majority of Americans. 607 00:32:59,350 --> 00:33:05,820 The Nixon administration was very clearly on the wrong side, 608 00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:09,030 and that made a very thorny set 609 00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:13,080 of reporting circumstances for Kay and The Washington Post. 610 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,540 [Don] A reporter on The Times had received a copy 611 00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:20,620 of what is now called the Pentagon Papers 612 00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:23,250 from Daniel Ellsberg, 613 00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:26,840 a historian who had been working in the Pentagon 614 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,630 undertaking a history of how the United States 615 00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:32,010 got into the war in Vietnam. 616 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:33,640 [Secretary] General Haig, sir. Ready. 617 00:33:54,030 --> 00:33:56,740 The Justice Department went to court in New York today 618 00:33:56,740 --> 00:33:59,370 and got a temporary order restraining The Times 619 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:03,250 from publishing the next and last two installments. 620 00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:05,340 [Don] The federal government had never gotten 621 00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:08,510 a newspaper to stop printing a story. 622 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:14,470 Ellsberg called an editor on The Washington Post, 623 00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:18,310 whom he knew, eager to see the rest of the story printed. 624 00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:38,120 [Kaiser] It comes at this absolutely critical moment, 625 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,210 because Katharine Graham is taking 626 00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:44,670 The Washington Post public at precisely this moment. 627 00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:46,420 Everybody's terrified 628 00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:52,300 that Nixon is going to somehow screw this up. 629 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,800 So Kay had to make this decision on 630 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,140 whether to print the Pentagon Papers. 631 00:34:57,140 --> 00:35:00,720 The government had made it stand clear that, "No, 632 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,140 you shouldn't print it. 633 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:04,560 It's classified. It's top secret." 634 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,560 Kay received a message saying, 635 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,280 "We want you to know that a company convicted of a felony, 636 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,610 for example, violating the Espionage Act, 637 00:35:14,610 --> 00:35:17,450 cannot own television stations." 638 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:37,600 The message really threatened us with criminal prosecution. 639 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:43,940 And it went on to point out that papers with, um, criminal, 640 00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:45,980 um, decisions against them 641 00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:50,570 obviously could not own television stations. 642 00:35:50,570 --> 00:35:53,650 [Weymouth] Our TV stations provided the revenue 643 00:35:53,650 --> 00:35:55,820 to prop up The Washington Post, 644 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,700 which was not a money earner in those days. 645 00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:01,080 And so the businessmen were saying, you know, 646 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,790 "Think twice about this." 647 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:04,330 She knew that her lawyers were saying, 648 00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:06,460 "Do not print these stories. 649 00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:08,630 It's going to put the paper in grave danger." 650 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:11,880 And Kay came to the understanding 651 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,760 that she would have to make the decision. 652 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,350 [Katharine] The editors were all on the phone pleading to go ahead. 653 00:36:19,350 --> 00:36:22,100 And I thought that we could risk it, 654 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,980 although it was really dangerous. 655 00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:26,690 She trusted Ben, 656 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:30,230 and ultimately she preferred his judgment, 657 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:33,400 which was that it was crucial to the future of The Post 658 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,900 to get the story in the paper that day. 659 00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:37,950 No delay. Right then. 660 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,910 [Katharine] And so I said, "Let's go. Let's publish." 661 00:36:42,910 --> 00:36:44,910 And I hung up because I was so freaked out 662 00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:48,250 by having had to make that decision so fast. 663 00:36:48,250 --> 00:36:50,420 [Don] And off they went, 664 00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:52,670 and they printed the story in the paper the next day. 665 00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:54,510 Well, this morning The Washington Post moved 666 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:57,090 into the breach and began publishing 667 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:58,590 other parts of those same Pentagon Papers. 668 00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:00,430 Here in Washington, 669 00:37:00,430 --> 00:37:02,350 the Justice Department went to court 670 00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:05,810 to try to stop The Post from continuing to publish them. 671 00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:08,640 We didn't publish those papers for two weeks 672 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,820 while we were going through the courts. 673 00:37:11,820 --> 00:37:13,650 The Supreme Court said no to the government 674 00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:15,320 and yes to the newspaper, 675 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,360 voting 6-3 to let The New York Times 676 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,490 and The Washington Post print the rest of the Pentagon Papers. 677 00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:25,240 We are extremely gratified, 678 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,370 not only from the point of newspapers, 679 00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:32,040 which is not the least of our concerns, 680 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,800 but gratified from the point of view of the public 681 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,880 and the public's right to know, 682 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,430 which is what we were concerned with. 683 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:10,330 ♪♪ 684 00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:11,880 [Cohen] Publishing the Pentagon Papers meant 685 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,500 that this was a dangerous newspaper now. 686 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,130 Dangerous if you were a lying politician. 687 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:19,920 Dangerous if you were a corrupt person. 688 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,800 This put us in the same situation as The New York Times. 689 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,560 And people began to say The New York Times 690 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,730 and The Washington Post for the first time. 691 00:38:29,730 --> 00:38:31,350 Two major-league papers. Yes. 692 00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:34,230 It forged a confidence in the paper 693 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:36,780 that we had amongst ourselves, 694 00:38:36,780 --> 00:38:40,490 a great sense that we had in Katharine Graham somewhat, 695 00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:46,330 who would be on the ramparts with us under any conditions. 696 00:38:46,330 --> 00:38:48,080 [Warren] The right person controlled 697 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,870 The Washington Post Company at that time. 698 00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:56,380 There were very few people who would have behaved as she did. 699 00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:02,930 [Katharine] It prepared us for Watergate, 700 00:39:02,930 --> 00:39:04,510 for the tough decisions 701 00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:06,390 and the difficulties with the government 702 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:09,100 that we would have to make in the Watergate reporting. 703 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:21,280 ♪♪ 704 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,660 It was sort of a farce. 705 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,160 Five men discovered in the Watergate 706 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,950 with surgical gloves on, breaking into something. 707 00:39:29,950 --> 00:39:31,910 You couldn't tell why or what. 708 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,340 [Woodward] The judge asked the lead burglar, James McCord, 709 00:39:39,340 --> 00:39:40,920 "Where did you work?" 710 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,260 And McCord said, "CIA." 711 00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:49,930 And in the front row, I kind of blurted out, 712 00:39:49,930 --> 00:39:52,770 hopefully under my breath, "Holy shit." 713 00:39:52,770 --> 00:39:55,400 Mr. McCoy's been released on bail. 714 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,400 [Female reporter] Why weren't the others? 715 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,110 [Woodward] James McCord had been head of security for the CIA 716 00:40:02,110 --> 00:40:07,120 and was head of security for the Nixon reelection committee. 717 00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:15,660 The next day, Woodward and I were told 718 00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:22,260 to come in to the office and continue work on the story. 719 00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:25,800 [Don] They're finding little bits of additional information 720 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,010 and sometimes big bits of additional information 721 00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:33,480 that are driving the story in a very uncomfortable direction. 722 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,130 [Katharine] In no time, it became our story. 723 00:41:01,130 --> 00:41:03,090 And of course, 724 00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:05,220 the administration's reactions to it grew, 725 00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:07,510 and they became very intense. 726 00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:12,680 [Pres. Nixon] Alright. 727 00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:38,870 ♪♪ 728 00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:44,170 [Katharine] We ran these stories and nobody picked them up. 729 00:41:44,170 --> 00:41:47,920 They go out on the wire and nobody would run them. 730 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,760 Other papers didn't believe us. 731 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,260 [whistle blows] 732 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,940 Usually somebody does a big story, it goes everywhere. 733 00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:47,110 And, um, it wasn't going everywhere. 734 00:42:47,110 --> 00:42:51,030 It really was The Washington Post versus Richard Nixon. 735 00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:53,910 The Nixon people wanted it to be seen 736 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:55,450 as a Washington Post story. 737 00:42:55,450 --> 00:42:58,290 As long as it was a Washington Post story, 738 00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:00,250 it was containable. 739 00:43:00,250 --> 00:43:02,080 [Weymouth] No one's picking up the story, 740 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,000 and so she was really worried. 741 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,630 And she's like, "If it's such a great story, 742 00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:09,050 where is everybody on this great story?" 743 00:43:09,050 --> 00:43:10,800 [Cohen] We all had doubts. 744 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,220 Katharine did, and it was being mocked. 745 00:43:15,220 --> 00:43:18,350 [Katharine] People who were essentially friends said, 746 00:43:18,350 --> 00:43:20,600 you know, "Are you sure you know what you're doing? 747 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400 Are you crazy?" 748 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,440 [Hoagland] I was dealing with ambassadors, 749 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,060 with American diplomats. 750 00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:29,230 There was a general sense 751 00:43:29,230 --> 00:43:31,530 Washington Post is giving the president a hard time. 752 00:43:31,530 --> 00:43:33,070 "Why are you guys doing that?" 753 00:43:33,070 --> 00:43:36,120 [Katharine] Readers, too, were writing me, 754 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,620 accusing The Post of ulterior motives, 755 00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:42,540 bad journalism, lack of patriotism. 756 00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:46,290 As an anonymous White House aide told Time magazine, 757 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:50,210 "To screw The Washington Post." 758 00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:52,420 [Warren] At The Washington Post, 759 00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:55,180 they had editorial lunches. 760 00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:59,060 Clare Boothe Luce was invited. 761 00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:02,060 Henry Luce started Time magazine. 762 00:44:02,060 --> 00:44:06,020 Her husband had died in 1967. 763 00:44:06,020 --> 00:44:09,320 Henry Luce, who everybody called Harry, 764 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,780 probably had more influence on the American public 765 00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:15,360 than anybody except the president of the United States. 766 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,240 And Clare was a very, very strong personality. 767 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:23,700 And she became a very, very, very staunch Republican. 768 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:28,880 So anyway, Clare starts really attacking the newsroom. 769 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,210 And at one point, Clare says, 770 00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:39,050 "Last night in a dream I had, Harry came to me. 771 00:44:39,050 --> 00:44:45,640 And Harry said to me that what The Washington Post is doing 772 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,810 is going to destroy democracy. 773 00:44:48,810 --> 00:44:52,280 And at that point, Kay Graham, who was 774 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,150 sitting across and never said anything, 775 00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:56,700 immediately replied 776 00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:00,570 in that incredibly upper-class diction of hers, 777 00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:04,120 "Well, Clare, that is really strange. 778 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,210 Because last night, Phil came to me in a dream 779 00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:10,630 and he said Harry was full of shit." 780 00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:11,750 [laughs] 781 00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:20,430 [Katharine] I really hate fights and I hate this kind of scene, 782 00:45:20,430 --> 00:45:25,270 but when cornered, then I can fight. 783 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:28,730 She learned how to intimidate the hell 784 00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:30,480 out of everybody she met. 785 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,480 [Katharine] I obviously grew on the job. 786 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,190 You have to. 787 00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:36,530 I was very anxious, 788 00:45:36,530 --> 00:45:38,950 but I also didn't think we had any choice except to proceed. 789 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:42,410 ♪♪ 790 00:45:42,410 --> 00:45:44,950 [Bernstein] There is an incrementalism 791 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:47,460 to the coverage of the story. 792 00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:52,040 We found out about the secret fund, 793 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,550 and we found out that John N. Mitchell, 794 00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:56,670 former Attorney General of the United States, 795 00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:59,340 and Nixon's former law partner 796 00:45:59,340 --> 00:46:01,470 and manager of his campaign, 797 00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:05,430 that he was among those who controlled that fund. 798 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:07,770 There has been no indication or no proof 799 00:46:07,770 --> 00:46:10,440 that any funds have been siphoned off of any 800 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,900 of the committees in connection with the Watergate bugging. 801 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,820 [Bernstein] So I had a phone number for Mitchell, 802 00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:23,280 and I called him and he answered the phone 803 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,620 and I told him why I was calling. 804 00:46:25,620 --> 00:46:28,330 There was a story in the next day's paper. 805 00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:30,120 I started to read it to him 806 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,830 and I got as far as John N. Mitchell, 807 00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:33,420 while Attorney General of the United States, 808 00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:36,170 controlled a secret fund. 809 00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:38,630 And Mitchell said, "Jesus Christ, all that crap 810 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:40,670 you're putting in the paper. 811 00:46:40,670 --> 00:46:42,380 If you print that, Katie Graham is going to get 812 00:46:42,380 --> 00:46:45,600 her tit caught in a big, fat wringer." 813 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,520 And I literally felt a chill, literally. 814 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,480 He hung up the phone. 815 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,900 ♪♪ 816 00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:56,980 [Katharine] Ben told Carl to use it all 817 00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:59,740 except the specific reference to my tit. 818 00:47:03,490 --> 00:47:06,490 There was a concentration on me 819 00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:08,580 as the personification of the paper, 820 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:11,160 because I was a woman in this job, 821 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,880 and therefore this was all my doing. 822 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,130 I mean, that was a loud message. 823 00:47:17,130 --> 00:47:19,420 It's easier to go after the women. 824 00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:20,960 You know, it's just easier. 825 00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,770 I mean, she was the perfect target, too -- 826 00:47:34,770 --> 00:47:38,270 a woman in a man's world. 827 00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:57,580 I think it was hard for men to accept the fact 828 00:47:57,580 --> 00:47:59,460 that women could be more than, 829 00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:02,170 you know, the secretary in the office. 830 00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:04,760 I'm sure Nixon looked at her as, you know, 831 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,470 she came into the job by accident 832 00:48:07,470 --> 00:48:09,680 and was unprepared. 833 00:49:13,790 --> 00:49:16,790 [Katharine] So I think he was a real Jekyll-Hyde character, 834 00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:18,250 because he had all these things 835 00:49:18,250 --> 00:49:20,670 that we keep seeing coming out on the tapes 836 00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:23,420 and this really low-level side to him. 837 00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:31,100 In October, the tempo of the whole story picked up. 838 00:49:35,350 --> 00:49:37,730 I think for the first time, we're starting to see 839 00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:41,520 the general outlines of the whole conspiracy 840 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,400 and the subsequent cover-up. 841 00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:11,510 Watergate required decision making on all kinds of levels, 842 00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:13,220 and that required great collaboration 843 00:50:13,220 --> 00:50:16,060 between Ben and Katharine. 844 00:50:16,060 --> 00:50:18,810 In terms of the pressure 845 00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:23,020 that the publisher was under, it was enormous. 846 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:27,780 I made a lot of speeches defending us during Watergate. 847 00:50:27,780 --> 00:50:30,700 The suggestion has been made that out of some personal 848 00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:33,780 and let me add, non-existent, hatred for the president, 849 00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:35,620 I personally ordered a campaign 850 00:50:35,620 --> 00:50:37,830 against the Nixon administration. 851 00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:39,580 I was trying to explain 852 00:50:39,580 --> 00:50:42,540 that we weren't after the administration. 853 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:45,920 It wasn't our intention to do them in. 854 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,630 This is not a charge we can afford to take lightly, 855 00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:50,590 because it goes straight to the central issue 856 00:50:50,590 --> 00:50:52,720 of fairness and objectivity, 857 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,010 as distinct from bias in the reporting of news. 858 00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:07,900 [Secretary] Mr. President, Mr. Colson. 859 00:51:24,670 --> 00:51:27,670 We knew that Watergate was a big bore 860 00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:30,460 to most American people, and Nixon won in a landslide. 861 00:51:34,220 --> 00:51:35,340 [Katharine] President Nixon was re-elected 862 00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:38,060 with 61% of the vote, 863 00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:40,600 evidence of how little impact Watergate had had. 864 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,560 Nixon immediately turned to vengeance 865 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,070 and to strengthening his hold on power. 866 00:52:03,210 --> 00:52:07,340 Unfairness is often in the eyes of the beholder, 867 00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:10,340 especially when he feels some particular interest of his own 868 00:52:10,340 --> 00:52:12,170 has been adversely affected 869 00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:14,630 by what others would term a neutral news report. 870 00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:16,760 We are in business, after all, of describing people 871 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,850 and their activities and their causes and conflicts. 872 00:52:20,850 --> 00:52:23,230 And it is a simple fact that people do not like 873 00:52:23,230 --> 00:52:25,060 to be described by others. 874 00:52:25,060 --> 00:52:28,060 The first job of journalism, 875 00:52:28,060 --> 00:52:32,530 and this is essential, is to put pressure on power, 876 00:52:32,530 --> 00:52:35,740 pressure on power, investigative pressure, 877 00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:38,030 reporting pressure, 878 00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:41,660 intellectual pressure on the ideas being put out by power. 879 00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:46,000 And if a newspaper or a site that's serious isn't doing that, 880 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,630 they're not doing anything. 881 00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:20,700 [Katharine] The performance of the reporters and editors 882 00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:23,450 on the Watergate story speaks for itself, 883 00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:27,330 and in our judgment, it speaks well for American journalism. 884 00:53:27,330 --> 00:53:29,210 For what it really comes down to, 885 00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:31,420 is nothing less than the state of the First Amendment, 886 00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:34,210 our freedom to gather the news and to publish it, 887 00:53:34,210 --> 00:53:36,130 and your freedom to read it. 888 00:53:36,130 --> 00:53:43,810 ♪♪ 889 00:53:43,810 --> 00:53:46,100 [Pres. Nixon] No reporter from The Washington Post 890 00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:47,560 is ever to be in the White House. 891 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,350 Is that clear? [Ziegler] Absolutely. 892 00:53:49,350 --> 00:53:51,900 No reporter from The Washington Post 893 00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:54,280 is ever to be in the White House again. 894 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,320 And no photographer either. 895 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,240 No photographer. Is that clear? Yes, sir. 896 00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:01,870 None ever to be in. Now, that is a total order. 897 00:54:01,870 --> 00:54:04,700 And if necessary, I'll fire you. 898 00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:06,370 You understand? I do understand. 899 00:54:06,370 --> 00:54:09,830 Okay. 900 00:54:09,830 --> 00:54:12,080 [Katharine] They were really after us. 901 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,460 They were trying to get even, 902 00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:19,050 and they wanted to do as much damage as they could do to us. 903 00:54:19,050 --> 00:54:21,340 The Nixon administration was accused today 904 00:54:21,340 --> 00:54:24,220 of raising the most serious challenge to a free press 905 00:54:24,220 --> 00:54:26,060 in modern history. 906 00:54:26,060 --> 00:54:28,390 Two Florida television stations owned 907 00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:30,230 by The Washington Post Company, 908 00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:32,730 whose newspaper is often critical of the administration, 909 00:54:32,730 --> 00:54:35,440 now are facing license renewal fights. 910 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,400 If people perceive your television licenses, 911 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,700 which are very valuable, as being in danger, 912 00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:44,160 um, your stock falls. 913 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,410 And it did. 914 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:09,560 The idea that we could lose our television licenses 915 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,020 made the stock dive, 916 00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:15,320 and so the company was worth half what it had been 917 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,110 before Watergate started. 918 00:55:17,110 --> 00:55:19,360 [Warren] It really got dumped. 919 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,110 It went from about 38 to, like, 21. 920 00:55:23,110 --> 00:55:26,830 It was cheap at 38, in relation to the real value, 921 00:55:26,830 --> 00:55:28,910 but it got dumped 922 00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:31,830 and it got dumped by big institutional holders. 923 00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:35,340 So in a very short period of time, 924 00:55:35,340 --> 00:55:39,090 we were able to buy a significant amount 925 00:55:39,090 --> 00:55:42,300 of the "B" shares, which had limited voting power. 926 00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:44,430 They did not represent a threat 927 00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:47,260 to the Graham family for control. 928 00:55:47,260 --> 00:55:51,810 [Katharine] He bought into the company and I didn't know him. 929 00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:54,770 I looked him up and I checked him out, 930 00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:59,320 and I was really scared of his buying in 931 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,990 and worried that he wasn't benevolent. 932 00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:07,580 [Warren] She was trying to size me up 933 00:56:07,580 --> 00:56:09,410 and everybody around her told her, 934 00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:12,290 "Watch out for this guy." 935 00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:15,500 [Don] Warren Buffett was not famous in 1973. 936 00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:17,340 There hadn't been much written about him, 937 00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:19,840 and I didn't know what to make of this. 938 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,760 Nobody had ever done such a thing, 939 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:28,010 but my mother had often a great ability 940 00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:32,810 to recognize highly talented people. 941 00:56:32,810 --> 00:56:34,520 [Katharine] A lot of people said, "Stiff-arm him. 942 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,600 He's buying too much stock. 943 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,310 He means you no good." 944 00:56:38,310 --> 00:56:39,770 My native instinct, 945 00:56:39,770 --> 00:56:41,980 and I think I learned it from Phil, actually, 946 00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:46,110 was, "Let's take a look, let's see what he's like." 947 00:56:46,110 --> 00:56:48,620 And so I asked to meet him. 948 00:56:52,830 --> 00:56:54,960 [Susie] She was coming out to California. 949 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,420 We were out there at our house in Laguna Beach. 950 00:56:57,420 --> 00:57:01,630 My dad bought a bathing suit and actually pretended 951 00:57:01,630 --> 00:57:03,960 like he went to the beach, which he didn't really do, 952 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,590 but he wanted to act like he was Mr. California 953 00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:10,510 because she was coming and it was this big deal. 954 00:57:10,510 --> 00:57:15,230 It was like the Queen was arriving, according to my dad. 955 00:57:15,230 --> 00:57:17,230 I said, "Mrs. Graham, you control this company 956 00:57:17,230 --> 00:57:18,440 lock, stock and barrel, 957 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,480 but you're still worried about me." 958 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,150 So I said, "What you're doing is you're looking at me 959 00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:24,650 and you're seeing fangs, and I'm telling you, 960 00:57:24,650 --> 00:57:27,780 these are baby teeth, but they always look like fangs to you. 961 00:57:27,780 --> 00:57:29,620 And there's nothing I can do except take them out. 962 00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:31,160 I'm going to just take them all out." 963 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,080 And I said, "I'll sign an agreement 964 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,750 that I'll never buy another share of stock 965 00:57:34,750 --> 00:57:36,080 of Washington Post unless you give me the okay. 966 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,250 You know, I want you happy with me. 967 00:57:38,250 --> 00:57:40,790 I don't want you nervous about me." 968 00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:44,380 [Katharine] He thinks very creatively about business. 969 00:57:44,380 --> 00:57:47,630 And I thought, "Whoa, this guy's really terrific." 970 00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:53,350 And he taught me so much about business. 971 00:57:53,350 --> 00:57:56,270 I felt very lucky when I realized 972 00:57:56,270 --> 00:58:00,770 that he had just arrived on our doorstep unexpectedly. 973 00:58:00,770 --> 00:58:03,190 [Don] She was beyond lucky. 974 00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:05,240 Thank God our stock got so cheap 975 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,780 that it attracted Warren's attention in 1973, 976 00:58:09,780 --> 00:58:13,410 but it was the greatest thing. 977 00:58:13,410 --> 00:58:15,790 In business, 978 00:58:15,790 --> 00:58:19,080 it was the greatest thing that ever happened to Kay Graham. 979 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,750 [Katharine] So I got to know him better and better. 980 00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:23,250 And finally I invited him on the board. 981 00:58:23,250 --> 00:58:24,880 I saw things you wouldn't think you would see 982 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,170 in corporate America, I'll put it that way. 983 00:58:28,170 --> 00:58:30,720 She was getting a lot of baloney from executives 984 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,600 that were excusing poor performance, 985 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,100 telling her that if she understood more about business 986 00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,180 they were doing the right things. 987 00:58:38,180 --> 00:58:40,770 Everybody worked on her. 988 00:58:40,770 --> 00:58:44,360 They wanted to be close to her and direct her 989 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,990 as much as they could, and they wanted to play on her fears. 990 00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:52,410 He built up her self-confidence 991 00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:54,030 and he told her, "You can do this. 992 00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:56,700 You're smart. You're doing great." 993 00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,250 And she needed to hear that. 994 00:59:01,790 --> 00:59:06,500 He's always been very strongly pro-woman. 995 00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:10,800 You know, he had two sisters, and they're as smart as he is. 996 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,260 And they didn't have the same opportunities. 997 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:16,640 That's how it was when they were younger. 998 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,350 You know, you were just expected to be the housewife 999 00:59:19,350 --> 00:59:24,190 or maybe a teacher or a nurse or a secretary. 1000 00:59:24,190 --> 00:59:27,570 I think my dad learned a lot from my mother. 1001 00:59:27,570 --> 00:59:28,900 I grew up in a house 1002 00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:30,530 where that wasn't the message I got 1003 00:59:30,530 --> 00:59:32,950 as the only girl in the household. 1004 00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:36,120 But, you know, I'm sure Mrs. Graham got that message, 1005 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,450 and -- and I know that my dad would say his sisters 1006 00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:41,750 got the same message. 1007 00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:44,960 So he was very helpful to her in that sense. 1008 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,170 I think she learned just a ton from him. 1009 00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:50,920 [Osberg] I believe from her point of view, 1010 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,340 he literally changed her life. 1011 00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:57,390 She didn't know numbers. She didn't know finance. 1012 00:59:57,390 --> 01:00:01,270 He was her guide and her coach. 1013 01:00:01,270 --> 01:00:02,850 He used to come to board meetings 1014 01:00:02,850 --> 01:00:05,480 with about 20 annual reports, 1015 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,860 and he would take me through these annual reports. 1016 01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:09,360 I mean, it was like going to business school 1017 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,610 with Warren Buffett. 1018 01:00:12,610 --> 01:00:14,070 [Warren] I became her best friend. 1019 01:00:14,070 --> 01:00:20,240 ♪♪ 1020 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,710 There was some justification for being worried about what 1021 01:00:23,710 --> 01:00:26,460 Nixon might do about TV stations. 1022 01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:30,880 She always felt that The Post was more vulnerable 1023 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,800 to financial troubles than it was. 1024 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,800 [Pres. Nixon] Hello. [Secretary] Mr. President, Mr. Colson. 1025 01:01:11,380 --> 01:01:19,850 ♪♪ 1026 01:01:19,850 --> 01:01:23,930 [Katharine] I lay awake many nights worrying. 1027 01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:26,640 The very existence of The Post was at stake. 1028 01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:30,900 [Don] There were threats. 1029 01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:33,980 Henry Kissinger, for one, told her to be very careful. 1030 01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:39,410 Ben Bradlee, your editor in chief, 1031 01:01:39,410 --> 01:01:41,740 has said that you have the guts of a burglar, 1032 01:01:41,740 --> 01:01:44,410 which he meant as a high compliment. 1033 01:01:44,410 --> 01:01:47,080 Weren't you frightened? 1034 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,670 When Ben said guts of the burglar, 1035 01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:53,300 it's a kind of nice expression, 1036 01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:55,590 meaning that the management of the paper 1037 01:01:55,590 --> 01:01:58,590 was going to back the editorial people up. 1038 01:01:58,590 --> 01:02:02,140 And the answer to where we scared is yes. 1039 01:02:02,140 --> 01:02:04,350 We had a great deal at stake. 1040 01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:08,690 You'd see them in the newsroom together, 1041 01:02:08,690 --> 01:02:10,900 and there was an immense closeness. 1042 01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:13,320 Not only did they work well together 1043 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,610 and with some efficiency and common purpose, 1044 01:02:16,610 --> 01:02:19,200 but she stood behind him and not only with her money, 1045 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,950 but with her institution and support. 1046 01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:27,290 Bradlee understood Katharine Graham. 1047 01:02:27,290 --> 01:02:33,540 He gave her confidence and she gave him permission. 1048 01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:39,130 She made it a point to take home the research 1049 01:02:39,130 --> 01:02:43,760 into all the illegalities of the Nixon administration, 1050 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,440 to take home the papers, to safeguard them every night, 1051 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,190 so that the research couldn't be seized 1052 01:02:52,190 --> 01:02:56,110 by any Nixonian outside forces. 1053 01:02:56,110 --> 01:02:58,940 [Bernstein] I got a call from the guard at the desk 1054 01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:01,910 saying he had a subpoena for our notes. 1055 01:03:01,910 --> 01:03:04,580 Bradlee said, "Hold on a minute. 1056 01:03:04,580 --> 01:03:06,870 Just let me get back to you." 1057 01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:10,290 And he called Katharine and he said, "Okay, 1058 01:03:10,290 --> 01:03:12,040 they're not your notes. 1059 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,840 Katherine says they're her notes. 1060 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,340 And if anybody is going to go to jail 1061 01:03:16,340 --> 01:03:18,960 for withholding their notes and not turning it over, 1062 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,130 it's going to be her." 1063 01:03:23,010 --> 01:03:24,930 [Milloy] You needed nerve. 1064 01:03:24,930 --> 01:03:27,600 You need to be able to withstand stuff. 1065 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,140 Kay Graham set the standard, a high bar, for having nerve. 1066 01:03:31,140 --> 01:03:38,690 ♪♪ 1067 01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:41,650 [Male reporter] The Watergate scandal broke wide open today. 1068 01:03:41,650 --> 01:03:43,820 The two closest men to the president, 1069 01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:46,120 H.R. Haldeman, his chief of staff, 1070 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,870 and John Ehrlichman, his chief domestic adviser, have resigned. 1071 01:03:49,870 --> 01:03:52,040 The president's White House legal counsel, 1072 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,830 John Dean, has been fired. 1073 01:03:54,830 --> 01:03:56,750 [Man] Eventually it's going to come out. 1074 01:03:56,750 --> 01:03:59,590 There's just too damn many people involved. 1075 01:03:59,590 --> 01:04:01,510 [Pres. Nixon] The whole goddamn story is going to come out. 1076 01:04:01,510 --> 01:04:02,760 The whole story is going to come out. 1077 01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:07,510 The Senate tonight voted 77 to nothing 1078 01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:09,930 to establish a select committee to investigate 1079 01:04:09,930 --> 01:04:13,600 alleged political espionage in last year's election campaign. 1080 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,110 That includes the Watergate bugging case. 1081 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,740 [Ervin] The committee will come to order. 1082 01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:26,820 John Dean, Nixon's White House counsel, 1083 01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:31,250 turned against Nixon and gave days of detailed testimony 1084 01:04:31,250 --> 01:04:34,750 about Nixon's involvement. 1085 01:04:34,750 --> 01:04:37,500 [Dean] I'm convinced that the Senate decided 1086 01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:39,670 to set up a special select committee 1087 01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:43,760 to investigate it. It's because of The Post. 1088 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,930 At one point in the conversation, 1089 01:04:45,930 --> 01:04:48,350 I recall the president telling me to keep a good list 1090 01:04:48,350 --> 01:04:50,520 of the press people giving us trouble 1091 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,430 because we'll make life difficult for them 1092 01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:56,060 after the election. 1093 01:04:56,060 --> 01:04:58,560 [Susie] Every day in front of the TV 1094 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,150 with my dad watching the Watergate hearings. 1095 01:05:01,150 --> 01:05:04,950 That's what I remember. I mean, it was fascinating. 1096 01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:07,780 [Utley] There was a surprise witness at the Watergate hearings today, 1097 01:05:07,780 --> 01:05:10,410 and he made a dramatic disclosure. 1098 01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:12,700 [Man] Are you aware of the installation 1099 01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:15,080 of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the president? 1100 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,420 ♪♪ 1101 01:05:18,420 --> 01:05:22,340 I was aware of listening devices. 1102 01:05:22,340 --> 01:05:24,880 Yes, sir. 1103 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,680 [Warren] Nixon was a very smart guy in some ways, 1104 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,640 and he was, you know, about as paranoid 1105 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:34,350 as you could be, but he self-destructed. 1106 01:05:34,350 --> 01:05:35,810 The Senate Watergate Committee learned 1107 01:05:35,810 --> 01:05:37,520 of the existence of tape recordings 1108 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,610 of President Nixon's conversations. 1109 01:05:39,610 --> 01:05:41,780 The committee immediately asked for those tapes. 1110 01:05:41,780 --> 01:05:47,320 And today it got its reply -- a formal, official "no." 1111 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,030 Things were getting worse and worse and worse. 1112 01:05:49,030 --> 01:05:52,040 And you saw that the presidency was coming apart. 1113 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,830 The Supreme Court has just ruled 1114 01:05:53,830 --> 01:05:55,750 on the tape controversy and here is Carl Stern, 1115 01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:57,040 who has that ruling. 1116 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,500 It is a unanimous decision, Doug. 1117 01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:00,210 8 to 0. 1118 01:06:00,210 --> 01:06:02,590 Justice Rehnquist took no part in the decision 1119 01:06:02,590 --> 01:06:04,340 ordering the president of the United States 1120 01:06:04,340 --> 01:06:07,590 to turn over the tapes. 1121 01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:10,720 [Katharine] We were essentially saved by the tapes. 1122 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,180 You know, if the tapes hadn't come out, 1123 01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:16,520 I don't know where we'd all be. 1124 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,100 [Mudd] The president himself admitted 1125 01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:21,730 he has lost his impeachment fight in the House. 1126 01:06:21,730 --> 01:06:23,400 [Chancellor] It looks as though President Nixon 1127 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,070 Is going to resign tonight. 1128 01:06:25,070 --> 01:06:31,070 ♪♪ 1129 01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:33,410 [Katharine] I was on vacation on Martha's Vineyard, 1130 01:06:33,410 --> 01:06:36,040 and I got on a plane and went right back to the paper 1131 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,250 because I thought I wanted to be there. 1132 01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:44,960 [applause] 1133 01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:51,430 [Woodward] The day Nixon resigned... 1134 01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:54,300 Fascinating moment. 1135 01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:56,770 His farewell to the staff, 1136 01:06:56,770 --> 01:07:01,440 his friends in the East Room of the White House. 1137 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,280 Uh, it was a psychiatric hour on live television. 1138 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,900 I remember my old man. 1139 01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,280 I think that... they would've called him 1140 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,580 sort of a... 1141 01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:18,830 a sort of little man, common man. 1142 01:07:18,830 --> 01:07:20,370 My mother was a saint. 1143 01:07:23,380 --> 01:07:26,880 She will have no books written about her. 1144 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:32,590 ♪♪ 1145 01:07:32,590 --> 01:07:34,430 But she was a saint. 1146 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,850 Now, however, we look to the future. 1147 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,860 Always remember, others may hate you, 1148 01:07:49,860 --> 01:07:55,410 but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. 1149 01:07:55,410 --> 01:07:57,740 And then you destroy yourself. 1150 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,960 He got it. 1151 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,540 Hate was the piston that drove him. 1152 01:08:09,130 --> 01:08:13,680 Nixon used the presidency 1153 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,470 as an instrument of personal revenge. 1154 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,980 And that was the poison -- hate. 1155 01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:30,280 [Katharine] Nixon hated The Post and us personally 1156 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,320 through his dying day. 1157 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,330 When he left in the helicopter, 1158 01:08:38,330 --> 01:08:41,750 the first time I heard the words "President Ford," 1159 01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:46,420 I just couldn't believe it. 1160 01:08:46,420 --> 01:08:48,800 And I really did feel relieved. 1161 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:55,760 ♪♪ 1162 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,010 [Male reporter] No other paper kept after the Watergate story 1163 01:08:58,010 --> 01:08:59,510 the way The Washington Post did. 1164 01:08:59,510 --> 01:09:01,770 It could not have happened 1165 01:09:01,770 --> 01:09:03,810 unless Mrs. Graham had wanted it. 1166 01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:09,150 [Katharine] People have occasionally said 1167 01:09:09,150 --> 01:09:11,230 that we brought down a president, 1168 01:09:11,230 --> 01:09:13,490 and I want to emphasize that did not happen. 1169 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,990 [Warren] She backed Ben Bradlee at a time 1170 01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:21,290 when politicians were opposing her, 1171 01:09:21,290 --> 01:09:23,540 other news organizations were not picking up on it. 1172 01:09:23,540 --> 01:09:26,290 The Washington Post was out there all by itself. 1173 01:09:26,290 --> 01:09:29,670 And that piece of journalism changed the world. 1174 01:09:32,260 --> 01:09:36,510 [Katharine] I didn't take any personal pleasure in this. 1175 01:09:36,510 --> 01:09:39,600 We were pleased at having our reporting vindicated, 1176 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,390 but I don't think that anybody wanted to bring him down 1177 01:09:43,390 --> 01:09:46,270 or thought that President of the United States 1178 01:09:46,270 --> 01:09:48,480 having to resign because he would be impeached 1179 01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:50,480 was a great event for the country. 1180 01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:51,650 We didn't. 1181 01:09:51,650 --> 01:10:01,700 ♪♪ 1182 01:10:01,700 --> 01:10:04,160 [Man] For her relentless pursuit of the truth 1183 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,540 and for her courage in using the media 1184 01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:09,880 to uphold the principle of the people's right to know, 1185 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,630 Katharine Graham. 1186 01:10:11,630 --> 01:10:16,220 [applause] 1187 01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:18,800 I'm proud to accept this award 1188 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,350 for everyone at The Post who contributed 1189 01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:23,600 to our Watergate coverage, especially. 1190 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,020 My husband, Philip Graham, 1191 01:10:27,020 --> 01:10:30,100 once described the job of the press 1192 01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:33,400 as providing a first rough draft of history 1193 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,530 that will never be fully completed, 1194 01:10:37,530 --> 01:10:42,120 about a world we can never completely understand. 1195 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,620 For its investigative reporting 1196 01:10:43,620 --> 01:10:45,700 of the Watergate scandal, 1197 01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:47,710 The Washington Post today won the Pulitzer Prize 1198 01:10:47,710 --> 01:10:49,540 for Distinguished Public Service. 1199 01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:51,250 That's not surprising news, 1200 01:10:51,250 --> 01:10:53,630 since The Post did better work on that story 1201 01:10:53,630 --> 01:10:56,210 than any other institution in American journalism. 1202 01:10:56,210 --> 01:10:57,800 The press in this country, 1203 01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,550 under a constitutional democracy, 1204 01:10:59,550 --> 01:11:02,050 is set up to be the critic of the government. 1205 01:11:02,050 --> 01:11:04,140 And it's very important 1206 01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:08,440 that they do that with a lot of responsibility. 1207 01:11:08,440 --> 01:11:11,270 We were proud of the part we had played. 1208 01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:13,770 The pressures on us up to that point, however, 1209 01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:17,650 when nothing to those that followed. 1210 01:11:17,650 --> 01:11:20,450 Just as I thought things had calmed down, 1211 01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:23,070 we went through a very violent pressmen strike. 1212 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,590 [Reasoner] Publication of The Washington Post 1213 01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:37,710 has been suspended because of a strike by the men 1214 01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:41,010 who run the paper's printing presses. 1215 01:11:41,010 --> 01:11:42,800 [Katharine] There was mass picketing. 1216 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,760 There were fire trucks. Smoke. Television cameras. 1217 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,560 Lights. 1218 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,900 And it was just an unbelievable scene. 1219 01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:53,980 They all saw me coming, 1220 01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:56,940 and I had to walk through the mass picket line... 1221 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,530 ...which was a little scary. 1222 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,540 [Warren] She was terrified. 1223 01:12:07,540 --> 01:12:12,660 But she was more afraid during the strike 1224 01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:15,210 that the whole place would come crashing down 1225 01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:20,170 and that what her father had bought in 1933 1226 01:12:20,170 --> 01:12:22,970 that she would be responsible for destroying. 1227 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,260 [Katharine] The only way I can describe 1228 01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:29,600 the extent of my anxiety 1229 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,060 is to say that I felt as if I were pregnant with a rock. 1230 01:12:33,060 --> 01:12:35,400 Yet, despite my inner turmoil, 1231 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,900 I had to appear calm and determined 1232 01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:40,440 and to come across as optimistic in order 1233 01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:42,820 to convey that attitude to others. 1234 01:12:46,660 --> 01:12:49,540 We announced that there would be no paper the next day 1235 01:12:49,540 --> 01:12:51,450 and had no guess as to 1236 01:12:51,450 --> 01:12:55,420 when we would be able to resume publication. 1237 01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:58,500 This is not an isolated instance here 1238 01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:00,260 The Post has created. 1239 01:13:00,260 --> 01:13:02,380 This follows a chain of activity 1240 01:13:02,380 --> 01:13:05,260 within the newspaper field in this country. 1241 01:13:05,260 --> 01:13:07,100 This is not the first place 1242 01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:09,060 where we've been forced out on the street on strike. 1243 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,440 She was not anti-labor. I mean, you know, 1244 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:17,730 there are plenty of newspaper publishers in the country 1245 01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:20,190 it was a matter of religion to break unions 1246 01:13:20,190 --> 01:13:22,110 and all that sort of thing. 1247 01:13:22,110 --> 01:13:23,740 Kay did not feel that way in the least. 1248 01:13:23,740 --> 01:13:25,780 I mean, she was working on the West Coast. 1249 01:13:25,780 --> 01:13:28,910 I mean, she -- she knew the labor leaders out there, 1250 01:13:28,910 --> 01:13:31,620 and she -- she was in no way doctrinaire 1251 01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:34,500 about being anti-union. 1252 01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:36,790 [Katharine] I cared a great deal about the company 1253 01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:41,130 and about The Post, which that struggle for its existence 1254 01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:43,210 had been part of my whole life. 1255 01:13:43,210 --> 01:13:46,010 The strikers plainly thought, 1256 01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:50,220 "If you hit Katharine Graham hard enough, she'll give up. 1257 01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:51,640 She'll give us what we want." 1258 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,850 [Katharine] Someone had previously been in touch 1259 01:13:56,850 --> 01:13:59,610 with several small, non-union suburban papers 1260 01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:03,070 about printing parts of the paper in the event of a strike. 1261 01:14:03,070 --> 01:14:06,570 Meanwhile, Roger Parkinson set to work trying to find a way 1262 01:14:06,570 --> 01:14:08,410 to get the pages from our building 1263 01:14:08,410 --> 01:14:11,660 to the outside small plants for printing. 1264 01:14:11,660 --> 01:14:13,740 The Washington Post, its presses 1265 01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:16,000 crippled in a violent strike by press operators, 1266 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,290 said today that nonetheless, 1267 01:14:18,290 --> 01:14:20,210 tomorrow morning's editions will come out. 1268 01:14:20,210 --> 01:14:23,050 The Post said out-of-town presses will be used. 1269 01:14:23,050 --> 01:14:25,840 [Katharine] Having been in a Green Beret unit in Vietnam, 1270 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,180 Roger thought of helicopters 1271 01:14:28,180 --> 01:14:32,010 and had the wit to look under "H" in the Yellow Pages, 1272 01:14:32,010 --> 01:14:33,390 where he found a company 1273 01:14:33,470 --> 01:14:35,430 willing to contract for the flights. 1274 01:14:37,140 --> 01:14:39,350 The parking lot was dismissed as being too close 1275 01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:41,440 to the picketers. 1276 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,280 The roof was chosen as being safer. 1277 01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:49,490 John Waits of production ran up the stairs to the roof 1278 01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:52,080 with the film, handing it to Roger, 1279 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,790 who in turn handed it over to the pilot. 1280 01:14:57,500 --> 01:15:00,920 We all cheered as the helicopter took off. 1281 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,380 I was on the roof watching an amazement. 1282 01:15:03,380 --> 01:15:07,720 ♪♪ 1283 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,300 And in my great excitement, realizing that this would work, 1284 01:15:11,300 --> 01:15:13,390 I hugged everyone in sight. 1285 01:15:13,390 --> 01:15:24,110 ♪♪ 1286 01:15:24,110 --> 01:15:26,320 [Mudd] The Post today put out a limited edition, 1287 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,820 using the facilities of at least six newspapers 1288 01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:31,530 within a 150-mile radius of Washington. 1289 01:15:34,330 --> 01:15:37,620 One of the purposes of a newspaper 1290 01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:40,370 is to be the conscience of the community. 1291 01:15:40,370 --> 01:15:43,880 They monitor the government. They monitor industry. 1292 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,000 They monitor the entire community. 1293 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,260 The problem we have with The Washington Post is 1294 01:15:50,260 --> 01:15:53,930 since they're everybody else's conscience, 1295 01:15:53,930 --> 01:15:58,520 they've set themselves up where no one can look at what they do. 1296 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:03,860 This is not a strike for money, it's a strike for dignity. 1297 01:16:03,860 --> 01:16:06,440 They can take their final offer and shove it. 1298 01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:08,440 We are not going back. 1299 01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:10,820 [cheers and applause] 1300 01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:12,820 [Katharine] After the overwhelming turn-down 1301 01:16:12,820 --> 01:16:15,080 of our final offer by the union, 1302 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,700 it was a question of when, not if, to announce 1303 01:16:18,700 --> 01:16:21,830 that we would start hiring replacement workers. 1304 01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:24,040 [Male reporter] For years, The Washington Post 1305 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,580 has been viewed as a bastion 1306 01:16:25,580 --> 01:16:27,800 of liberalism among American newspapers. 1307 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,130 But now The Post is finding itself accused of union busting 1308 01:16:31,130 --> 01:16:33,340 by some of its liberal backers. 1309 01:16:33,340 --> 01:16:37,220 I think she did way more than many other publishers 1310 01:16:37,220 --> 01:16:39,930 would have to try to settle this, 1311 01:16:39,930 --> 01:16:42,520 but she wasn't going to hire back the people who had, 1312 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,900 uh, assaulted somebody, 1313 01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:48,520 the press room superintendent, and set fire to the building. 1314 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,360 [chanting "Boycott The Post!"] 1315 01:16:59,450 --> 01:17:01,500 [Don] In that march, 1316 01:17:01,500 --> 01:17:03,920 one of the leaders of the Press Men's Union 1317 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:10,340 carried a sign that said, "Phil shot the wrong Graham," 1318 01:17:10,340 --> 01:17:13,130 meaning he should have shot my mother. 1319 01:17:16,510 --> 01:17:18,640 Indescribable. 1320 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,680 I mean, I knew the guy who was carrying that sign, 1321 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,350 and so did she. 1322 01:17:24,350 --> 01:17:27,810 And in that same march, 1323 01:17:27,810 --> 01:17:32,740 the burning of an effigy of Katharine Graham, 1324 01:17:32,740 --> 01:17:34,530 knowing that she was in the building watching. 1325 01:17:34,530 --> 01:17:39,370 ♪♪ 1326 01:17:39,370 --> 01:17:43,750 It -- It certainly made it easy to understand, uh, 1327 01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:45,540 what was at stake. 1328 01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:52,130 ♪♪ 1329 01:17:52,130 --> 01:17:56,050 [Warren] She empathized enormously with the families 1330 01:17:56,050 --> 01:17:58,140 of the strikers and everything. 1331 01:17:58,140 --> 01:18:03,560 But with Kay, the newspaper totally came first. 1332 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,560 I mean, that was a sacred trust. 1333 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:10,770 [Remnick] There's something profound here about the Graham family 1334 01:18:10,770 --> 01:18:14,400 and The Washington Post. Their bond with it is deep. 1335 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,530 And think what you will about the strike, 1336 01:18:16,530 --> 01:18:18,860 it's very complicated. 1337 01:18:18,860 --> 01:18:22,450 And you can easily be critical of the ownership of the paper 1338 01:18:22,450 --> 01:18:27,080 in this -- in this really ugly labor dispute. 1339 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:28,620 But Katharine Graham was terrified of losing the paper, 1340 01:18:28,620 --> 01:18:29,920 and she could have. 1341 01:18:32,710 --> 01:18:34,710 [Katharine] By January 6th, 1342 01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:37,930 we had hired 107 people as permanent replacements 1343 01:18:37,930 --> 01:18:41,510 for the pressroom. 1344 01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:44,600 With the pressmen refusing The Post's final contract offer 1345 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,810 and with non-union workers inside the plant 1346 01:18:46,810 --> 01:18:49,100 doing the pressmen's work, 1347 01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:52,610 this already bitter strike is expected to become even more so. 1348 01:18:56,530 --> 01:18:58,570 Tonight in Washington, the world premiere 1349 01:18:58,570 --> 01:19:00,700 of All the President's Men. 1350 01:19:00,700 --> 01:19:02,660 [Male reporter] Instead of searchlights, 1351 01:19:02,660 --> 01:19:03,700 there were pickets outside marching within view 1352 01:19:03,700 --> 01:19:06,450 of the Watergate a block away. 1353 01:19:06,450 --> 01:19:08,410 The protesters are pressmen on strike 1354 01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:10,420 against The Washington Post. 1355 01:19:10,420 --> 01:19:11,960 [Male reporter 2] There was one celebrity moment 1356 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,750 in the finest tradition of a Hollywood opening, 1357 01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:15,960 when the stars came through. 1358 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,800 Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman, 1359 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,930 trailed by their real-life counterparts, 1360 01:19:19,930 --> 01:19:22,800 The Washington Post's Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, 1361 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,560 who wanted to see how Hollywood would show them at work. 1362 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,600 I've never been to a Hollywood premiere either. 1363 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,400 As one reviewer noted, All The President's Men 1364 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,900 is the most eagerly awaited motion picture since Jaws. 1365 01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:36,940 [Don] Robert Redford plays Woodward 1366 01:19:36,940 --> 01:19:39,650 and Dustin Hoffman plays Carl Bernstein. 1367 01:19:39,650 --> 01:19:42,660 And there is no Katharine Graham character 1368 01:19:42,660 --> 01:19:43,660 in that movie. 1369 01:19:43,660 --> 01:19:46,660 And what's odd about that 1370 01:19:46,660 --> 01:19:49,460 was that the menace of Watergate 1371 01:19:49,460 --> 01:19:51,750 wasn't to Ben Bradlee, 1372 01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:54,460 wasn't to Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. 1373 01:19:54,460 --> 01:19:57,710 It was, uniquely, to Kay Graham. 1374 01:19:59,670 --> 01:20:01,550 [Man] You tell your publisher, tell Katie Graham 1375 01:20:01,550 --> 01:20:03,090 she's gonna get her tit caught in a big wringer 1376 01:20:03,090 --> 01:20:05,510 if that's published. 1377 01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:08,980 All the President's Men was important as a movie 1378 01:20:08,980 --> 01:20:12,020 in many ways, because it helped to expose 1379 01:20:12,020 --> 01:20:14,940 what the Nixon administration had been doing. 1380 01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:17,070 But Kay actually had been the one person 1381 01:20:17,070 --> 01:20:19,990 who was the most key to this process 1382 01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:25,450 and had the most courage and took the most punishment. 1383 01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:28,870 [Weymouth] I thought it was very unfair that she got left out. 1384 01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:31,460 One of the actors came and broke the news to her that, 1385 01:20:31,460 --> 01:20:33,670 "Gee, you know, you took all the risks, 1386 01:20:33,670 --> 01:20:35,250 but you're not going to be in the movie." 1387 01:20:35,250 --> 01:20:37,800 But she didn't take it too well. Secretly. Privately. 1388 01:20:44,890 --> 01:20:46,430 [Katharine] By the 1st of June, 1389 01:20:46,430 --> 01:20:48,640 the strike was essentially over. 1390 01:20:52,940 --> 01:20:55,940 In many ways, the strike broke my heart. 1391 01:20:55,940 --> 01:20:59,730 It was certainly the toughest work situation I'd ever faced. 1392 01:21:02,570 --> 01:21:06,530 My mother rarely did things tactfully or in a low-key way. 1393 01:21:06,530 --> 01:21:10,450 She loved and thrived on strident confrontations. 1394 01:21:10,450 --> 01:21:12,660 Perhaps for that reason, 1395 01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:14,830 I always ran the other way when it came to a showdown. 1396 01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:39,650 ♪♪ 1397 01:21:39,650 --> 01:21:42,860 Left alone, no matter at what age or under what circumstance, 1398 01:21:42,860 --> 01:21:45,780 you have to remake your life. 1399 01:21:45,780 --> 01:21:48,700 On January 10, 1979, 1400 01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:52,870 I turned over the title of publisher of The Post to Don. 1401 01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:56,460 While I had always known Don would one day become publisher, 1402 01:21:56,460 --> 01:21:59,380 what I hadn't foreseen is that it would be so hard 1403 01:21:59,380 --> 01:22:01,460 for me to give it up. 1404 01:22:01,460 --> 01:22:04,670 Publisher of The Post is a title 1405 01:22:04,670 --> 01:22:06,340 I knew I would miss. 1406 01:22:06,340 --> 01:22:09,970 In configuring a new way of life, 1407 01:22:09,970 --> 01:22:11,430 I tried to understand what 1408 01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:13,720 I needed to retain from my old one. 1409 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:21,400 ♪♪ 1410 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,280 Reorganizing my working life was a necessity, 1411 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:29,820 as was finding a new kind of balance. 1412 01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:31,830 [Steinem] Of all the ways 1413 01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:34,450 that Kay modeled what journalism should be, 1414 01:22:34,450 --> 01:22:37,370 the most intimate was writing her own book. 1415 01:22:39,290 --> 01:22:41,340 [Russert] She has now written a remarkable book, 1416 01:22:41,340 --> 01:22:43,920 Personal History, by Katharine Graham, and she's here tonight. 1417 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,470 It is an amazing book 1418 01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:49,680 because you hear your voice throughout it. 1419 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,850 It was like an audio cassette for me to read. 1420 01:22:51,850 --> 01:22:54,100 I could hear Kay Graham. 1421 01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:56,310 [Warren] She spent five years writing her book 1422 01:22:56,310 --> 01:23:00,190 and she wanted it accurate. 1423 01:23:00,190 --> 01:23:03,110 And she sent me the galleys, and I just called her up and I said, 1424 01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:05,440 "You know, you wrote the book I hoped you'd write." 1425 01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:08,860 I wanted to tell the story of the development of the paper 1426 01:23:08,860 --> 01:23:12,530 and the company, and I wanted to tell a story of people, 1427 01:23:12,530 --> 01:23:14,040 three people who were very important to me, 1428 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,080 my parents and Phil Graham. 1429 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,710 But you knew in reliving it, pain would occur. 1430 01:23:19,710 --> 01:23:23,420 Well, I knew that there were tough sides to the story, 1431 01:23:23,420 --> 01:23:24,710 as there are in anybody's story. 1432 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,630 [Susie] I was staying at her house, 1433 01:23:29,630 --> 01:23:34,470 and she had told me that she was reading for books on tape, 1434 01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:38,480 and that she'd gotten to the part where Phil shot himself, 1435 01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,020 and she said, "I've read it and reread it 100 times in my head 1436 01:23:42,020 --> 01:23:44,270 as we've been working on the book." 1437 01:23:44,270 --> 01:23:46,900 But she said, "I had never read it out loud till today," 1438 01:23:46,900 --> 01:23:48,990 and she said, "I couldn't get the words out of my mouth 1439 01:23:48,990 --> 01:23:50,990 for the first few times. 1440 01:23:50,990 --> 01:23:51,990 It was so hard." 1441 01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:59,500 ♪♪ 1442 01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:03,290 [Katharine] On August 3rd, we drove to the farm. 1443 01:24:03,290 --> 01:24:05,590 After a short while, 1444 01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:07,460 Phil got up saying he wanted to lie down in a separate bedroom 1445 01:24:07,460 --> 01:24:09,420 he sometimes used. 1446 01:24:09,420 --> 01:24:10,880 Only a few minutes later, 1447 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,050 there was the ear-splitting noise 1448 01:24:12,050 --> 01:24:14,930 of a gun going off indoors. 1449 01:24:14,930 --> 01:24:16,680 I bolted out of my room 1450 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,560 and ran around in a frenzy looking for him. 1451 01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,520 When I opened the door to a downstairs bathroom, 1452 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,980 I found him. 1453 01:24:24,980 --> 01:24:27,820 It was so profoundly shocking and traumatizing. 1454 01:24:27,820 --> 01:24:29,690 He was so obviously dead 1455 01:24:29,690 --> 01:24:32,280 and the wounds so ghastly to look at that 1456 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,660 that I just ran into the next room 1457 01:24:33,660 --> 01:24:35,990 and buried my head in my hands, 1458 01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:38,950 trying to absorb that this had really happened. 1459 01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:47,590 ♪♪ 1460 01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:49,840 Most of our life together was wonderful, 1461 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,470 and he was wonderful, 1462 01:24:51,470 --> 01:24:54,220 and I didn't want the bad part at the end 1463 01:24:54,220 --> 01:24:58,720 to overshadow the very, very good part. 1464 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,980 One of the reasons I wrote this book was to say 1465 01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:06,520 how great he was, and my parents were each in their own way. 1466 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,820 I thought there were three people 1467 01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:12,150 who deserved to be remembered and to be written about. 1468 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,040 This was The Washington Post 10 years ago today. 1469 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,540 The people who put it together were reporters, not historians. 1470 01:25:22,540 --> 01:25:24,210 They put down the news of the day -- 1471 01:25:24,210 --> 01:25:27,500 the important things, the routine things, 1472 01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:29,210 and even the trivia. 1473 01:25:29,210 --> 01:25:33,920 But 10 years has turned this issue into a history book. 1474 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,340 [Murrow] Mrs. Meyer, tell me, do you have anything 1475 01:25:35,340 --> 01:25:37,340 to do with running the paper? 1476 01:25:37,340 --> 01:25:39,430 Running the paper? Yes. 1477 01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:41,680 Certainly not. I'd be shot at sunrise 1478 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,350 if I interfered with The Post. 1479 01:25:44,350 --> 01:25:48,520 Mrs. Meyer’s a contributor to the paper, she doesn’t run it. 1480 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,400 [laughter] 1481 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,530 [Katharine] My father was so shy at expressing emotion, 1482 01:25:53,530 --> 01:25:55,530 but he somehow conveyed his belief in me 1483 01:25:55,530 --> 01:25:57,780 without ever articulating it. 1484 01:25:57,780 --> 01:26:02,120 And that was the single most sustaining thing in my life. 1485 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:06,880 That was what saved me. 1486 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,210 [Putney] There were times when, 1487 01:26:08,210 --> 01:26:11,300 as a young woman, you needed support 1488 01:26:11,300 --> 01:26:13,760 and you found your mother to be competitive? 1489 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,340 Well, she would tend to diminish whatever you, uh... 1490 01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:19,970 [laughter] 1491 01:26:19,970 --> 01:26:21,890 And it was a little bit difficult. 1492 01:26:21,890 --> 01:26:23,180 It made you a little bit unsure of yourself. 1493 01:26:23,180 --> 01:26:24,390 That's true. 1494 01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:27,850 But never mind. I got over it. 1495 01:26:27,850 --> 01:26:29,810 I mean, I always think that there's a statute of limitation 1496 01:26:29,810 --> 01:26:32,780 on how long you can blame your parents for everything. 1497 01:26:32,780 --> 01:26:36,070 [laughter and applause] 1498 01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:40,490 I guess I may have come to that conclusion as a parent. 1499 01:26:40,490 --> 01:26:42,120 [laughter] 1500 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,120 For people who know Kay's story, 1501 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:51,130 she is a touchstone for progress, for revolution, 1502 01:26:51,130 --> 01:26:53,050 for the future, 1503 01:26:53,050 --> 01:26:57,130 because she was so devoted to principle, 1504 01:26:57,130 --> 01:27:02,010 even when it was most difficult for her as a shy person 1505 01:27:02,010 --> 01:27:06,180 to put herself into the leadership. 1506 01:27:10,900 --> 01:27:14,400 You know what my husband said about the news? 1507 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,740 He called it the first rough draft of history. 1508 01:27:17,740 --> 01:27:20,240 That's good, isn't it? 1509 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,530 That's the story of many, many, many women, 1510 01:27:22,530 --> 01:27:24,580 not just of her generation, 1511 01:27:24,580 --> 01:27:28,420 but of women now who emerge into leadership roles 1512 01:27:28,420 --> 01:27:33,540 and still suffer the same kinds of crippling curbs 1513 01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:36,050 on their ability to step forward, 1514 01:27:36,050 --> 01:27:40,340 to be aggressive, to be -- to take risks, to lead. 1515 01:27:42,850 --> 01:27:44,350 [Remnick] When it came to the Pentagon Papers, 1516 01:27:44,350 --> 01:27:46,270 when it came to Watergate, 1517 01:27:46,270 --> 01:27:47,640 she did the right thing. 1518 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,270 She did the right thing. 1519 01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:52,060 And that's the thing you knew most vividly. 1520 01:27:52,060 --> 01:27:54,770 It was not just Watergate and the Pentagon Papers, 1521 01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:56,780 but she did a great job running the company. 1522 01:27:56,780 --> 01:27:58,700 She absolutely proved 1523 01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:00,820 that a woman can run a major corporation, 1524 01:28:00,820 --> 01:28:03,950 and that was a great thing to prove. 1525 01:28:03,950 --> 01:28:05,950 [Katharine] By the late 1980s, 1526 01:28:05,950 --> 01:28:09,500 The Washington Post Company was clearly a success. 1527 01:28:09,500 --> 01:28:13,500 The stock had skyrocketed beyond my wildest dreams, 1528 01:28:13,500 --> 01:28:16,590 reaching $300 per share. 1529 01:28:16,590 --> 01:28:23,010 Amazing to me since we had started at $6.50. 1530 01:28:23,010 --> 01:28:25,970 It's really hard to imagine the time 1531 01:28:25,970 --> 01:28:29,100 when there were really no women in the room. 1532 01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:31,850 I mean, it was unbelievable in her day. 1533 01:28:31,850 --> 01:28:33,770 Impossible. 1534 01:28:33,770 --> 01:28:38,650 You know, so I think she really broke the ceiling. 1535 01:28:38,650 --> 01:28:40,700 [Katharine] Looking back on it, of course, 1536 01:28:40,700 --> 01:28:43,570 I realized that much of how I was treated 1537 01:28:43,570 --> 01:28:45,820 was a factor of my being a woman. 1538 01:28:45,820 --> 01:28:48,200 Because people are simply not used to a woman 1539 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,040 as the chief executive officer of a company. 1540 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,420 [Povich] She might have appreciated the women's movement 1541 01:28:55,420 --> 01:28:58,710 for what it did for women 1542 01:28:58,710 --> 01:29:03,380 and the consciousness she may have gained personally, 1543 01:29:03,380 --> 01:29:05,260 but she wasn't a feminist. 1544 01:29:05,260 --> 01:29:10,430 She was a strong business leader with a moral compass. 1545 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,150 [Katharine] I don't see myself as being a model, 1546 01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:18,440 but I think I helped younger women. 1547 01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:20,610 I hung in for 30 years, 1548 01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:26,070 and therefore they saw a woman who was the head of a company, 1549 01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:28,740 and they knew that that could happen. 1550 01:29:28,740 --> 01:29:31,620 And I think that to that extent, 1551 01:29:31,620 --> 01:29:35,330 I played the role model to them, 1552 01:29:35,330 --> 01:29:37,920 and that gave me great pleasure and satisfaction 1553 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,670 when I realized that I mattered to younger women. 1554 01:29:41,670 --> 01:30:17,460 ♪♪ 1555 01:30:20,380 --> 01:31:52,300 ♪♪